The latest Astana affair

[python]

tampering provision was introduced long long ago. there are many ways to tamper including swapping urines using wazinators catheters etc

the key in this issue - the epo testing - is the rider will be sanctioned if the traces of masking chemicals are detected in his body fluids. the chemicals are listed as banned substances in some cases and as prohibited methods in other cases. i'm pretty sure epo masking by the detergent powers is detectable nowadays and the test for it would be administered before analyzing epo in that sample.

 

[Mellow Velo]

I'm curious, is there any reason you couldn't ban people for using a masking agent, that is having no natural epo in the samples? That would cut out that loophole pretty effeiciently. Assuming it can't happen by accident of cause.

Stefano Garzelli got booted out of the 2002 Giro and served a 6 month ban, (I think) for just that.
From Wiki:

However, Garzelli was caught in the 2002 doping scandal in the Giro d'Italia, and was forced out of the race. Many believe that the circumstances of his suspension prompted the Mapei boss Giorgio Squinzi to terminate his sponsorship of the team at the end of the year. "The exclusion of Garzelli, who tested positive for a masking agent, wasn't a normal thing. At the start nothing was found. Later, as soon as he won a stage, a forbidden substance came out all of a sudden. That's bizarre," said Squinzi in an interview.

Yes, Lance with his "baby" clean samples. Be interested in reading a link or two on that, again.
What of Di Luca and the 2007 Zoncolan?
Got him dubbed as "Hormone Boy", by a forum wag, elsewhere. Wasn't wrong, either.

http://www.velonews.com/article/75642

"hormones of a child" a la Lance.

 

[Cerberus]

Ok, thanks for the replies, I did think it was odd if you couldn't penalize riders for using masking, but I guess the technology and legal framework has to be in place.

 

[buckwheat]

My apologies to you LA haters. The sentence I wrote was "I don't go here often because the I find revolting the pathetic drivel that most of the excellence haters on this forum spew". That was the way it looked to me when I wrote it, but "the" got misplaced somehow when I attempted to add emphasis.

The little tidbit you add to all of your posts.
"The science of Lance Armstrong is pharmacology" is a perfect example of what I was referring to.

I am surprised a properly moderated forum lets you and the rest of the haters get away with this.

This is hilarious stuff.

Excellence haters! Cancer lovers!

 

[kurtinsc]

This is hilarious stuff.

Excellence haters! Cancer lovers!

Why necro a thread that had its last post 9 months ago by adding a completely nothing comment?