The media's contribution to the Armstrong Lie

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All I am asking posters to do is to inform people of the lie they are believing in (if they do believe in it). This lie has gnone far enough adnd we know the authoriteies such as the uci aren't credible. So I see the only way to slove the problem in cycling is to for the cycling fans to pressure authorities and ultimately they will be forced to start becoming credible.
 

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Cycling has been a sport that has had doping scandal after doping scandal. Until people start to accept that Lance was a doper, a cheat & a liar the sport will never recover.
Also this will lead to economic development and full employment.
 
I have sent many messages to France Televisions condemning their fawning over Lancey-poo despite the fact he is clearly a major doper and the fact that his "comeback" was clearly all about marketing his brand and filling his bank account and nothing to do with cancer.

I was surprised they ran an interview with Landis about his witnessing of Lance doping, I was not surprised that they didn't put the interview on the Stade2 website like all the other reports on the same show. Maybe the Landis interview slipped through the cracks and was shown before it was too late to stop it?

It will be interesting to see how Jean René Godard and Thierry Adam react when the big story breaks. I expect to see a lot of denial and justification.
 
Journalists are not stupid. They don’t bite the hand that feeds them. Easy to pass off DiLuca and Vino because they’re never coming to Australia so there’s no chance of an interview. MT wants an interview with Lance so he’ll say what needs to be said until Lance is gone. Once Armstrong is surplus MT will feign his “shock and disappointment” at the revelations.
 
thehog said:
Journalists are not stupid. They don’t bite the hand that feeds them. Easy to pass off DiLuca and Vino because they’re never coming to Australia so there’s no chance of an interview. MT wants an interview with Lance so he’ll say what needs to be said until Lance is gone. Once Armstrong is surplus MT will feign his “shock and disappointment” at the revelations.
I "understand" not attacking Armstrong and others who could be comparable to him in status and position, but I'm amazed by the basic lack of decency these folks display by attacking other riders they know aren't any worse than LA. If they just didn't say anything about doping, I wouldn't have much of a problem with them.
 
hrotha said:
I "understand" not attacking Armstrong and others who could be comparable to him in status and position, but I'm amazed by the basic lack of decency these folks display by attacking other riders they know aren't any worse than LA. If they just didn't say anything about doping, I wouldn't have much of a problem with them.

The level of hyprocrisy is really amazing. Admittedly Di Luca is scum, but Lancey-poo is on an entirely higher level of scumbagedness. To criticise Di Luca while defending Armstrong is soooo pathetic.
 
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thehog said:
Journalists are not stupid. They don’t bite the hand that feeds them. Easy to pass off DiLuca and Vino because they’re never coming to Australia so there’s no chance of an interview. MT wants an interview with Lance so he’ll say what needs to be said until Lance is gone. Once Armstrong is surplus MT will feign his “shock and disappointment” at the revelations.

I understand that. But some journalists have shown credibility and 'have bitten the hand that feeds them'. Surely these people have ethics and strong beliefs about lying and cheating like many of us do? I personally think once Armstrong is 'surplus' that people like Liggett will just keep denying all of it.
 
auscyclefan94 said:
I understand that. But some journalists have shown credibility and 'have bitten the hand that feeds them'. Surely these people have ethics and strong beliefs about lying and cheating like many of us do? I personally think once Armstrong is 'surplus' that people like Liggett will just keep denying all of it.

Liggett is in a class of his own. Reason being he's not employed by a media agency. He works for himself and is paid by Armstrong. Therefore he's not bound by the ethics of impartiality like the rest of the media organisations are. MT works for SBS yes? He should know better but the guy travels to the Tour once a year and most of all he needs access to the English speaking riders. If he starts bitvching about Lance then Armstrong puts a call through to his mates and they stop talking to him. These type of action won't be so prevalent anymore but you saw how Gerrans reacted to Landis coming to Australia.

Add to this that Jonker and Tutur won’t give anyone a press pass who is slightly critical of their investment of Armstrong. Note Valverde didn’t receive any criticism last year either.
 
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Wow, one sleep and there are 3 new Armstrong-threads.
Although Christmas is already over.

Thank you !

You are a true hero, ACF. Healing the world.
 
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Cobblestoned said:
Wow, one sleep and there are 3 new Armstrong-threads.


It's because he is a sociopathic fraud admired only by the inadequate, the deluded and the ignorant.

Your activities on this blog suggest a strong mix of all three qualities.
 
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Cobblestoned said:
Wow, one sleep and there are 3 new Armstrong-threads.
Although Christmas is already over.

Thank you !

You are a true hero, ACF. Healing the world.

I hear Wonderboy is loosing it, The stress is getting to him as everyone is flipped to the Feds. It appears it is effecting his groupies as well.
 
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auscyclefan94 said:
All I am asking posters to do is to inform people of the lie they are believing in (if they do believe in it). This lie has gnone far enough adnd we know the authoriteies such as the uci aren't credible. So I see the only way to slove the problem in cycling is to for the cycling fans to pressure authorities and ultimately they will be forced to start becoming credible.
and I inform you, do some digging, Thomas Frei, Bjorn Leukemans, not to mention Rominger, see if you can get the mail that Frei and Bjorn have on a certain somebody. Denial is not just for those reporters you speak of. No need to be a hypocrite, you have now been told multiple times.
 
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Race Radio said:
I hear Wonderboy is loosing it, The stress is getting to him as everyone is flipped to the Feds. It appears it is effecting his groupies as well.

That's all there is
Nothing more than you can feel now
That's all there is
 
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To all la's fans:do you remember tyler hamilton,roberto heras,manuel beltran,floyd landis,frankie andreu and probably others riders teammates of lance in usps and discovery procycling teams?they all are dopers,does anybody still thinks that lance was clean?he was involved in that mess as all they were,open your eyes!!!the rest is just marketing and propaganda with cancer and milions to the uci to hide the biggest scandal in cycling history,we'll see the truth soon...
 
Master50 said:
Unbelievable what you think you know. Just another example of declarations with great authority. THE UCI does not own the broadcast rights nor pay for the production nor contract with the broadcaster except at the WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS which is the race they own. They may have some rights to the feed but the feed is not theirs nor are the camera men.
Most of the feed from those cameras is provided to each broadcaster for their production teams what ever the language.

Good point. I wasn't clear. That changes everything.

Phil and Paul are there to provide color commentary over a race's video feed. They still aren't there to provide editorial. Much of their value is in enhancing a video feed to make it an entertaining show. Not much room for gruesome facts in their job.

Is it right? They still seem to be okay with the pretending.
 
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Darryl Webster said:
The likes of Ligget @ Sherwen et al are a complicit part of the Armstrong scam.
There not jounalists, there salesmen.:(

I agree with you to an extent. But just because Walter Cronkite sat in front of a teleprompter and insisted on making everyone believe he was still an actual "journalist", didn't make it so. I think we've come to expect too much from our color commentators. Phil and Paul are there to make the live footage more interesting to watch (and hopefully add to people's understanding of the situation). But they're no more complicit than any one of US.
 
auscyclefan94 said:
All I am asking posters to do is to inform people of the lie they are believing in (if they do believe in it)....

Except the problem is they 'believe' it. In their version of reality, the myth works. Not only does it work, the extreme ones have to defend it. People are stubborn that way.

I'm not saying don't do it, but just mentioning some critical facts from the big media outlets is enough to change people's mind. Many people are open to new information from 'trusted' third sources and will take it in. The others won't.

The ones that take you to task for not embracing the myth will likely end up looking like fools.
 
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Cobblestoned said:
Wow, one sleep and there are 3 new Armstrong-threads.
Although Christmas is already over.

Thank you !

You are a true hero, ACF. Healing the world.
I felt like I was Barrack Obama after becoming the leader of the US.:D
blackcat said:
and I inform you, do some digging, Thomas Frei, Bjorn Leukemans, not to mention Rominger, see if you can get the mail that Frei and Bjorn have on a certain somebody. Denial is not just for those reporters you speak of. No need to be a hypocrite, you have now been told multiple times.

Instead of always just mentioning that they have 'dirt' on Evans why don't you come out and say what they said. Otherwise, get lost!

btw, I find it funny that you trust a guy who's explanation for having testosterone in his sample is that he had sex with his wife before peeing into the sample. I don't think he is the most reliable source.:rolleyes:
 
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Tomalaris can not help himself!

So Danilo signs with Katusha. I give him 6 months! Riders like him just can't help themselves...