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Teams & Riders The "MVP" Mathieu Van der Poel Road Discussion Thread

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the thing is, Mathieu himself is still improving. His level now is way better than what he was in 2021/2020. No way he'd pull off a solo like E3 or today back then. Even if the field was lesser today. Last week WVA was there and Pedersen wasn't injured...
As far as his watts go, I dunno. I think in AG 2019 we saw enough watts to pull off a long solo victory, it's just that his race craft was absolute garbage at the time. Most of the difference came from simply figuring out how to be patient.
 
As far as his watts go, I dunno. I think in AG 2019 we saw enough watts to pull off a long solo victory, it's just that his race craft was absolute garbage at the time. Most of the difference came from simply figuring out how to be patient.
I don't know about watts either, but his run of performances and placings in classics in 2019 was almost as impressive as what we saw last year.
 
I don't know about watts either, but his run of performances and placings in classics in 2019 was almost as impressive as what we saw last year.
Yep, everyone is stronger now, but relatively speaking the 24 year old MVDP straight from the CX fields was just bludgeoning the peloton in 2019 - but was wasting watts like a drunken sailor in a strip club. RVV, Brabantse, AG, etc. Not sure I've ever seen a more efficient win for MVDP this Sunday, and probably a good thing too because with the weather and all it didn't look like he had a ton of margin in terms of energy.
 
Probably just a coincidence, but you have to say that MVDP (like most folks in their 20's) came to a crossroads with the 2022 Worlds debacle. Time to get your sh-- together type thing. Lots of folks were writing him off after that. Minus the back flare ups after the Christmas period it's been all up since then. Says a lot about this character and the job his parents did raising him. Funny thing is that MVDP missed two golden WC opps in Leuven (back, bad prep) and Austrailia (although not sure anyone actually counts the AU one as a real WC).
 
Probably just a coincidence, but you have to say that MVDP (like most folks in their 20's) came to a crossroads with the 2022 Worlds debacle. Time to get your sh-- together type thing. Lots of folks were writing him off after that. Minus the back flare ups after the Christmas period it's been all up since then. Says a lot about this character and the job his parents did raising him. Funny thing is that MVDP missed two golden WC opps in Leuven (back, bad prep) and Austrailia (although not sure anyone actually counts the AU one as a real WC).

This is what its scary about Van der Poel. He is currently the most successful one-day rider in the peloton but he could have a much better palmares at the same age.

If he had started road cycling seriously a few years earlier, he would likely have already four Ronde wins and one more at Roubaix and/or Sanremo. Then, in the World Championsips, his hunger knock in Yorkshire 2019 (probably wouldn't have happened with a little more experience), the back injury derrailing the preparation for Leuven and also Roubaix 2021 and the freakish incident in Wollongong 2022, under different circumstances he would be at least a double World Champion by now.
 
Anyone know a thing about the Whoop armwrists? Saw a photo that said 20 strain for his win in the Ronde. And people were saying he didn’t have to go all out because they expected a higher number. So my question, is there a maximum number for strain on it? Or what does this 20 mean?
 
Anyone know a thing about the Whoop armwrists? Saw a photo that said 20 strain for his win in the Ronde. And people were saying he didn’t have to go all out because they expected a higher number. So my question, is there a maximum number for strain on it? Or what does this 20 mean?
According to Whoop, the maximum strain that can be obtained is 21.

Strain measures the cardiovascular load that your body takes on during a given day or training session. Strain uses your physiological baselines to quantify how a given training stimulus taxes your body internally.

How is Strain calculated?

Day Strain starts accumulating from the moment you fall asleep and resets every sleep cycle. Your Day Strain score represents the total stress load your body takes on throughout the day, in and out of training and competition.

Activity Strain is calculated by combining the weighted time you spent in various heart rate zones throughout a training session. Periods of elevated heart rate and movement that are 15 minutes or more and qualify as at least an 8.0 Strain will be auto-detected and logged as an activity. If your activity included significant rest periods and is not auto-detected, use Strain Target in-app to manually start and end the activity or retroactively log the activity later.


How are Strain and Recovery related?

Strain takes your Recovery metrics, like resting heart rate, into account. This means that when your Recovery is low, you may fatigue quicker, and Strain will accumulate easier. Monitoring Strain based on your Recovery can keep you performing at your peak recoverable volume for extended periods of time. Additionally, on days when you record levels of Strain that are higher than normal, monitor your score and pay close attention to your Recovery score.
 
Anyone know a thing about the Whoop armwrists? Saw a photo that said 20 strain for his win in the Ronde. And people were saying he didn’t have to go all out because they expected a higher number. So my question, is there a maximum number for strain on it? Or what does this 20 mean?
I'm no Whoop expert, but I feel the only people looking at those numbers for performance are the Whoop marketing team.

(But for comparisons sake his Roubaix win was 20.7 according to said marketing team)
 
80km ride and 13km/hour run the day after his win. Recovered pretty well I guess.

Is he going back to Spain after every race these weeks? If it works. Better weather to train and less media attention like here in Belgium.
If it works...keep doing it. He flew in this winter from training in Spain and was killing it at the start of the CX season. He flew in from Spain for MSR and was the only one on the wheel of Pog at the top of the Poggio. He flew in from Spain for E3 and won that race. You don't have to train in miserable weather to be fast...that's old cycling nonsense.
 
This is what its scary about Van der Poel. He is currently the most successful one-day rider in the peloton but he could have a much better palmares at the same age.

If he had started road cycling seriously a few years earlier, he would likely have already four Ronde wins and one more at Roubaix and/or Sanremo. Then, in the World Championsips, his hunger knock in Yorkshire 2019 (probably wouldn't have happened with a little more experience), the back injury derrailing the preparation for Leuven and also Roubaix 2021 and the freakish incident in Wollongong 2022, under different circumstances he would be at least a double World Champion by now.
True. Although I would argue that his palmares would be even more freakish had he started on the road at 19 or 20. Then again, 6 CX WC's and multiple WC MTB wins is nice to have on your palmares too.