The Official LANCE ARMSTRONG Thread 2010-2011

[thehog]

Thank-you. Truth be told he's going home for a mountain bike race for which he's being paid & two speaking engagements which also
carry a payment.

If travel & being away from family is a problem then why go
to SA?

There's more to this.

His training is all over the place. There seems to be no order or routine. It all comes back to what 'our Hog' has said (at least i think it was him), you'd have to question whether Lance actually believes he can win in July, and maybe, having accepted that he won't win, this is all, even more than before, about money. Maybe he realises that even if he were to murder himself and live like the monk, that the top guys do anyway, he still won't challenge. To realise that even his 2001 figures would not have beaten AC, must surely make him realise the futility of this eight quest.
Now that he is not entitled to ***** at AC any longer, for not obeying team orders, what will his issue this year? Media, French, only about cancer awareness.....

Incidentally, is this the same guy who didn't see his children for months at a time in 2004 / 2005, because if his Hollywood liefstyle with Sherly. And that's coming from Stephanie McIllvain.

 

[this_is_edie]

Is Ferrari planning a trip to the US soon?

 

[Publicus]

I think it is pretty rich that maartens said that Lance needs more stage races than one day races.

 

[patricknd]

If a rider has a well documented history of doping like Armstrong does then it only makes sense that the rider should get chosen more often.

can't really do that if it's random.

 

[cyclopeon]

Funny how the entire team got a bug and they brought in their own water and chef (and I presume food) for the Tour of Flanders. So they brought the bug with them.

It must have been in the air. So next time they'll bring their own air too.

 

[thehog]

I think it is pretty rich that maartens said that Lance needs more stage races than one day races.

Seeing that dreadful display at CI where he went backwards on an 11km climb & he's done zero training in the Alps to come out & beat Contador or actually climb the big mountains come July - yeah right. No chance. If he does he's the biggest fraud that walked this earth. There is no way he should be able to climb with the best from doing zero training on the high mountain passes of France.

 

[this_is_edie]

Seeing that dreadful display at CI where he went backwards on an 11km climb & he's done zero training in the Alps to come out & beat Contador or actually climb the big mountains come July - yeah right. No chance. If he does he's the biggest fraud that walked this earth. There is no way he should be able to climb with the best from doing zero training on the high mountain passes of France.

That's one thing I don't understand. Part of the mythology is that he trains harder than anyone else and recons all the stages to be ready for the Tour. Not so this year, why not? Why doesn't he feel the need to continue with the myth?

 

[Escarabajo]

can't really do that if it's random.

He was replying to the Polish "wink wink". Meaning it was not Random but part of a French Conspiracy.

 

[Publicus]

Seeing that dreadful display at CI where he went backwards on an 11km climb & he's done zero training in the Alps to come out & beat Contador or actually climb the big mountains come July - yeah right. No chance. If he does he's the biggest fraud that walked this earth. There is no way he should be able to climb with the best from doing zero training on the high mountain passes of France.

I agree. It's not like there haven't been a few stage races that he's
passed over. I have no idea what it is he is doing, but nothing he is doing on the road will justify him having magical form in July. Absolutely nothing.

 

[Publicus]

That's one thing I don't understand. Part of the mythology is that he trains harder than anyone else and recons all the stages to be ready for the Tour. Not so this year, why not? Why doesn't he feel the need to continue with the myth?

I honestly don't think his heart is in it anymore. He's 38, makes most of his money for not cycling and knows he has a very small chance of success in July. Everyday I find Ravens and others contention that he's going to figure a way to bow out gracefully before the Tour.

 

[BroDeal]

can't really do that if it's random.

If you believe the bio passport system--Yeah, right! --is working then not all randoms should be random. The testers should be using passport data to do more tests on those with suspicious numbers. Armstrong's Tour numbers were as suspicious as them come.

 

[altark123]

Well now he says he is sick as a dog so it will be interesting to see what happens.

 

[Ferminal]

Well now he says he is sick as a dog so it will be interesting to see what happens.

Must have rode his system into the ground to get that top30 spot in Flanders.

I'm not surprised at him being sick, given the weight loss regime.

 

[Publicus]

Well now he says he is sick as a dog so it will be interesting to see what happens.

My guess is he pulls out of Sarthe. He didn race MSR because of illness, so I can't see why he would stick around.

 

[Polish]

Lance has won FW and podiumed LBL & AGR

I honestly don't think his heart is in it anymore. He's 38, makes most of his money for not cycling and knows he has a very small chance of success in July. Everyday I find Ravens and others contention that he's going to figure a way to bow out gracefully before the Tour.

+1 Publicus.

And I think you are closer to the reason for a TdF no-show than Raven - cuz Raven really has not explained his reasoning for the no-show prediction. He was thinking physical issues not mental ones?

And BTW, building a PineWood Derby car with your kid IS more important than riding the AGR, FW, or LBL. At least for Lance. I think he has come to this realization only recently too. The ssdd bordy "random" drug test may have done it?

 

[Phlakaton]

His training is all over the place. There seems to be no order or routine. It all comes back to what 'our Hog' has said (at least i think it was him), you'd have to question whether Lance actually believes he can win in July, and maybe, having accepted that he won't win, this is all, even more than before, about money. Maybe he realises that even if he were to murder himself and live like the monk, that the top guys do anyway, he still won't challenge. To realise that even his 2001 figures would not have beaten AC, must surely make him realise the futility of this eight quest.
Now that he is not entitled to ***** at AC any longer, for not obeying team orders, what will his issue this year? Media, French, only about cancer awareness.....

Incidentally, is this the same guy who didn't see his children for months at a time in 2004 / 2005, because if his Hollywood liefstyle with Sherly. And that's coming from Stephanie McIllvain.

I havent been on these forums for long and I dont know anyone's posting history or background. I do find it funny though that so much commentary is tossed around about someone like Lance Armstrong and his training routine. He is the only one who truly knows what he needs - he's been doing it for how long? Would I presume to know anything about decisions he makes to get into July in peak form? No way. Does he go to the TDF to lose? I would assume - no way. That is something just not in his DNA if I was to guess. I will go out on a limb and say - some part of him says he can win the TDF again. He is up against some serious stuff with Contador but he is a brilliant race reader and a mental juggernaut. Contador showed a lot of class last year handling Armstrong but I would never give him any less attention simply because of age. Old men can be dangerous. His personal life holds no interest to me. It's what he does on the bike. It's like Tiger Woods. I couldnt care less about his wife or kids... it's Sunday on the course that entertains me.

 

[Berzin]

Seeing that dreadful display at CI where he went backwards on an 11km climb & he's done zero training in the Alps to come out & beat Contador or actually climb the big mountains come July - yeah right. No chance. If he does he's the biggest fraud that walked this earth. There is no way he should be able to climb with the best from doing zero training on the high mountain passes of France.

Yes, but then he shows up at Flanders looking like he had liposuction and puts in a decent showing. He was not a contender by any means but he certainly didn't embarrass himself either.

My question is, how does this happen? How did he go from bloated and lethargic to unbloated and fast so quickly?

As for you giving him zero chance at the Tour, I honestly believe he's going to put in a strong showing. What will make me jump up and down is with his early season preparation, there will be no logical explanation for it. Therefore the myth will grow by leaps and bounds and the fanboys will go crazy,causing an obnoxious subset of our population to become absolutely insufferable.

If he wins, he's a hero to aging yuppies everywhere. If he places anywhere in the top ten then he did great for an old man. Whatever happens he can't lose and he knows it.

This will be terrible for cycling, but I see it happening. I just wish his year in the European peloton (which will be his last I hope) ends quickly so he can just go away.

 

[wattage]

At CI Lance didn't go all-out on that final climb. And his Flanders-form did look good, maybe the guy actually has a shot at a podium in Paris. Maybe Ferrari has some new tricks up his sleeve this year and put some wonderdrug under Lance's hood.

 

[BroDeal]

Yes, but then he shows up at Flanders looking like he had liposuction and puts in a decent showing. He was not a contender by any means but he certainly didn't embarrass himself either.

My question is, how does this happen?

A cynical person might suspect that bouts of gastroenteritus are convenient and pre-made excuses to explain variations in blood values.

 

[this_is_edie]

A cynical person might suspect that bouts of gastroenteritus are convenient and pre-made excuses to explain variations in blood values.

and/or very fast weight loss.

 

[flicker]

I honestly don't think his heart is in it anymore. He's 38, makes most of his money for not cycling and knows he has a very small chance of success in July. Everyday I find Ravens and others contention that he's going to figure a way to bow out gracefully before the Tour.

Hey Publicus, call up Johann. Maybe you can help Lance.

 

[Oldman]

A cynical person might suspect that bouts of gastroenteritus are convenient and pre-made excuses to explain variations in blood values.

He's old school. He's packin' a couple of tapeworms. They're unpredictable eaters. Don't know why the skinny guys would get sick.

 

[flicker]

I don't know about tapeworms but I had roundworms while racing in Mexico.

Its great, you can eat as much as you want and lose weight. Kinda hard to do to much though, sort of like having a low grade pnemonia. Maybe like mono?

Parasites are kinda funny like that. Amoebic dissentary and cholera are not so good also.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

+1 Publicus.

And I think you are closer to the reason for a TdF no-show than Raven - cuz Raven really has not explained his reasoning for the no-show prediction. He was thinking physical issues not mental ones?

And BTW, building a PineWood Derby car with your kid IS more important than riding the AGR, FW, or LBL. At least for Lance. I think he has come to this realization only recently too. The ssdd bordy "random" drug test may have done it?

I think you're right!! As it is the only race he has a chance of winning this year.

Actually, on a serious note - just heard he has dropped out of Circuit de la Sarthe.

 

[Ninety5rpm]

Actually, on a serious note - just heard he has dropped out of Circuit de la Sarthe.

I'm shocked! Not..