The Next Step--Target Letters

[Race Radio]

What is Anderson's handle here?

TexPat.......

 

[Cimacoppi49]

Tignanello is actually a Sang/Cab blend from Tuscany. As far as warped bottles I have a bottle of this saved for the plea bargain.

Back in the 90s they marketed their wine in NYC in a dark bottle with a warped neck--thinner than the ones you have. I've tried to get bottles of it lately but have not been able to find it.

 

[TexPat]

What is Anderson's handle here?

Why? Would you like to send me a bottle of the Tignanello?

 

[Cimacoppi49]

I know. He used the "I'll help your friend with cancer if you could let this one go" more than once.

It wasn't always forthcoming.

I'm heading to the garage to find my papers. I think they're buried underneath an old rusting Peugeot Reynolds 501 frame.

PX10-LE was one of the nicest bike to ride and race in the 1970s. Won my first race on one. God, I feel old.

 

[Cimacoppi49]

Why? Would you like to send me a bottle of the Tignanello?

Only if you testify at Armstrong's criminal trial.
Has Miller, Novitsky or any other Federal agent contacted you?

 

[sartain]

YES they do and Travaglini is by far the best bottler of the stuff; it is one of my favorite wines. It's basically a Barolo without the price tag. I had a case of their 1997 crop ONCE, sadly, they are all gone now!

 

[TexPat]

It's an expensive flight back to the US--wouldn't that be a waste of tax payers' money?

 

[Cimacoppi49]

It's an expensive flight back to the US--wouldn't that be a waste of tax payers' money?

As a taxpayer, I'd urge Miller to send you a ticket--RT. Have they contacted you?

 

[sartain]

It's an expensive flight back to the US--wouldn't that be a waste of tax payers' money?

Perhaps LA will send his G450 to shuttle you back AND stock the thing with his favorite wine for you to sip on?

 

[Cimacoppi49]

Perhaps LA will send his G450 to shuttle you back AND stock the thing with his favorite wine for you to sip on?

Would that be Ripple or Boones Farm Apple Wine?

 

[D-Queued]

It's an expensive flight back to the US--wouldn't that be a waste of tax payers' money?

Damn. Coffee now spewed all over my monitor.



Apparently the taxpayer is willing to support the whole innocent until proven guilty thing. This lets the more perverse offenders taunt via twitter and pay PR firms to try and drum up witch hunts while the arm of justice continues along slowly.

Dave.

 

[Race Radio]

Perhaps LA will send his G450 to shuttle you back AND stock the thing with his favorite wine for you to sip on?

Maybe he can give Mike a ride back to the States when he returns from the TdU?

Funny story about Armstrong's jet. It is not a G450 but a 15 year old G-IVSP. He bought it about two years ago, right before the bottom dropped out of the private jet market. It lost at least $5 million in value over the space of a year. If he thought his legal fees were expensive wait until the engine overhaul and they discover the corrosion issues that are common on those planes....$1 million per engine.

To quote Tom Wolfe....... "Hemorrhaging Money"

 

[TexPat]

I've been on some long flights, but I'd bet that would be the longest ever.
Pass.
Even the joke gives me the creeps.

 

[D-Queued]

I've been on some long flights, but I'd bet that would be the longest ever.
Pass.
Even the joke gives me the creeps.

Yup, the joke is a creep.

Dave.

 

[Der_Gestreifte]

completely unrelated:

Funny story about Armstrong's jet. It is not a G450 but a 15 year old G-IVSP. He bought it about two years ago, right before the bottom dropped out of the private jet market. It lost at least $5 million in value over the space of a year. If he thought his legal fees were expensive wait until the engine overhaul and they discover the corrosion issues that are common on those planes....$1 million per engine.

So that´s why he hauled another guy aboard?

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Agreed. We're already getting drunken posts about hookers and blow at training camps from some of the more deranged critics. Just imagine what this place will be like when the indictments come?

For some people seeing Armstrong in court is the main event in their lives, far bigger than any grand tour. Sad really.

Check it out. Another Lance fanboy taking a break from flossing his teeth with Lance's short and curlies.

 

[Bilirubin]

You exaggerate the claims made here in order to diminish the actual points. It's a PR firm, yes, but one tied integrally with Armstrong. This same firm seeds discussion boards and has the same employees jumping in the comments on Armstrong articles. To be fair, other PR firms are doing this as well these days.

CIA or Mossad? Hardly. Insidious? Surely.

It's a delusion. How many followers does Armstrong have on twitter? How many fans does he have around the world? He doesn't need people to go on cycling message boards that appeal to only a small section of people. It's a misunderstanding of how PR firms work. You and others have convinced yourselves by repetition this is true.

 

[TexPat]

It's a delusion. How many followers does Armstrong have on twitter? He many fans does he have around the world? He doesn't need people to go on cycling message boards that appeal to only a small section of people. It's a misunderstanding of how PR firms work. You and others have convinced yourselves by repetition this is true.

Oh, the irony!

 

[Bilirubin]

Funny story about Armstrong's jet.

If you spread gossip about what someone gets up to at training camps, store obscure pictures of his friends and associations on your computer (why?), talk about his favorite drink, spread rumors about his private jet, not to mention believe in a conspiracy theory about their PR firm and charity, then it's not surprisng if someone terms you an "obsessed hater".

Dude, you really need to take a step back. It doesn't look good.

 

[Cimacoppi49]

Do you think Jonathan Littman at the Huffington Post is a PR flack for Armstrong? I suggested as much and he did not approve my comments.

 

[Bilirubin]

Is LiveStrong a scam? No, but it's hardly a top-notch charity by any metric.

The thing is, that's not true. Most charity experts say it's one of the best out there and has done a huge amount to unite the other cancer charities. Armstrong does a lot of work behind the scenes that he simply wouldn't have to do if what some assert is true.

Recent article here:
http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/150/can-livestrong-survive-lance.html

If the case against Armstrong is so good then people shouldn't have to lapse into delusion and frankly sociopathic behaviors to bolster this case. It's not as black and white as the more paranoid obsessive critics would have you believe. The world is full of grey.

 

[CowboyTx]

dude, you really need to take a step back. It doesn't look good.

double time on a sunday?

 

[TubularBills]

Do you think Jonathan Littman at the Huffington Post is a PR flack for Armstrong? I suggested as much and he did not approve my comments.

It is after all just a Blog by a Columnist and Ghostwriter, but here's the gem - the entire Blog post is subjective and personal blather, because his key witness:

"But what about the leaked federal claims that Armstrong and teammates cheated their way to seven Tour de France victories? Myers had no comment on the doping allegations, but also said she was unconvinced that the team dominated because of prohibited blood transfusions or banned substances."

Obviously, she wasn't on the bus.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jonathan-littman/wheres-lance-armstrongs-f_b_783987.html

But he definitely has a hard on for Pharmstrong:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jonathan-littman

hard to gue$$ hi$ motivation$

 

[Cimacoppi49]

The thing is, that's not true. Most charity experts say it's one of the best out there and has done a huge amount to unite the other cancer charities. Armstrong does a lot of work behind the scenes that he simply wouldn't have to do if what some assert is true.

Recent article here:
http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/150/can-livestrong-survive-lance.html

If the case against Armstrong is so good then people shouldn't have to lapse into delusion and frankly sociopathic behaviors to bolster this case. It's not as black and white as the more paranoid obsessive critics would have you believe. The world is full of grey.

The Lance Armstrong Foundation (LAF), founded by the champion bicyclist and cancer survivor of the same name, is celebrating its 10-year anniversary this year. Wouldn’t you think a charity that receives massive publicity for having one of the most popular causes and most admired celebrities as the face of the organization would be able to easily raise lots of money? Unfortunately this is not the case. LAF spent as much as $45 to raise each $100, exceeding AIP’s 35% recommended fundraising ceiling by a significant margin. While LAF had difficulty raising contributions efficiently, it did prove to be a savvy merchandise marketer. LAF sold over $24 million in merchandise, including the ubiquitous yellow “LIVESTRONG” wristband, as well as clothing, sports gear and even dog leashes. Yet after spending $10 million in solicitation costs, the group brought in only $22 million in contributions, according to AIP’s analysis of LAF’s 2005 financial statements.

http://www.charitywatch.org/articles/cancer.html

 

[D-Queued]

The thing is, that's not true. Most charity experts say it's one of the best out there and has done a huge amount to unite the other cancer charities. Armstrong does a lot of work behind the scenes that he simply wouldn't have to do if what some assert is true.

Recent article here:
http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/150/can-livestrong-survive-lance.html

If the case against Armstrong is so good then people shouldn't have to lapse into delusion and frankly sociopathic behaviors to bolster this case. It's not as black and white as the more paranoid obsessive critics would have you believe. The world is full of grey.

This is perfect PR strategy. Try and smear the other side with what you are guilty of...

Lance is a sociopath. He is a textbook case.

Trying to turn that around on a group of unspecified 'people' isn't just sociopathic ("negative consequences are often blamed on society"), it is desperate.

Dave.