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El Pistolero said:
Mark believes he can win all those races in the future. San Remo already being done of course.

Which is great to see no? Here is a rider that has become possibly the second most well known name in our sport ever, based purely on the fact that idiots who know nothing about our sport have decided that the Green jersey is the only other classification that matters in cycling (here I was thinking that Kelly was a legend because of his monument wins, but no, its because he won the points 4 times).

So he could continue to rake it in by doing nothing all year, turning up to the Tour, taking a few sprints then going back home.

Instead he wants to win MSR. He wants to win Ronde. He wants to do the Giro and win stages. He wants to do the Vuelta and win stages.

There is so much to be admired in that.
 
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The Hitch said:
Which is great to see no? Here is a rider that has become possibly the second most well known name in our sport ever, based purely on the fact that idiots who know nothing about our sport have decided that the Green jersey is the only other classification that matters in cycling (here I was thinking that Kelly was a legend because of his monument wins, but no, its because he won the points 4 times).

So he could continue to rake it in by doing nothing all year, turning up to the Tour, taking a few sprints then going back home.

Instead he wants to win MSR. He wants to win Ronde. He wants to do the Giro and win stages. He wants to do the Vuelta and win stages.

There is so much to be admired in that.

There is nothing to admire about someone who wastes up space in his team just to get dropped in a race long before the final. What sprinter does not enter the races I just mentioned? Most do and most do better in them than Cavendish.

Besides, the problem about classics being underrated doesn't exist in my country, so I could care less what some random Englishman thinks.
 
El Pistolero said:
There is nothing to admire about someone who wastes up space in his team just to get dropped in a race long before the final. What sprinter does not enter the races I just mentioned? Most do and most do better in them than Cavendish.

Besides, the problem about classics being underrated doesn't exist in my country, so I could care less what some random Englishman thinks.

Not random Englishman but the world.

Cav is the biggest name in our sport but he wants to do the classics. Thats great to see.

Besides, you complain all the time that Andy Schleck does nothing but the Tour.

Cavendish who has every reason to go down that road, but instead decides to compete all season round.

Oh but you have a problem with that too.

It seems to me you hate Cav, Andy, and Valverde and will find a reason to critiscise their actions, regardless of what those actions are.
 
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The Hitch said:
Not random Englishman but the world.

Cav is the biggest name in our sport but he wants to do the classics. Thats great to see.

Besides, you complain all the time that Andy Schleck does nothing but the Tour.

Cavendish who has every reason to go down that road, but instead decides to compete all season round.

Oh but you have a problem with that too.

It seems to me you hate Cav, Andy, and Valverde and will find a reason to critiscise their actions, regardless of what those actions are.

Please tell me what Cavendish does at Paris-Roubaix, Ronde van Vlaanderen and Gent-Wevelgem? Have you seen him during those races? I know I haven't. So cut the crap. Cavendish isn't even the biggest name in the sport, that's still Contador.

Must I also respect Euskaltel for being totally useless at Roubaix and Ronde van Vlaanderen? No, I won't. They shouldn't be there.

Cavendish decides to compete all season? Really? Is that what you think he's doing? The last 2 years I only saw a decent Cavendish at the Tour de France and this year at the Worlds. Sure he did the Giro this year and won 2 stages, but he obviously wasn't in great shape. And again, most sprinters did the Giro as well. And he dropped out after the first real mountain stage.

According to your logic Andy races all season too. He was there at Tirreno-Adriatico, Pais Vasco, Fleche Wallonne, Criterium International, etc. !
 
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the hitch said:
not random englishman but the world.

cav is the biggest name in our sport
but he wants to do the classics. Thats great to see.

Besides, you complain all the time that andy schleck does nothing but the tour.

Cavendish who has every reason to go down that road, but instead decides to compete all season round.

Oh but you have a problem with that too.

It seems to me you hate cav, andy, and valverde and will find a reason to critiscise their actions, regardless of what those actions are.

lol

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Biggest Let Downs -> Cadel, Valverde, EBH, Sagan, Froome, Cobo

Expected Let Downs -> Gilbert (no way he can top this year), Martin, Voeckler, Schlecks, Nyuens, BMC (too many stars)

Hopefully they do something! -> Inxausti, Costa, Phinney, Vasil Kiry, Alex Dowsett, Rolland, GVA, TVG, JVDB
 
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gustienordic said:
Biggest Let Downs -> Cadel, Valverde, EBH, Sagan, Froome, Cobo

Expected Let Downs -> Gilbert (no way he can top this year), Martin, Voeckler, Schlecks, Nyuens, BMC (too many stars)

Hopefully they do something! -> Inxausti, Costa, Phinney, Vasil Kiry, Alex Dowsett, Rolland, GVA, TVG, JVDB

But do you think Gilbert will have been a letdown if he wins only 2 races next season: LBL and the Worlds?

It wouldn't top this year, but it still be one hell of a year to win a Monument and the Worlds in the same year. Even if he only won half of what he won this year, he'd still have a great season. That's what I think of it at least.
 
Alejandro Valverde. Most of what we've been saying is wishful thinking borne of hoping somebody can challenge Gilbert, and having a guy who's won multiple classics sitting on the shelf while Gilbert toys with everybody else has led to a lot of hopes being pinned on him.
 
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jens_attacks said:
pereiro sio says valverde is so full of rage that he will win his first race in january:eek:
tour de san luis might give us something to talk about early in the year

He's full of rage because he got banned for breaking the rules? Is this guy an idiot?
 
El Pistolero said:
Now he'll do even better than in 2006, 2007, 2008 and 2009 :rolleyes:

Definitely most hyped.

Please show me the posts which you think are overhyping Valverde? I havent seen anyone say he can challenge the TDF. No one is saying he will beat Gilbert in the classics either.

I definately havent seen anyone say he would do better than 06, 07, 08 or 09.

Is expecting him to place well in the classics and have some good 1 week races overhyping him?
 
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The Hitch said:
Please show me the posts which you think are overhyping Valverde? I havent seen anyone say he can challenge the TDF. No one is saying he will beat Gilbert in the classics either.

I definately havent seen anyone say he would do better than 06, 07, 08 or 09.

Is expecting him to place well in the classics and have some good 1 week races overhyping him?

How many posts haven't you made about Valverde winning the Worlds and other races?

Countless of posts. Even in this thread people are expecting him to pick up 15 wins. And just look at every post from c&c fan, he does think that. Just look at the Valverde coming home thread, enough posts there.

Valverde never could challenge the Tour, that's why no one is saying that.
 
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jens_attacks said:
he didn't break any rules.he has a license for that class

not a big fan of valverde but phil needs harder races,everyone is welcome,ricco,di luca,rumsas,bettini,everyone

He did break the rules, not sure what you're talking about here. I don't mind him coming back as well, so don't get what that's about as well.

Why is he angry for something that's his fault? Angry on him self?
 
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El Pistolero said:
He did break the rules, not sure what you're talking about here. I don't mind him coming back as well, so don't get what that's about as well.

Why is he angry for something that's his fault? Angry on him self?

obviously he thinks he's been done wrong. how hard is it to understand? :rolleyes:
 
El Pistolero said:
How many posts haven't you made about Valverde winning the Worlds and other races?

Countless of posts. Even in this thread people are expecting him to pick up 15 wins. And just look at every post from c&c fan, he does think that. Just look at the Valverde coming home thread, enough posts there.

Valverde never could challenge the Tour, that's why no one is saying that.

You mean the posts I made half a year ago when I cryptically, without even mentioning Piti by name, joked that everyone knows who will win 4 ardennes races in 2012.

Maybe Dekker T was also hyping Mollema when he responded that Mollema was going to win all those races:rolleyes:

Yeah 15 victories for Piti is a stretch but from what Ive seen c&cfan is talking about how Piti beat Phil in 2010 anyway.

So what have you, 1 poster saying that Valverde will win too many races, another saying Valverde beat Phil in 2010.


You are right. "Definitely most hyped". :rolleyes:
 
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Ryo Hazuki said:
obviously he thinks he's been done wrong. how hard is it to understand? :rolleyes:

He got what's coming to him.

What wrong has he been done? Does this guy ever think of what wrongs he has done to people riding clean? Dirt bag.

Everybody deserves a second chance, but being angry because you did something wrong is totally incomprehensible and actually disgusting.
 
El Pistolero said:
He's full of rage because he got banned for breaking the rules? Is this guy an idiot?

Kind of funny how when talking about Contador vs the one you hate so much, you say that Contador is the legitimate winner, the podium in Paris is all that counts, its ok because everyone dopes, etc etc etc.

I remember you once justified it too me by saying " you know that Valverde dopes as well".


But when the conversation shifts to Valverde, then you suddenly are the most fervent anti doper on the forum and even try to claim that we can't use Valverdes performances from 2010 to judge his athletic ability :rolleyes:

We both know that if it had been Andy Schleck that won that Tour and then tested for some clenbuterol you would be crying for blood and calling Contador the legitimate winner.
 
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El Pistolero said:
He got what's coming to him.

What wrong has he been done? Does this guy ever think of what wrongs he has done to people riding clean? Dirt bag.

Everybody deserves a second chance, but being angry because you did something wrong is totally incomprehensible and actually disgusting.

stop projecting everything as if it were yourself. you are so typical belgian. valverde thinks he's been done wrong. simple as that. if I've been fined for speeding over 60 km/h during midnight adn I get fined for 600 euros I get very mad while others migth think it's my own fault. understand?
 
jens_attacks said:
he didn't break any rules.he has a license for that class

not a big fan of valverde but phil needs harder races,everyone is welcome,ricco,di luca,rumsas,bettini,everyone
There'es no need of Ricco, Di Luca, Rebellin and all those guys to challenge Gilbert. If only the guys with potential in the current peloton would give a decent shot at the Ardennes. I mean Contador (specially this one), Sanchez, Evans, Anton,.... All of them seem to be obsessed with the Tour only, it's a shame they don't give a lot of attention to the Classics.
 

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