Loads of people have done the ring and run stuff in their youth. Barely any adult have chased and pinned underage girls to the floor in their underwear. But somehow certain people here believe that the former is worse than the latter.
So the alternative is:He was far, far from a situation of sheer powerlessness, not even close. He could have:
Gone back to his original room with the teammate roommate (by far the best option)
Called his coaches and have them make sure he wasn’t interrupted again by posting someone in hall
Called his coaches and have them go be the heavy with the paren
Called the hotel to intervene (I wouldn’t have a lot of faith that would work).
Asked his girlfriend to sit outside for awhile.
instead, he lies in wait and chases them? Very strange
Loads of people have done the ring and run stuff in their youth. Barely any adult have chased and pinned underage girls to the floor in their underwear. But somehow certain people here believe that the former is worse than the latter.
All of which are better options than risk being disturbed further the night before your biggest race of the season.So the alternative is:
-call the hotel so they can say something against the parents. (most usefull and probably like you say also pointless since it wasn't the first time)
- moving out to avoid people harassing him in the night
- call coaches in the middle of the night with the question if they want to sleep in his hallway
- throw his girlfriend out of bed and let her sleep in the hallway
Yeah, also it happened at ~10:30pm and had supposedly been going on for hours. Oh, also there was a bed for him in another room he could have easily moved too.All of which are better options than risk being disturbed further the night before your biggest race of the season.
I'm going to give you the curtsy of responding one more time, and i will try and make it as clear as possible for you so i don't have to reply to your nonsense again.This is hilarious. First he’s going to have prove financial loss, because could have won is unlikely to cut it, then he’s going to have to prove it was their actions that caused him to be taken in to a police station, spoiler alert, it was his actions that caused that, and then he’s going to have to prove he took all reasonable measures to resolve the issue, which he’s already admitted he didn’t.
You know what has a small but greater chance of succeeding, and certainly damaging a reputation? The case against a man who let kids messing about go on for so long, without taking several obvious steps to resolve the issue, that he couldn’t control himself any more and charged out of his room, in only his underwear, and assaulted two young girls. He’s lucky no one came around the corner to find him running about in his tighty-whiteys pushing a screaming girl into a hotel room.
If he and his people are even remotely intelligent they will do absolutely everything they can to make this disappear quickly and quietly.
Why not?Ding dong ditching may amount to harassment, and it is worthy of note that a parent may be liable if they helped their child commit the offense.
in uk it is punishable to up to 14 days in jail for ding dong ditching
In pennsylvania you can be fined up to $400 and up to 90 day jail time.
edit: ding dong ditching is unlawful because it infringes on the rights of others and disturbs the peace.
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Is ding dong ditching illegal? Here's what the law says
Is ding dong ditching illegal?, the childhood prank you have always thought to be harmless may actually constitute an illegality, under somewww.guidelinelaw.com
I don't want to say this should happen to them, but some here don't seem to understand that knocking on people door is a form of harassment and punishable by law. There is a reason for it, it is not just a simple innocent prank...
No, my responding with a laughing emoji is a response to how laughable most of these posts are. Keep defending a guy who assaults kids if you want to.I'm going to give you the curtsy of responding one more time, and i will try and make it as clear as possible for you so i don't have to reply to your nonsense again.
1/ It was a question. "Is it possible for him to sue". I 'm pretty sure it is, but i am not claiming anything, unlike you are doing.
2/ I would personally like him to sue if it is possible, because i find the parents attitude appalling and i think this story should have more than one loser. And i would also find it funny.
3/ I am not claiming it is in his best interest. He has already said he wants to leave it behind him as soon as possible, so it is very unlikely.
4/ You keep harking back to what he did after the kids had been misbehaving. This is not the point.
5/ You don't have to prove financial loss to sue. There are plenty of different ways and reasons to sue. When i slap your wife's bum, you also can't prove financial loss. Doesn't mean you can't sue. Same goes for cyberbullying or harassment at work etc. Depriving someone of sleep intentionally and repeatedly is bullying. The kids had been asked to stop but refused.
6/ None of this means i'm ok or supportive of whatever Van der Poel has done, I have been very clear about that as soon as it was clear exactly what he did. But that doesn't take away that the parents attitude is appalling. They knew their kids have been brats in the past, they chose not to either discipline, educate or supervise them and this behavior should not be tolerated. So yes, the parents should be held accountable for their kids harassing strangers.
7/ You responding to every post you don't agree with, with a lol emoticon does in fact show you are about as mature as the kids in this story.
The other people on the same floor that also got harassed but didn't respond could sue.I'm going to give you the curtsy of responding one more time, and i will try and make it as clear as possible for you so i don't have to reply to your nonsense again.
1/ It was a question. "Is it possible for him to sue". I 'm pretty sure it is, but i am not claiming anything, unlike you are doing.
2/ I would personally like him to sue if it is possible, because i find the parents attitude appalling and i think this story should have more than one loser. And i would also find it funny.
3/ I am not claiming it is in his best interest. He has already said he wants to leave it behind him as soon as possible, so it is very unlikely.
4/ You keep harking back to what he did after the kids had been misbehaving. This is not the point.
5/ You don't have to prove financial loss to sue. There are plenty of different ways and reasons to sue. When i slap your wife's bum, you also can't prove financial loss. Doesn't mean you can't sue. Same goes for cyberbullying or harassment at work etc. Depriving someone of sleep intentionally and repeatedly is bullying. The kids had been asked to stop but refused.
6/ None of this means i'm ok or supportive of whatever Van der Poel has done, I have been very clear about that as soon as it was clear exactly what he did. But that doesn't take away that the parents attitude is appalling. They knew their kids have been brats in the past, they chose not to either discipline, educate or supervise them and this behavior should not be tolerated. So yes, the parents should be held accountable for their kids harassing strangers.
7/ You responding to every post you don't agree with, with a lol emoticon does in fact show you are about as mature as the kids in this story.
The police were there and took MVDP's statement and decided that what the kids did was not harassment or at least not worthy of being cited or given a fine ( i dont think you get 'arrested' for harassment) for it.Ding dong ditching may amount to harassment, and it is worthy of note that a parent may be liable if they helped their child commit the offense.
in uk it is punishable to up to 14 days in jail for ding dong ditching
In pennsylvania you can be fined up to $400 and up to 90 day jail time.
edit: ding dong ditching is unlawful because it infringes on the rights of others and disturbs the peace.
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Is ding dong ditching illegal? Here's what the law says
Is ding dong ditching illegal?, the childhood prank you have always thought to be harmless may actually constitute an illegality, under somewww.guidelinelaw.com
I don't want to say this should happen to them, but some here don't seem to understand that knocking on people door is a form of harassment and punishable by law. There is a reason for it, it is not just a simple innocent prank...
How on earth did you ever become a mod, you can't even read.No, my responding with a laughing emoji is a response to how laughable most of these posts are. Keep defending a guy who assaults kids if you want to.
Well those are up to punishments, to get those you really need to do a lot worse. Mostly by repetitive and with damages.Why not?
Depending on who the police officer is and where you live things can be different on what they do. Arresting is most likely not the case for that evening.The police were there and took MVDP's statement and decided that what the kids did was not harassment or at least not worthy of being cited or given a fine ( i dont think you get 'arrested' for harassment) for it.
What can cops do about ding dong ditching
If the victim of a ding dong ditching calls the police on you, you may be arrested or let off with a warning. If the ding dong ditching circumstances are severe, such as damage to property, you may be arrested and charged with trespassing and mischief.
As already indicated, a first-time offender may receive a warning, but the persistent disturbance of the peace can lead to instant arrest and prosecution.
some better than others, but yes, these are solutions.So the alternative is:
i'm sorry but you are joking right? These aren't solutions.
- moving out to avoid people harassing him in the night
- call coaches in the middle of the night with the question if they want to sleep in his hallway
- call the hotel so they can say something against the parents. (most usefull and probably like you say also pointless since it wasn't the first time)
- throw his girlfriend out of bed and let her sleep in the hallway
Internet browsers read things out loud thanks.How on earth did you ever become a mod, you can't even read.
Just admit you were actually trying to sign up for the monthly newsletterInternet browsers read things out loud thanks.
Damn it, quiet you!Just admit you were actually trying to sign up for the monthly newsletter
Thank you for summarising the situation so well. Now I can ignore all the essays posted in here and go back to complaining about Fred WrightMVDP reacted like an idiot, the girls who did the prank acted like idiots and their parents seem to be the biggest idiots.
I'd much rather discuss Jumbo PR team vs Deceuninck because Jumbo could learn from DeceuninckThank you for summarising the situation so well. Now I can ignore all the essays posted in here and go back to complaining about Fred Wright
Why would you complain about Fred Wright? Guaranteed Evenepoel’s win and more money in Masnada’s pocket.Thank you for summarising the situation so well. Now I can ignore all the essays posted in here and go back to complaining about Fred Wright
The older sister was obviously adoptedApparently, Dutch journalists have been in contact with the older sister of the girls who played knock-and-run and she sent them the videos with consent of the parents. (https://www.hln.be/wk-wielrennen/tienermeisje-14-en-filmpjes-schetsen-beeld-van-bizarre-hotelnacht-mathieu-van-der-poel-je-hebt-ons-bedreigd~adc33b17/)
Interesting parts in the story:
- They didn't know there was a WC cycling, they were on vacation and had no idea who VDP was.
- The girls were in one room with the parents in the other room. The parents thought the girls were watching a horror movie but the older sister was in the bathroom while the younger sisters were playing knock-and-run. According to the older sister, the younger sisters frequently play knock-and-run in hotels and the parents know about that.
- Before the knock-and-run which is on video and shows VDP chasing the girls into their room, they already played knock-and-run on his door multiple times that evening and even in the afternoon (according to VDP).
- According to the older sister, the parents don't care much about what the girls did but they are mad at VDP and think he got off too easily with a fine.
- The oldest sister feels somewhat bad that VDP had to miss a night's sleep for such an important race over this but her younger sister apparently doesn't care.
Pushing a young girl is a more delicate matter than barging into a young pro cyclist.I'd much rather discuss Jumbo PR team vs Deceuninck because Jumbo could learn from Deceuninck![]()
"Laid" lol, that's as bad grammar as Bruno Mars.