The most hyped rider in the off season only to not perform for season 2012 is ?

[auscyclefan94]

+1

And to think of the TdF team selection... Thor and Phil on the same team (with their egos) to support Evens? That's going to be a mess.

If you look at this team from a business perspective it's typical of an over-capitalized organization. I don't see it working either.

Unfortunately I fear this happening. I honestly would of preferred BMC just to hire Gilbert and Thor to go elsewhere. Do people really think that those guys will just ride tempo for Cadel at the Tour? Doubt it. Getting guys like Pinotti, Van Garderen & Cummings are all really good signings. They can win races and be very good domestiques for Cadel.

 

[gustienordic]

Unfortunately I fear this happening. I honestly would of preferred BMC just to hire Gilbert and Thor to go elsewhere. Do people really think that those guys will just ride tempo for Cadel at the Tour? Doubt it. Getting guys like Pinotti, Van Garderen & Cummings are all really good signings. They can win races and be very good domestiques for Cadel.

TJ isn't quite at the level yet where he can be contesting GTs for himself, so he might learn a few good things from Cadel. I see him as a future GT contender, maybe not star, but definitely a contender. BMC will be very good for him.

Thor + Gilbert + Cadel -> Reminds me of Zeus, Poseidon, & Hades, three of the gods in the cycling world. One or more of them will be disappointed this next season. I predict Thor.

 

[jordan5000]

I don't know why but I think Evans is going to flop HARD next year.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

I almost forgot the most hyped rider is nibali and he will fail hard 2012

 

[movingtarget]

Unfortunately I fear this happening. I honestly would of preferred BMC just to hire Gilbert and Thor to go elsewhere. Do people really think that those guys will just ride tempo for Cadel at the Tour? Doubt it. Getting guys like Pinotti, Van Garderen & Cummings are all really good signings. They can win races and be very good domestiques for Cadel.

BMC will have such a good squad to choose from that I don't think any of those guys are certainties to ride in the TDF. Without a team time trial in the 2012 BMC might be able to afford a bit of tinkering. I think they would be making a big mistake leaving out Hincapie, Burghardt etc as they are total team players and top level domestiques who will give everything for the team unlike some of the more talented riders with bigger ambitions. BMC's problem will be who to leave out not who to include. Will they be worried about stage wins at the risk of the overall. If Contador is banned I can't see any possible way that both Hushovd and Gilbert will ride the TDF. Hushovd will probably miss out. He would still have two other grand tours to attempt stage wins plus the classics and the Worlds to concentrate on. Unless both of those riders have to be included in the Tour team as part of their contractual arrangements. Who knows.

 

[just some guy]

Got to add Froome to list of Hyped riders who will fail 2012

 

[RownhamHill]

It wouldn't surprise me one bit if theres some "Miracle recovery for Gesink, going strong for Oman and spring classics" statements popping up soon. Its just how it works around here..!

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/gesink-all-i-need-is-time

Only took a couple of days!

 

[theyoungest]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/gesink-all-i-need-is-time

Only took a couple of days!

Does riders hyping themselves count?

 

[Havetts]

No idea why he does it, but I guess that should count - doesnt matter who hypes does it ?

 

[richo36]

are you kidding me?

I should of explained what i meant more. To stand a chance next year Evans has to overcome a huge mental hurdle. He has to overcome the pressure of being champ, the pressure he puts on him self, The stress of knowing that next years tour is going to be decided by a small margin, Not knowing to what degree gilbert and thor will ride for him. If he can not overcome These mental games he has no chance of competing with contador. He has shown in the past that sometimes mentally he isnt always strong. This is why i said it. Im not saying evans is favourite and the only way he will lose is if he isnt in the right mental state. Contador has proven that mentally he is a rock. he doesnt crack under pressure. so his biggest threat is how good evans rides.

 

[Kwibus]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/gesink-all-i-need-is-time

Only took a couple of days!

He isn't hyping himself for the spring classics though

 

[movingtarget]

I should of explained what i meant more. To stand a chance next year Evans has to overcome a huge mental hurdle. He has to overcome the pressure of being champ, the pressure he puts on him self, The stress of knowing that next years tour is going to be decided by a small margin, Not knowing to what degree gilbert and thor will ride for him. If he can not overcome These mental games he has no chance of competing with contador. He has shown in the past that sometimes mentally he isnt always strong. This is why i said it. Im not saying evans is favourite and the only way he will lose is if he isnt in the right mental state. Contador has proven that mentally he is a rock. he doesnt crack under pressure. so his biggest threat is how good evans rides.

A few years ago maybe but not now. Evans now has that elusive grand tour win that he always looked like winning before. Evans is a much better rider since he won the Worlds in 2009. He is much more confident, and more comfortable in his current team. The season he just had confirms that. If Evans is in form, climbing and time trialling well, he will be the biggest threat to Contador. There are no more surprises now for Evans and I think he has overcome the problems he had in the past simply by getting better people to work with and a team that showed this year, that it has faith in his ability unlike some of his past teams. He showed in this year's TDF that mentally he is fine. Contador will be the hot favourite anyway if he is there. Evans has already achieved what he always wanted by winning the Tour so I don't think pressure will be a factor even if Contador does not start.

 

[FignonLeGrand]

How is Gilbert the most hyped? There's a consensus on this forum and practically the whole media that he will most likely not repeat his stellar year.

Valverde and Cadel Evans are the most hyped.

Surely Valverde has already won this thread. Gilbert just won everything, Evans is now a TDF and world champion (ok ex but you get what I mean) so its not really hype as they have recently met or exceeded expectations. Whereas Valverde has been having a little break but looking around this forum will go through 2012 undefeated. hhhmm dont believe the hype

 

[nobilis]

I don't think that Valverde is hyped on this forum. It's just that we're excited that he'll be back to racing and we know that, every race he enters, he goes for the win. So whatever the outcome was, I know that I'll be satisfied because he would've put a good show.

 

[Hugo Koblet]

Based on this thread, I'd say Valverde is quite the opposite of overhyped. How can someone, who almost everyone says is overhyped, be overhyped?

 

[El Pistolero]

Based on this thread, I'd say Valverde is quite the opposite of overhyped. How can someone, who almost everyone says is overhyped, be overhyped?

Because not everyone is saying that and not everyone is posting in this thread.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Because not everyone is saying that and not everyone is posting in this thread.

But even those such as myself who have been doing the overhyping named Valverde in this thread.

 

[greenedge]

Andy Shleck. I don't think he can win next year and will probably not even be podium. I don't mind him even though i am not a fanboy of him. How many people would actually mind if Andy won a TDF. I would think that we would all rejoice that a rider ( some of us have seen since 2007 ) will finally win a GT.

( might be clinic related if he does next year though at the TDF )

Cadel and Gilbert are not hyped, everyone just hopes for either of them or neither. Gilbert already proved that this year he can still win even when marked because the Ardennes come down to form, not craftiness. Cadel finally achieved his main goal and has a route that will suit him. He is also defending champion of the TDF and that would be his main goal.

With regards to Valverde i look forward to him getting some good results. I don't know how much he can challenge PG but any challenge would be good.

 

[greenedge]

Froome will suddenly find his feet again as a 2nd rate climbing domestique for his overrated captain.

Scarponi only finished 2nd at the Giro at what age again. Give him time. Remember we will come back to this thread next year so don't go making quotes that will come back to haunt you ( hopefully )

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

So do you think the codename "Sevillano" belongs to a different rider?

As for the question in this thread, my answer is Froome and Valverde.

that's not the point I was making I said they were punished indirectly but about the list I will say this:

you think honestly people are that stupid to use code names for themselves with their own names in it? why are they code names then., that whole fuenteslist was laughable. if it was in a movie everyone would see how unrealistisc and fake it all sounds

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

Scarponi only finished 2nd at the Giro at what age again. Give him time. Remember we will come back to this thread next year so don't go making quotes that will come back to haunt you ( hopefully )

His opinions have nothing to do with cycling and everything to do with anglophobia.

Some Scots just love to bite the hand that feeds.

 

[El Pistolero]

His opinions have nothing to do with cycling and everything to do with anglophobia.

Some Scots just love to bite the hand that feeds.

I wonder why people could ever get Anglophobia

 

[spalco]

Cavendish (injury), Wiggins (will finish creditably but not tops), Froome (won't do much of anything).

Call it superstition, a touch of the old British hope-then-inevitable-fail-glass-half-full thing. Of course I hope that I'm wrong.

That's just in soccer.

I'm going with Tony Martin. He dominated the TT this year, but Cancellara often didn't look quite his best, maybe because of putting too much focus on the spring (which didn't work out that well either). But I hope he'll adjust his training, come back stronger than ever and teach the impudent usurper a lesson in 2012.

Or maybe I should nominate Cancellara instead, we'll see.

 

[ferryman]

I wonder why people could ever get Anglophobia

LOL. It doesn't take much to make the Philes show their true colours

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

I wonder why people could ever get Anglophobia

Well, it currently seems rather popular in Europe as people don't like to be told 'told you so' whilst they're not yet willing to accept they have screwed themselves horribly, against the considered advice of others.