Teams & Riders The "MVP" Mathieu Van der Poel Road Discussion Thread

[jaylew]

I have Flobikes, Peacock and GCN, but none showing Coppi Bartali. Any hope for finding it somehow?

I don't think it's usually televised live, just highlight packages later. Someone can correct me if this has changed.

Anyway given the parcours and startlist I'd be fairly surprised if he doesn't pick up a stage somewhere.

 

[DaLong]

I have Flobikes, Peacock and GCN, but none showing Coppi Bartali. Any hope for finding it somehow?

I don't think it's televised. Someone said earlier that in the past it's been available on Facebook of all platforms, maybe just the highlights.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

I still think VdPs best bet is to launch his own move on the final km of the Poggio. Hes the most explosive rider in the world with Alaphilippe, I think he can make a gap there

he said it made no sense with the headwind.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

I don't think it's televised. Someone said earlier that in the past it's been available on Facebook of all platforms, maybe just the highlights.

it's on RAI as far as I understood

 

[SafeBet]

There are highlights on RAI. Live coverage, I don't think so.

 

[Red Rick]

he said it made no sense with the headwind.

Except there was no headwind there

 

[jaylew]

I don't know if there was an actual headwind but multiple riders are saying there was one.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Except there was no headwind there

ypu, I guess you know better than the man in the race itself?

 

[Red Rick]

ypu, I guess you know better than the man in the race itself?

With VdP thats definitely possible. He makes a lot of bad excuses often. Wind direction is not that hard to verify.

Headwind Poggio with a lot of stop/start and no consistent pacing in 6 minutes flat sure Mathieu

 

[tobydawq]

With VdP thats definitely possible. He makes a lot of bad excuses often. Wind direction is not that hard to verify.

Headwind Poggio with a lot of stop/start and no consistent pacing in 6 minutes flat sure Mathieu

On a climb with so many hairpin turns, there will have been some headwind stretches, though. But yeah, probably not the last stretch before the telephone box.

 

[noob]

All I think of when watching this guy is how many years he has left in a bike race. Sadly.

Interview. Says he's getting old

https://twitter.com/x/status/1505231858166075396

View: https://twitter.com/Milano_Sanremo/status/1505231858166075396?s=20&t=ZwXX6Cqt1h0xb60ALcrD8A

Weird. So it seems the noob thinks he's shorteing his carrer, while MVDP thinks his carrer is soon over anyway so he has to win it all before it ends.

For those who are interested...

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5FcVrlI9oY&t=2s

And then that last interview...

"I don't think my friends, my family, my girlfriend weren't really, I think they weren't that pleased that I was at home because I wasn't the most enjoyable person at the at this period".

What does this guy expect of himself? :O Who's enjoyable when injured? Maybe you gotta be cyclists in many generations to have that much pressure on your shoulders, but it makes me sad as it sounds so depressing

 

[Oldermanish]

On a climb with so many hairpin turns, there will have been some headwind stretches, though. But yeah, probably not the last stretch before the telephone box.

Agreed from the limited footage I saw.
Didn't Tadej suggest his first effort came too early, too close to a hairpin and into headwind? I think he identified it as the wasted effort. Either way; WvA and VDP both were able to ride back to Pogi easily on several ramps that would suggest they had a draft.
Don't know for sure but looked like that.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

I honestly also think he looked clearly weaker than last year in Sanremo. I dont think a 100% MVDP cant snap close SKA after riding a more efficient Poggio than Van Aert and Pog

the funny

Christoph Roodhooft: "Mathieu van der Poel reed nooit beter de Poggio op"

Interview Mathieu van der Poel werd bij zijn seizoensdebuut derde in Milaan-San Remo. Twee dagen later belden we teammanager Christoph Roodhooft voor een evaluatie en met de vraag wat dat resultaat nu betekent voor de klassiekers. “In de Ronde van Vlaanderen wordt anders gekoerst dan in...

www.wielerflits.nl

 

[Ricco']

Don't know why my mind blocked it but was sure this year was only the 2nd MSR he did, I didn't remind him at all in the 2020 edition. Only reading in that interview that it was his 3rd Poggio ascent made me look when were the first.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Don't know why my mind blocked it but was sure this year was only the 2nd MSR he did, I didn't remind him at all in the 2020 edition. Only reading in that interview that it was his 3rd Poggio ascent made me look when were the first.

2020 was the famous late start to the season where VDP overtrained himself and was *** through the italian classics

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Mathieu van der Poel wil Giro en Tour combineren: "En die wil ik allebei uitrijden"

Mathieu van der Poel, pas net terug van een rugblessure, heeft grootse plannen voor dit seizoen. De Nederlander van Alpecin-Fenix wil dit jaar namelijk zijn debuut in de Giro d’Italia maken en de Italiaanse ronde combineren met de Tour de France. “En ik heb de intentie om ze dit jaar allebei uit...

www.wielerflits.nl

barely back from injury and now he wants to do giro tour double.

And he wants to finish both races. Idk chief. Doesn't seem wise after a lingering back injury

 

[KZD]

Mathieu van der Poel wil Giro en Tour combineren: "En die wil ik allebei uitrijden"

Mathieu van der Poel, pas net terug van een rugblessure, heeft grootse plannen voor dit seizoen. De Nederlander van Alpecin-Fenix wil dit jaar namelijk zijn debuut in de Giro d’Italia maken en de Italiaanse ronde combineren met de Tour de France. “En ik heb de intentie om ze dit jaar allebei uit...

www.wielerflits.nl

barely back from injury and now he wants to do giro tour double.

And he wants to finish both races. Idk chief. Doesn't seem wise after a lingering back injury

Its quite unwise wanting to finish the Giro in my point of view especially given that the World Championships route will likely suit him well and finishing the Giro and Tour could mean end of the season for him even if with the light schedule that he will have before.

Riding LBL should be his priority at least if he doesn't win Ronde or Roubaix

 

[jaylew]

Mathieu van der Poel wil Giro en Tour combineren: "En die wil ik allebei uitrijden"

Mathieu van der Poel, pas net terug van een rugblessure, heeft grootse plannen voor dit seizoen. De Nederlander van Alpecin-Fenix wil dit jaar namelijk zijn debuut in de Giro d’Italia maken en de Italiaanse ronde combineren met de Tour de France. “En ik heb de intentie om ze dit jaar allebei uit...

www.wielerflits.nl

barely back from injury and now he wants to do giro tour double.

And he wants to finish both races. Idk chief. Doesn't seem wise after a lingering back injury

Ugh. I think that's a terrible idea. And that's to say nothing of whatever mtb plans he has. As much as I love watching him race in all disciplines he's going to have to start making better decisions if he wants to have a sustained cycling career.

 

[Zoef-Lightning]

I wouldn't go for this combination, especially after being out for months with back problems.

But, as compensation he will not be mountain biking for the next few months. In that respect, the entourage has finally realized that combining and practicing together (cyclocross), road, mountainbike, road again, mountainbike again, during the same season, is very taxing. And I hope that the so-called connoisseurs who thought that it should be possible, despite the long-term back problems, will now apologize. After denigrating the real connoisseurs who criticized the impossible combination. An impossible combination, not in terms of talent or physical ability, but in terms of physical load, injurys etc.

 

[Valanga]

It's not like he'll be racing for the podiums in those GT's though, so he can do the mountain stages at a relatively "easy" pace.
He'd probably be doing similar work in training if he wasn't doing a GT, so I'm not sure it's such a bad idea.

 

[Zoef-Lightning]

It's not like he'll be racing for the podiums in those GT's though, so he can do the mountain stages at a relatively "easy" pace.
He'd probably be doing similar work in training if he wasn't doing a GT, so I'm not sure it's such a bad idea.

Of course. But why 2 grand tours ? And so in quick succession. Then make the combination Tour and Vuelta. Or Giro and Vuelta.

 

[tobydawq]

It's amazing how clever people are when it comes to what Van der Poel should and shouldn't do.

Incredible how much this still applies.

 

[jaylew]

Incredible how much this still applies.

No different that with any other rider(been to the Remco thread?), team, race organizer, etc...voicing opinions on what figures in sport should or shouldn't do is one of the backbones of sporting forums and fandom in general.

 

[tobydawq]

No different that with any other rider(been to the Remco thread?), team, race organizer, etc...voicing opinions on what figures in sport should or shouldn't do is one of the backbones of sporting forums and fandom in general.

Yeah, but here it's because every poster knows better what's most healthy for the rider. I think it's extreme in this thread.

 

[jaylew]

No one knows, including Mathieu and his team as we've seen. People are just voicing their opinions as always. It's definitely not extreme