The Official LANCE ARMSTRONG Thread 2010-2011

[flicker]

Is this a view the Cycling News moderators support?

The answer is yes all disrespect against Lance Armstrong is sanctified by the moderators of cyclingnews forum. example Imbatidos avitar.

 

[Race Radio]

Is this a view the Cycling News moderators support?

The answer is yes all disrespect against Lance Armstrong is sanctified by the moderators of cyclingnews forum. example Imbatidos avitar.

If all you want if fawning adoration of the myth just watch Versus, here you get reality.

 

[Barrus]

If all you want if fawning adoration of the myth just watch Versus, here you get reality.

With a hefty dose of cynicism

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Is this a view the Cycling News moderators support?

The answer is yes all disrespect against Lance Armstrong is sanctified by the moderators of cyclingnews forum. example Imbatidos avitar.

Actually, this board is very well moderated.

If you want to see what happens when knuckleheads moderate message boards, head over to RBR and watch Coolhand at work.

 

[ManInFull]

Just watched parts again and it looked like AC bridged to LA's group and then left it with a small group. LA wasn't looking comfy and relied on Popo to pull him until he was spent. Alberto looked to come through this test pretty well including riding a soft rear tire to the finish.

Yes, AC did one heck of a job bridging to LA's group just as LA punctured. That was more impressive than what LA did

 

[ManInFull]

Just watched parts again and it looked like AC bridged to LA's group and then left it with a small group. LA wasn't looking comfy and relied on Popo to pull him until he was spent. Alberto looked to come through this test pretty well including riding a soft rear tire to the finish.

If all you want if fawning adoration of the myth just watch Versus, here you get reality.

Did you watch Versus' review of last year's TdF. Clearly, if AC had only been a better teammate and obeyed Lance, Lance would have done better in the Tour. Ha! Versus never bothered to show things from AC's perspective. They didn't even bother to talk about how crazy it is to have to GC contenders like those two on the same team.

 

[theswordsman]

Found this photo of Lance and AC from Twitter.
This is perfect for one of those "create a caption" contests.
http://yfrog.com/3uzb0j

One of my twitter friends retweeted this, so I started circulating it as best I could. Cyclingnewsfeed and Cyclingweekly retweeted what I sent them, others copied that, and when I went back to check, the photo seemed to be missing from the original source. I had a couple of yellow banders reply to me, one saying that I was really stretching things (by suggesting there might be bullying going on) and the other said something like "highly unlikely".

I sent it as a courtesy to Joe Lindsey of Boulder Report, and he replied good, now Lance has one like the one of Contador smirking over a handshake at the Tour de France course presentation.
To me there's a difference between reaching to shake hands with a guy who did everything LA did to Alberto, and trying to mess with a guy on the pave stage of the Tour.

 

[metaCYCLE]

there never were two real GT contenders in last year's Astana...

 

[flicker]

If all you want if fawning adoration of the myth just watch Versus, here you get reality.

I will tell you though the versus tour tracker is well worth the money. Live unadulterated cycling news casting. Well worth the money.
With Phil and Paul I read the truth with them, as I read between the lines. They are subtle, they say many other things besides the adoration of Lance. Like I said it is a different newscast on tour tracker.

 

[MacRoadie]

I will tell you though the versus tour tracker is well worth the money. Live unadulterated cycling news casting. Well worth the money.
With Phil and Paul I read the truth with them, as I read between the lines. They are subtle, they say many other things besides the adoration of Lance. Like I said it is a different newscast on tour tracker.

I think i just threw up in my mouth...

 

[flicker]

I think i just threw up in my mouth...

thats ok. I channelled 911 Joe Papp to do CPR on you. You will have help in about 3 years.

 

[Hugh Januss]

I think i just threw up in my mouth...

Sometimes I can't help but think that flicker is just a creation of Polish's that he uses when he wants to say something really crazy.

 

[kurtinsc]

Just watched parts again and it looked like AC bridged to LA's group and then left it with a small group. LA wasn't looking comfy and relied on Popo to pull him until he was spent. Alberto looked to come through this test pretty well including riding a soft rear tire to the finish.

I believe lance stated in his post race interview that he was on his limit on the cobbles, even without the puncture. My guess is the puncture didn't keep him from hanging with Contador's group... it kept him from the Kreuziger group. I don't think he'd be able to go with Vino/Contador/Menchov/Wiggins when they split.

I think it cost him all of 22 seconds (but possibly some energy reserves as well).

As it stands... barring crashes from both Andy and Alberto, Lance has no more chance to win. He only had a very small chance to begin with... but he needed a minute or so gain here... not a minute loss to AC and two minutes to AS.

Lance needs to be realistic and start racing for 3rd. He needs to just let Schleck or Contador go if they attack rather then killing himself to try to keep up. He needs to look for ways to gain time on Evans, Wiggins, Menchov, Kreuziger and the rest of the other riders... force them to work to chase Schleck and Contador and tire... then attack for time.

He showed in Grand Bornand last year that he's still capable of that. When Contador, the Schlecks and Kloden went up the rode... he let Wiggins and Vandevelde kill themselves chasing... then when they were gassed he attacked to gain time (dropping Nibali while doing so, though he reconnected on the descent). Evans has a history of trying too hard to stick with better climbers and cracking. Menchov has a history of falling. This strategy could get him another 3rd.

But first is gone unless Andy and Contador ride off the side of a mountain.

 

[Big GMaC]

He could go for polkas

 

[Kender]

Anyway, its good cos it will be more of a excitement when he dominates on the pavel tonight.

Not sure about dominate, but i think he was delayed last night because he wanted to own some pave and he lost time while trying to dig some up. the puncture excuse was so he had time to dig

 

[MacRoadie]

Loved the comment by Phil as Popo and LA entered the last stretch of pave', and Armstrong started to pull ahead of Popo. "Just look at the power of Armstrong!", he cried, after Popo had literally ridden himself into the ground for the last 15k trying to reconnect Armstrong with Contador.

Tough job pulling away from a man who's tongue is dragging on his chainring...

 

[hrotha]

LA looked like he had no idea how to ride on the cobbles. Like he would crash any time. He wasn't doing THAT bad before the puncture so I guess it was more an impression than reality, but still.

 

[Anonymous]

Sometimes I can't help but think that flicker is just a creation of Polish's that he uses when he wants to say something really crazy.

No way flicker is writing anything but pure satire, pure brilliant satire.

 

[flicker]

I believe lance stated in his post race interview that he was on his limit on the cobbles, even without the puncture. My guess is the puncture didn't keep him from hanging with Contador's group... it kept him from the Kreuziger group. I don't think he'd be able to go with Vino/Contador/Menchov/Wiggins when they split.

I think it cost him all of 22 seconds (but possibly some energy reserves as well).

As it stands... barring crashes from both Andy and Alberto, Lance has no more chance to win. He only had a very small chance to begin with... but he needed a minute or so gain here... not a minute loss to AC and two minutes to AS.

Lance needs to be realistic and start racing for 3rd. He needs to just let Schleck or Contador go if they attack rather then killing himself to try to keep up. He needs to look for ways to gain time on Evans, Wiggins, Menchov, Kreuziger and the rest of the other riders... force them to work to chase Schleck and Contador and tire... then attack for time.

He showed in Grand Bornand last year that he's still capable of that. When Contador, the Schlecks and Kloden went up the rode... he let Wiggins and Vandevelde kill themselves chasing... then when they were gassed he attacked to gain time (dropping Nibali while doing so, though he reconnected on the descent). Evans has a history of trying too hard to stick with better climbers and cracking. Menchov has a history of falling. This strategy could get him another 3rd.

But first is gone unless Andy and Contador ride off the side of a mountain.

Lance needed 5 minutes minimum at the end of today to win the tour. He is finished. I even read it on the radioshack site.

 

[Publicus]

I believe lance stated in his post race interview that he was on his limit on the cobbles, even without the puncture. My guess is the puncture didn't keep him from hanging with Contador's group... it kept him from the Kreuziger group. I don't think he'd be able to go with Vino/Contador/Menchov/Wiggins when they split.

I think it cost him all of 22 seconds (but possibly some energy reserves as well).

As it stands... barring crashes from both Andy and Alberto, Lance has no more chance to win. He only had a very small chance to begin with... but he needed a minute or so gain here... not a minute loss to AC and two minutes to AS.

Lance needs to be realistic and start racing for 3rd. He needs to just let Schleck or Contador go if they attack rather then killing himself to try to keep up. He needs to look for ways to gain time on Evans, Wiggins, Menchov, Kreuziger and the rest of the other riders... force them to work to chase Schleck and Contador and tire... then attack for time.

He showed in Grand Bornand last year that he's still capable of that. When Contador, the Schlecks and Kloden went up the rode... he let Wiggins and Vandevelde kill themselves chasing... then when they were gassed he attacked to gain time (dropping Nibali while doing so, though he reconnected on the descent). Evans has a history of trying too hard to stick with better climbers and cracking. Menchov has a history of falling. This strategy could get him another 3rd.

But first is gone unless Andy and Contador ride off the side of a mountain.

I think it's a bit too early to write Armstrong's obituary. I remember in the Giro when everyone knew that Basso was out of it after the Strade stage. Grand tours are funny things. Stages were nothing is suppose to happen (yesterday or tomorrow) are huge. Stages that are supposed to be something special aren't.

I certainly don't think you are unreasonable in your thoughts (and I share many of them). I just am leery about write him off at this stage.

 

[Anonymous]

I think it's a bit too early to write Armstrong's obituary. I remember in the Giro when everyone knew that Basso was out of it after the Strade stage. Grand tours are funny things. Stages were nothing is suppose to happen (yesterday or tomorrow) are huge. Stages that are supposed to be something special aren't.

Look, I don't think anyone will mistake me for a fanboy, but I not only believe he still has a shot, I think he has a good shot. He is obviously stronger than last year, and he wasn't that far off last year. I also think that it is more than a 3 man race this year. That third week should be great fun.

 

[Publicus]

Look, I don't think anyone will mistake me for a fanboy, but I not only believe he still has a shot, I think he has a good shot. He is obviously stronger than last year, and he wasn't that far off last year. I also think that it is more than a 3 man race this year. That third week should be great fun.

You and me both. There are still 17 stages to go.

 

[Parrot23]

Also Riis really ruing the loss of Frank might show who he thinks has the better form of Frank and Andy. If Shack has more guys in the mountains it's going to make the podium fight a big one yet. Second to fifth in this Tour might be one of the best we've seen in a while.

Remember the one mountain stage in a former Tour when Lance nearly lost it from dehydration but limited his losses.

NB: I'm disinclined to believe that photo above in the age of PhotoShop. Two me it looks like two superimposed images. (I think the riders' figures are cut out from the background: look at the edges).

 

[Publicus]

Also Riis really ruing the loss of Frank might show who he thinks has the better form of Frank and Andy. If Shack has more guys in the mountains it's going to make the podium fight a big one yet. Second to fifth in this Tour might be one of the best we've seen in a while.

Remember the one mountain stage in a former Tour when Lance nearly lost it from dehydration but limited his losses.

Strangely (IMO), folks think the loss of Frank is a good thing for Andy. I'm not of that opinion. I think the significance of the loss will become apparent this weekend. And definitely in the third week.

 

[ColumbusSL]

NB: I'm disinclined to believe that photo above in the age of PhotoShop. Two me it looks like two superimposed images. (I think the riders' figures are cut out from the background: look at the edges).

Dude!! are you serious?!! it is not like he has not done this sort of thing before!! It is not like he is the only one to try and put a bit testosterone into the show!!! The guy is a pr!ck - a hard pr!ck, but still a pr!ck- deal with it! ...even his friends don't describe him as warm and fuzzy!