The Official LANCE ARMSTRONG Thread 2010-2011

[Mont Ventoux]

OK, I understand.

How do I become one?

A Mod or a Knob?

 

[Mont Ventoux]

7 versus 3

Five months do not wash away his hatred for Alberto.
As long as someone stands in his way of #8, the same someone will be
hated with as evil a dark hate that this texan cowpoke can muster.

Poor Alberto, he only wants to win his third, can't that texan understand that 7 is a bigger number than 3???

 

[WonderLance]

Five months do not wash away his hatred for Alberto.
As long as someone stands in his way of #8, the same someone will be
hated with as evil a dark hate that this texan cowpoke can muster.

Poor Alberto, he only wants to win his third, can't that texan understand that 7 is a bigger number than 3???

you appear to be very angry about something. Why all the hate?

 

[Barrus]

I bought the Cycling Weekly guide to the Tour so that I would have route maps and what not for looking at.

There is a brief article on Contador and in it the writers make the point of saying Armstrong makes no attempt to hide his dislike of Contador. Followed by this quote from the Texan ..........


“He’s just a Spanish guy who has always lived in the same village, and he has his friends, his family, the street where he grew up, his country, his people ......... but he’s surrounded by yes-men”


Really??

This is the reason you choose to dis-like someone and try to bring the world's media down on them? Really?

What this says to me ( ignoring the sheer idiocy of his "yes-men" comment) is that Contador is a man comfortable with who he is and where he came from. A man surrounded by friends and family who he trusts and who will not lie to him or cheat him.

A man grounded and solid.

What it also says is that Armstrong is none of those things, and has none of those things. That without his constant need to appear in print he would simply blow away.

Armstrong appears to be unwilling to accept that he could be beaten by a simple man, rather than by a private jet jockey.

And, really? Contador is surrounded by yes-men? Lance, you need to look around you.

Pretty shallow reasons for the hate.

No the reasons for the hate are different.
1 Bertie is naturally better than LA ever was
2 Bertie didn't want to work with the plan to win LA another tour de france

 

[hughmoore]

It doesnt matter, Lance will win this year then retire.

Bertie will eventually overtake Lance's eight TDF wins in the years to come.

Both are great riders and winners.

Haters can hate as much as they like, but we dont care about haters.

Regards



Hugh

 

[Barracuda]

Wtf

To the OP ...

In this years RIDE magazine Tour guide in an interview with Contador the interviewer asks " Have you forgiven him?" (In relation to Lance V Contador @Astana circa 2009). Contadors reply was " But I have nothing to forgive him for".

Looks like they have moved on to me ...

So WHATS YOUR POINT ??????

 

[online-rider]

Great sports people need to taunt each other -I'ts just part of the game. We're not playing checkers after all. If Alberto and Lance want to throw abuse at each other thats just fine. After all, you don't hear Tyson praising the virtues of his opponents before a bout.
As I remember it the peleton is no place for softies

 

[boianchimoon]

Great sports people need to taunt each other -I'ts just part of the game. We're not playing checkers after all. If Alberto and Lance want to throw abuse at each other thats just fine. After all, you don't hear Tyson praising the virtues of his opponents before a bout.
As I remember it the peleton is no place for softies

Exactly, it's a competition, being friendly/respectful has nothing to do with it, when the competition stops the respect usually comes back, but in world class competition respecting your opponent during the fight is a weakness. Let battle continue and we can enjoy not only the game but the psychology of the game, but when it's all over it will have been just another bike race.

 

[Mellow Velo]

OK, I understand.

How do I become one?

I come here for the comedy. Wonderful WonderLance!
Great finish on the Finnish, Mont Vent.

On topic: Armstrong.....................................................

 

[Barrus]

Exactly, it's a competition, being friendly/respectful has nothing to do with it, when the competition stops the respect usually comes back, but in world class competition respecting your opponent during the fight is a weakness. Let battle continue and we can enjoy not only the game but the psychology of the game, but when it's all over it will have been just another bike race.

Sorry, but I don't understand this, it is of the utmost importance to respect your adversary during the fight and in cycling especially this is understood. Tounting doens't really happen that often in cycling most of the riders are respecful of each other and are genuinely concerned about the other riders and at times impressed and do mention this to the media. Actually Armstrong is one of the few riders that I know of that truly throws around abuse concerning other riders, not often that other riders act in such a manner. WHich is mainly one of the reasons I like this sport

 

[theswordsman]

I bought the Cycling Weekly guide to the Tour so that I would have route maps and what not for looking at.

There is a brief article on Contador and in it the writers make the point of saying Armstrong makes no attempt to hide his dislike of Contador. Followed by this quote from the Texan ..........


“He’s just a Spanish guy who has always lived in the same village, and he has his friends, his family, the street where he grew up, his country, his people ......... but he’s surrounded by yes-men”


Really??

This is the reason you choose to dis-like someone and try to bring the world's media down on them? Really?

What this says to me ( ignoring the sheer idiocy of his "yes-men" comment) is that Contador is a man comfortable with who he is and where he came from. A man surrounded by friends and family who he trusts and who will not lie to him or cheat him.

A man grounded and solid.

What it also says is that Armstrong is none of those things, and has none of those things. That without his constant need to appear in print he would simply blow away.

Armstrong appears to be unwilling to accept that he could be beaten by a simple man, rather than by a private jet jockey.

And, really? Contador is surrounded by yes-men? Lance, you need to look around you.

Pretty shallow reasons for the hate.

The quotes are just part of a really ugly interview from late last year in Nieuwsblad and Telegraaf. He said that the Spanish press printed lies from Alberto, & called them vulgar names. His one example was the Time Trial wheels, which was covered here in a couple of Wheel Gate threads. He said that in Contador's place, he would have done whatever it took to keep is teammates (ignoring the facts that Contador was trying to leave Astana, and that Bruyneel was getting guys out of their 2010 contracts, etc.) He took 12 of Contador's teammates, then blamed him in the press for not keeping them? There was more rubbish as well, and then he projected himself onto Contador and accused him of things that he was guilty of. He even paraphrased the line about not respecting him as anything other than a cyclist. It was the ugliest interview I've ever read, and a total load of ********, and English speaking press just rubber stamped it.

 

[khardung la]

Yeah this is old stuff. What still amazes me is that thing of "living in the same village" etc...It looks like Contador is from an obscure little village somewhere in the mountains living with bears and wolves....He is from Pinto, a city of 50.000 people at less than 20 Km from Madrid, a multicultural and thriving capital of about 3.5 million in the +6 million Madrid region, which accounts for almost the 25% of the economy of a country that is 8th in GDP in the World.

I mean, Armstrong is not only an ignorant, he is also an ignorant with bad intention.

BTW, if Contador would be from a obscure little village that would be very fine to me. And that would not change the fact that Contador can easily beat Armstrong's a$$$$ in any steep hill at any time.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Great sports people need to taunt each other -I'ts just part of the game.

Do they? Did Big Mig abuse the competition the way Armstrong does? Is Contador doing it? Apart from the one interview at the end of last year's Tour, when he finally cracked and opened his mouth after three weeks of silence in the face of extreme provocation, when have we heard Contador taunting?

Sometimes, great sportsmen are great sportsmen and just get on with their job. Armstrong's method isn't a template, it's just illustrative of one way of doing it.

 

[saganftw]

you mean wolrd of cycling is not a happy place where everybody loves everybody? who knew

 

[peloton]

Yeah this is old stuff. What still amazes me is that thing of "living in the same village" etc...It looks like Contador is from an obscure little village somewhere in the mountains living with bears and wolves....He is from Pinto, a city of 50.000 people at less than 20 Km from Madrid, a multicultural and thriving capital of about 3.5 million in the +6 million Madrid region, which accounts for almost the 25% of the economy of a country that is 8th in GDP in the World.

I mean, Armstrong is not only an ignorant, he is also an ignorant with bad intention.

BTW, if Contador would be from a obscure little village that would be very fine to me. And that would not change the fact that Contador can easily beat Armstrong's a$$$$ in any steep hill at any time.

+1

well said.

 

[online-rider]

Do they? Did Big Mig abuse the competition the way Armstrong does? Is Contador doing it? Apart from the one interview at the end of last year's Tour, when he finally cracked and opened his mouth after three weeks of silence in the face of extreme provocation, when have we heard Contador taunting?

Sometimes, great sportsmen are great sportsmen and just get on with their job. Armstrong's method isn't a template, it's just illustrative of one way of doing it.

Yeah youre right big mig was a real gennlemin. But I still like it when the sports greats bait each other a little with the exceoption of cricketers sledging which is really vulgar. Armstrong said some bloody nice things about contador on twitter this spring so I think the media has ran with this a bit too much i'd blame the magazines

 

[SpartacusRox]

OK, I understand.

How do I become one?

You need to Mount Ventoux

 

[montagna lunga]

Great sports people need to taunt each other -I'ts just part of the game. We're not playing checkers after all. If Alberto and Lance want to throw abuse at each other thats just fine. After all, you don't hear Tyson praising the virtues of his opponents before a bout.
As I remember it the peleton is no place for softies

Ridiculous bull**** from someone who grew up thinking Charles Barkley was "cool"?

Peloton may be no place for softies, so we think (and accept) relentless trash talk as acceptable ????

 

[Potomac]

storm in a tea cup

 

[forty four]

I bought the Cycling Weekly guide to the Tour so that I would have route maps and what not for looking at.

There is a brief article on Contador and in it the writers make the point of saying Armstrong makes no attempt to hide his dislike of Contador. Followed by this quote from the Texan ..........


“He’s just a Spanish guy who has always lived in the same village, and he has his friends, his family, the street where he grew up, his country, his people ......... but he’s surrounded by yes-men”


Really??

This is the reason you choose to dis-like someone and try to bring the world's media down on them? Really?

What this says to me ( ignoring the sheer idiocy of his "yes-men" comment) is that Contador is a man comfortable with who he is and where he came from. A man surrounded by friends and family who he trusts and who will not lie to him or cheat him.

A man grounded and solid.

What it also says is that Armstrong is none of those things, and has none of those things. That without his constant need to appear in print he would simply blow away.

Armstrong appears to be unwilling to accept that he could be beaten by a simple man, rather than by a private jet jockey.

And, really? Contador is surrounded by yes-men? Lance, you need to look around you.

Pretty shallow reasons for the hate.

true a very a weak argument for disliking contador who seems a some what quite individual which i like. not a big talker like la and others less ego problems. if i was in contadors situation i would do the same surround myself with people who were there for me before the fame and $ came those are real friends not paid yes men which la is surrounded by. kinda ironic those statements coming from lance of all people

 

[roundabout]

Yep, as if his majesty is sorrounded by critical thinkers.

 

[guilder]

Again nothing more than Lance haters talking about Lance hating posts about Lance hating tabloid written by Lance haters.

 

[ustabe]

“He’s just a Spanish guy who has always lived in the same village, and he has his friends, his family, the street where he grew up, his country, his people ......... but he’s surrounded by yes-men”

Armstrong's just jealous because he had to go out and recruit his own yes-men.

Armstrong would show a lot more class if he just turned off the Twitter and rode his bike.

 

[WonderLance]

Lets get this thread back on the main page, it makes me sad when all this Lance isnt there for people to see.

Did everyone see Lance on the TV yesterday? It was great and he looked like it was really easy for him. I wa expecting him just to unleash some awesome chuck norris style power, but then Asterix or whatever his name is slowed the bunch before Lance could drop everyone.

Anyway, its good cos it will be more of a excitement when he dominates on the pavel tonight. the only problem that I have is that phil and Paul do not talk about Lance enough and they explain cycling in a very complicated way so its hard for me to understand. I know that they are professionals and htey know lots about cycling but they should dumb it down a bit so the fans can understand.

Cant wait for tonight. LIVESTRONG

 

[auscyclefan94]

Lets get this thread back on the main page, it makes me sad when all this Lance isnt there for people to see.

Did everyone see Lance on the TV yesterday? It was great and he looked like it was really easy for him. I wa expecting him just to unleash some awesome chuck norris style power, but then Asterix or whatever his name is slowed the bunch before Lance could drop everyone.

Anyway, its good cos it will be more of a excitement when he dominates on the pavel tonight. the only problem that I have is that phil and Paul do not talk about Lance enough and they explain cycling in a very complicated way so its hard for me to understand. I know that they are professionals and htey know lots about cycling but they should dumb it down a bit so the fans can understand.

Cant wait for tonight. LIVESTRONG

The same routine over and over again gets funnier every time!