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Amsterhammer

Amsterhammer

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Are you ****ing kidding me?

She ****ed over the miners, and destroyed countless communities. Yes the mines were struggling, but she destroyed them.

She was part of the biggest police coverup of all time, in the form of the Hillsborough disaster, something that only 25 years on has been rectified.

She sold off an entire country worth of council housing, leaving millions of people forced into unaffordable rent through private housing associations and landlords.

She persecuted and harrassed through various bills and overbearing police tactics the lives of any travellers, or gypsies who didnt want to conform to the normal way of life. Try watching this> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3YtmBD_thM or this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqE3SqSpT50

She privatized the energy providers, leaving us in a position now where most normal people cannot afford the ever mounting fuel costs despite the energy companies making millions of pounds in profit. Im talking fundemental things like Gas, Water, Electric, all privatized, and ****ed over by Thatcher. Millions of people in the uk now live in "fuel poverty"

She ****ed over school meals, no more free milk to children, and outsourced school meals to external companies meaning that within a matter of a year healthy school dinners were replaced with burgers, chips, and junk food. Something that 30 years on we are still trying to fix. No co-incidence the rise in obesity in the 90's

She oversaw 2, yes 2 recessions, including some of the worst rioting ever seen in the UK.. this, coupled with the minors strike and beanfield, 4 occasions in just ten years there was violence on our streets under her fascist regime.


When she came to power, the richest 50% of people accounted for 90% of the wealth. In just ten years, she left us with the richest 10% of people owning 90% of the wealth.

Scrapped the GLC which ****ed London over for coming on 15 years until we finally got Livingstone back.

Raised taxes through the roof, vat went up 10%, and did she put the money into the NHS, Schools, Welfare.. **** no, it went into the civil service..

The list is endless.

She destroyed this country, entire communities have still not recovered from the chaos she created, nutrition is still recovering, fuel poverty, the hillsborough scandal only just being uncovered.

The woman was a racist, homephobic, anti immigration, anti working classes, *****. Ask anyone over thirty, any of Thatchers children and you will find 1 in 50 support her. The entire country is celebrating her death.

As an Australian, seriously what would you know.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-BZIWSI5UQ

She destroyed this country, and we are still recovering financially and socially from her ****ing mess.
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Right on, dude! So spot on it's worth quoting in its entirety.

Netserk said:
:banana man:
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wtf is this supposed to mean?
 
Amsterhammer

Amsterhammer

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Echoes said:
She was progressive. Left-wing....
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This is either a pointless troll, or evidence why any political opinion you express can not be taken seriously.

Being against gun control doesn't help, either.
 
The Principal Sheep

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An old lady has died and to that I cannot celebrate, I will only say that it is regrettable that the damage her policies have caused will outlive her.
 
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Put it this way, if it was the 80's now, the UN would be getting involved, the world would be putting sanctions in place, and the Americans would be considering invading to save us from a ruthless dictator.
 
gooner

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It can't be left without mentioning the hunger strike and her role in all this which further galvanised the republican movement to violence means due to her failure to recognise any political prisoner status to them which led to 10 deaths as a result. Seamus Mallon(SDLP) said we still fell the effects of that today and she alienated the Nationalist community in the process and drove moderate ones to more extremist ways. She may of signed the Anglo-Irish Agreement with Garrett Fitzgerald which gave the South a greater say in the North but it has to be noted this is something she admitted regretting afterwards. Even though I didn't agree with the methods of republicanism, I did agree with their aim of a unified Ireland(a justified and legit aim IMO) but only through political means. But Thatcher's failure to acknowledge the history of the situation in the North and her policy of shooting down Nationalist opinion only further added to the troubles. She never really addressed the situation in a balanced way which compared differently to Tony Blair it has to be said. Through the Good Friday Agreement which he along with Bertie Ahern helped achieve, it acknowledged the right of the Northern Irish people to have the right to choose to remain a part of the Union or be a part of a unified Ireland. Under Thatcher this wouldn't of been even remotely possible as she was vehemently in favour of the Union staying through her limited mindset in all this.
 
Caruut

Caruut

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Echoes said:
She was progressive. Left-wing. There is no dichotomy between economic and cultural liberalism. I tried to explain that to ACF the other day but he did not understand. I guess Christopher Lasch explains that better than I possibly can.
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To say that she was "left-wing" is absurd. Left and right are, as I will explain later in the post, relative. One can argue that there is no dichotomy and in some senses this is true, but we create the dichotomy because it can be useful to break up things to think about them in different ways. I for one do not see why someone's views on what is acceptable between private individuals should necessarily mean they should hold certain views on the level of wealth redistribution and provision of public goods that a society takes.

Personally I think "economic freedom" has two very distinct meanings. The freedom to spend your money and the freedom to have enough money to meaningfully exist. The two frequently come into conflict with each other, but neither has much to do with what I think about many social issues.

Opening up the World to free-market is as progressive as they get.
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That all depends on why you do it. In my opinion Thatcher did what she did in order to preserve existing power structures in the world and the UK. By opening up the world to market forces you create socio-economic Darwinism. On a world scale, the largest countries keep their comparative advantage and are able to exploit economically inferior countries who struggle to industrialise in a purely market-based system.

On an individual scale, within societies, you see the same sort of effect. The children of the wealthiest receive the finest education, the best contacts and much more. Sure, some float to the top and some drop down to the bottom, but the general trend is undoubtedly one of conserving social class.

It might be a "liberal" policy, but when the resources to behave within a free system are influenced by the time before it was free and individuals have the power to distort that system, it can be conservative. It is my view that these policies were adopted to do aid social mobility but to destroy it.

Adam Smith was considered a left-winger in his days...
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Indeed. Yet what Adam Smith was opposed to would have been considered even more right wing these days. "Left" and "right" are not absolutes, but are specific and relative to a time and place. We only have to compare European and American politics to see this starkly illustrated. Obama would be classed as a moderate conservative in Europe.
 
Semper Fidelis

Semper Fidelis

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LaFlorecita said:
I didn't even know her :D well I heard her name before but thought she was an actress :eek: sounds like she was a *****
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Well if these folks here say so then it must be true.

They know everything there is to know about M.Thatcher it appears from the past posts.

It is even good to wish her to hell and celebrate her death. Don't let this good bargain pass anyone by,,, you never know when you get to dance on someone's grave again before we ourselves take a dirt nap. Party on. :eek:
 
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auscyclefan94 said:
Sad how bitter some of you people really are. I don't why I post on here sometimes.
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That might be because some of us are a little better informed than you.

She presided over a massive growth of wealth inequality in the UK. The rich got incredibly rich. Everyone else paid for it.

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luckyboy

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jesus christ that OP was good for a laugh

good riddance


"She created today's housing crisis. She created the banking crisis. And she created the benefits crisis. It was her government that started putting people on incapacity benefit rather than register them as unemployed because the Britain she inherited was broadly full employment. She decided when she wrote off our manufacturing industry that she could live with two or three million unemployed, and the benefits bill, the legacy of that, we are struggling with today. In actual fact, every real problem we face today is the legacy of the fact that she was fundamentally wrong." - Ken Livingstone
 
Zam_Olyas

Zam_Olyas

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Glenn_Wilson said:
Well if these folks here say so then it must be true.

They know everything there is to know about M.Thatcher it appears from the past posts.

It is even good to wish her to hell and celebrate her death. Don't let this good bargain pass anyone by,,, you never know when you get to dance on someone's grave again before we ourselves take a dirt nap. Party on. :eek:
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FWIW i dont celebrate her death.
 
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ANCrider

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Glenn_Wilson said:
Well if these folks here say so then it must be true.

They know everything there is to know about M.Thatcher it appears from the past posts.

It is even good to wish her to hell and celebrate her death. Don't let this good bargain pass anyone by,,, you never know when you get to dance on someone's grave again before we ourselves take a dirt nap. Party on. :eek:
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Let's let the amazing Frankie Boyle (you aren't allowed comedians like him in the US ;) ) have the last word...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmmomV-ax-s
 
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del1962

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TheGame said:
Put it this way, if it was the 80's now, the UN would be getting involved, the world would be putting sanctions in place, and the Americans would be considering invading to save us from a ruthless dictator.
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I always voted against her, was glad when she and later the tories where kicked out, disagreed with many of her policies but this post is ridiculous.

I have finally thought of one good thing she did, and that was to get the UK its rebate from the EU.
 
Caruut

Caruut

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Froome19 said:
Nah don't know enough to have a valid opinion.
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I would say that she is such an important part of the recent history of the UK that you should learn enough to have a valid opinion, but respect to you for being upfront and not diving in anyway.
 
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