The Larry H. Miller Tour of Utah 2014, 4-10 of August (2.1)

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roundabout said:
They kept on dangling within sight of the leaders for a long time and he was content to sit behind Anacona despite being the fastest sprinter of the group.

So rolleyes right back at you.

Tactic fail by Kelderman

Uhh no. :rolleyes:
Het attacked with 9km to go. Dropped Anacona. But then Danielson panicked and went full. It took them 6km to catch Kelderman, but that was because Kelderman sat up because the gap was only between 10/15s the entire time Danielson kept riding.

As soon as Danielson caught him Anacona started riding and there was really nothing more to do as to wait and gamble for the sprint. Because Kelderman exerted a lot of energy closing 2 minutes to the group on the front riding solo all the time. And as soon as he went Danielson would have probably reacted immediately this time anyway. :rolleyes:

So right back at you. Fail by yourself.
 
Who said anything about attacking?

Just making better pace would have been enough. Didn't you yourself excuse Keldermans riding on the front at point by saying that he needs to catch the break?

Talk about twisting yourself into a pretzel.

Your boy failed. Try getting over it instead of blaming Danielson and attacking me.
 
He attacked and made almost 99% of the pace when he was away with Anacona. If he didn't do that they'd just wait for Garmin or other teams to make pace and never catch the break (and have a chance of winning)
If he would made pace after Danielson caught him others would just sprint behind his back in the final km. :rolleyes:

If anyone here has the tactical sense of a potato it's you.
 
Dekker_Tifosi said:
No, from much much further back. Nothing to do with silly celebrations, I don't even care about those.

Talking about his interviews, reactions, etc. I genuinely dislike him for that

it really doesnt take much for some of you guys to genuinely dislike people
 
Netserk said:
How was it tactically smart to sit up??? Why not just keep going?

With Danielson at just 100 meters behind going at the same speed. Yes that would have been a genius move. So Horner can jump and win. :rolleyes:

If he had 25/30s he should always keep going. But with 10/15s constantly for 5km, it would have been like leading out Kittel in a sprint :rolleyes:
 
Moose McKnuckles said:
I'll be up there...wait do you live in Austin or Salt Lake City?

Sorry, Moose. Just saw this. I was planning to do the ride, but then Friday turned into quite a serious night of Ulle-style "training" and decided I'd just sit it out. And then I did it anyway with a real real bad hangover as my only company. It hurt.

Made some friends, though. Rode back down to Tanner's Flat to watch the race and slotted in with the people from Backcountry and Competitive Cyclist. Good group! I should note that the same group gave me a drink on the way up, and I grabbed it without registering that it was... a PBR. After I realized what I had, I took a couple of long drinks and got beer all over myself for the final ~3km. ;) ;)

It was wild to see the pros in action. For some reason, the one who really got me was Basso. Where did you watch?

Oh and PS: I lived in Austin years ago, spent time in Boise, and am now back in SLC. Updating forum profile information is so passé. :p
 
Maaaaaaaarten said:
The rabofail is starting to catch up with Kelderman aready. He's content with finishing more than a minute on a MTF behind Ben Hermans and an awkward American baldy old enough to be his father. :(

This gives me flashbacks to Gesink and Mollema being content after they wheelsucked and struggled their way to an anonymous top 10 in a mediocre field. I thought Kelderman was different. :eek:

Wonder if you still think this after today.
Oh well. This is the problem in Holland anyway. As soon as somebody has done some good performances... if he's not going better all the time he sucks, has a bad mentality, his interviews are wrong and he should retire.

So destructive
 
Dekker_Tifosi said:
Wonder if you still think this after today.
Oh well. This is the problem in Holland anyway. As soon as somebody has done some good performances... if he's not going better all the time he sucks, has a bad mentality, his interviews are wrong and he should retire.

So destructive

Do you live in Holland or do you just say Holland instead of Netherlands? A bit off topic but I am interested, since I take it you are from the Netherlands(?).
 
darwin553 said:
Go Cadel!! :D



This win doesn't make you look good after your recent comments, does it? :rolleyes:

Ah yes the Cadel wins which are infrequent these days really polarize opinions as usual and he is still copping it because of what happened in the past. People like to hold onto their petty grudges. Nice to see him get a win. I hope he and Sanchez can do well in the Vuelta. Top 10 and a stage win would be a good result for either of them. Hopefully better. The Vuelta field is not short of talent. Should be a good race I hope, like the last two editions.
 
'Crazy day'
Sports Director Erik Dekker said that he was impressed with the tactics of BMC Racing that led to its star Cadel Evans winning the 172.6-kilometre stage. He added that Garmin nearly lost Danielson's lead by not reacting soon enough.

"It was a crazy day with four BMC riders in the move with Cadel," Dekker said. "Garmin managed well even if the team was on the limit. We didn't help Garmin because Wilco wasn't at 100% at first, but given what we saw afterwards, maybe we could've done it differently!"

Dekker pointed out that the only bad moment was when Belkin's Martijn Tusveld abandoned the race with stomach problems.
 
A special win for Evans.

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on a day with lots of race action.

More pics: http://www.steephill.tv/2014/tour-of-utah/photos/stage-06/

GC after stage 6.
1(1) DANIELSON ThomasGarmin Sharp8 27:07:07
2(2) HORNER ChrisLampre-Merida 0:57
3(3) HERMANS BenBMC Racing Team 1:26
4(4) ANACONA GOMEZ WinnerLampre-Merida 1:52
5(5) KELDERMAN WilcoBelkin-Pro Cycling Team 2:00
6(9) EVANS CadelBMC Racing Team 2:29
7(8) JONES CarterOptum p/b Kelly Benefit Strategies 2:52
8(6) DINIZ CORREIA AlexFunvic - Pindamonhangaba 3:28
9(7) BENNETT GeorgeCannondale 3:40
10(11) BUSCHE MatthewTrek Factory Racing 4:10

Stage 7:
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Lampre gotta play aggressive with both Anacona and Horner in good form.
Don't think we will have many support riders half way up Empire pass, but Tommy D is very strong. He can handle just about everything on his own here.

Oh and Voigt will have a go again, again and again.
 
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Dekker_Tifosi said:
He attacked and made almost 99% of the pace when he was away with Anacona. If he didn't do that they'd just wait for Garmin or other teams to make pace and never catch the break (and have a chance of winning)
If he would made pace after Danielson caught him others would just sprint behind his back in the final km. :rolleyes:

If anyone here has the tactical sense of a potato it's you.

look at you, you are 28m still fitghing about a menaingless stage in a meaningless race about a meaningless dutch rider. the same stuff you were doing on forums 15 years ago. :rolleyes:
 
congrats to cadel. no country for old men....except utah :p

i will download the stage today.
the sponsors should definitely drop colorado and hype this race. tour of utah, for me one of the best races of the world to be honest. it should get international broadcast at least.
today i hope for papy or alex diniz victory
 
Moose McKnuckles said:
He had 2:30 on the climb with 10k to go apparently, before Lampre took over and started chopping down the lead.

I know they had a couple minutes at least at Guardsman Pass, when they came by.

The gap went down when Kelderman went with Anacona in his wheel, and later when Danielson went.
When Danielson caught up with Kelderman he had no more reason to chase and then Lampre took over but the gap was already down to 30s there, Anacona got it down to like 10-15 sec but he couldnt close the gap. So it was not really Lampre who did the chopping.
 
roundabout said:
He gained a lot of time in the easy last km. Obviously there was enough in the tank and he miscalculated.

But I am the idiot.

Lol. Your fanboyism is getting embarrassing.
The mistake he made was not attacking earlier off Anacona's wheel in the final kms. Other than that he rode tactically strong.

And forgive Dekker_T his disappointment ;)
 
Euser supports Jens decision to retire :D

“He deserved every bit of the attention he got today. He rode well,” Euser said. “You know, the Trek guys sat on all day, so did Jens. I’ve lost all respect for those guys. Jens was cursing at me up Emigration Canyon; he’s lost respect for the sport. And guys like Joey Rosskopf have all the respect in the world for it. And he’s going to go a long ways. It’s time for the Jenses of the world to leave, and it’s time for the Joeys of the world to step up.”
Read more at http://velonews.competitor.com/2014...ond-time-tour-utah_340519#bIDS737PEUHuL5ki.99
 
It doesn't seem the descent will make a big difference here.
http://youtu.be/-jjMhJwY7-k
And Horner is not Nibali or Valverde. Evans for the win again? :D

Dazed and Confused said:
Stage 7:
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Lampre gotta play aggressive with both Anacona and Horner in good form.
Don't think we will have many support riders half way up Empire pass, but Tommy D is very strong. He can handle just about everything on his own here.

Oh and Voigt will have a go again, again and again.