The Official LANCE ARMSTRONG Thread 2010-2011

[Publicus]

The new Armstrong article is absolutely hilarious. It's a ham-fisted attempt to get AC to engage him in this so-called build up/rivalry/showdown. He purposely went to Marca to make sure that everyone in Spain reads this, especially AC.

As a wise man from America once said: SSDD.

What a joke of a man he has become. (And I hope AC understands that Bruyneel is full of sh!t and isn't buying into his recent charm offensive).

 

[Publicus]

Well, according to Graham Watson (the legendary photographer) on Tw@tter:

"been a great day for fans of Lance, never seen so much excitement down here. Can he repeat it on Old Willunga Hill...?"

and

"pity there was not 'live' TV here, Shack's attack was worthy of anything 'Postal did in '99 Tour - remember the Passage du Gois..?"


Well, as there was no live TV I guess we'll have to take his unbiased word for it. Or is it on the highlights?

I'm going to guess that Graham, Phil and Paul had a nice circle jerk to this imagery. It's 1999 all over again. Lance Armstrong has recaptured his youth!

 

[Ripper]

I'm going to guess that Graham, Phil and Paul had a nice circle jerk to this imagery. It's 1999 all over again. Lance Armstrong has recaptured his youth!

Now that was a mental image I didn't need!

 

[Ripper]

And I hope AC understands that Bruyneel is full of sh!t and isn't buying into his recent charm offensive.

Of course he is ... he is just a poor dumb little Spaniard that lives in his childhood neighborhood and doesn't question anything and can't be very smart ... oops, I think I was channeling LA

 

[franciep10]

The new Armstrong article is absolutely hilarious. It's a ham-fisted attempt to get AC to engage him in this so-called build up/rivalry/showdown. He purposely went to Marca to make sure that everyone in Spain reads this, especially AC.

As a wise man from America once said: SSDD.

What a joke of a man he has become. (And I hope AC understands that Bruyneel is full of sh!t and isn't buying into his recent charm offensive).

more psych games from lance as usual

 

[SpeedWay]

The new Armstrong article is absolutely hilarious. It's a ham-fisted attempt to get AC to engage him in this so-called build up/rivalry/showdown. He purposely went to Marca to make sure that everyone in Spain reads this, especially AC.

As a wise man from America once said: SSDD.

What a joke of a man he has become. (And I hope AC understands that Bruyneel is full of sh!t and isn't buying into his recent charm offensive).

What makes it even more hilarious is that you're not laughing. Mind readers with a frown on their face never get the chicks - lighten up player.

 

[Mellow Velo]

Last year's race......
http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2009/jan09/jan21news2
http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2009/jan09/jan22news2

SSDY.

 

[Publicus]

What makes it even more hilarious is that you're not laughing. Mind readers with a frown on their face never get the chicks - lighten up player.

You must be a recent graduate of the LiveStrong School of *** Talking. This is riveting stuff! I'm sad and a mind reader which means i may have trouble getting chicks. Weak, weak stuff my friend. You can't speak to the merits of my comment and decide to attack me personally in the hopes that it derails te thread. Nice try.

SSDD.

 

[Señor_Contador]

All the talk from Armstrong is not going to stop the inevitable: His behind is getting handed back to him.

In some ways this whole Armstrong vs. Contador "conflict" reminds me of the Tyson years: Everyone he was fighting would tell him, in the ring, as they were about to fight, "you know, I'm going to kick your ***". To which Tyson replied by knocking the guy out senseless in 5 seconds.

 

[franciep10]

hopefully the talking will stop after Morzine-Avoriaz

 

[ImmaculateKadence]

You must be a recent graduate of the LiveStrong School of *** Talking. This is riveting stuff! I'm sad and a mind reader which means i may have trouble getting chicks. Weak, weak stuff my friend. You can't speak to the merits of my comment and decide to attack me personally in the hopes that it derails te thread. Nice try.

SSDD.

It's what you call argumentum ad hominem: argument to the person.

Livestrong School of Sh!t talking, eh? Funny stuff!

 

[Publicus]

Last year's race......
http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2009/jan09/jan21news2
http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2009/jan09/jan22news2

SSDY.

Basically. Question: does the UCI weigh each rider before a Pro Tour event, or is that something they only do at the TdF or GT's? The reason I ask is that Armstrong is listed as being 4 kilograms lighter than he was at the TdF, but he doesn't look significantly lighter (almost 9 pounds should be pretty clear to see, ask Wiggins) [and it wasn't like he was fat before]. And if I'm not mistaken (I very well could be) he's never raced at 71 kg, at least not since he came back from his cancer treatments.

 

[Carboncrank]

He purposely went to Marca to make sure that everyone in Spain reads this, especially AC.

Assumes facts not in evidence.

Personaly, I think he's got better things to do than plot what newspaper to cozy up to to get into Alberto's head.

He certainly way into yours.

Let's see if your guy can compete at this level 12 years from now.

 

[Anonymous]

Personally, I think if this is Lance trying to play psychological games with Contrador, and I def. think that is the case...they are really very weak...pathetic actually. No way this will touch A.C. Armstrong won't win one stage or race this year...maybe leadville I guess or some lame thing...but not one important real race...the guy is going to eat some serious crow...and so will his fanboys...

get out your hankies fellas...

 

[Publicus]

Assumes facts not in evidence.

Personaly, I think he's got better things to do than plot what newspaper to cozy up to to get into Alberto's head.

He certainly way into yours.

Let's see if your guy can compete at this level 12 years from now.

Let's take this in order:

It's not court. It's a cycling forum. Dial it back a bit champ.

As for your personal belief, Armstrong admits that their tactics going into the TdF is psych ops. And he and Bruyneel have been engaging in those efforts for the better part of three months (or soon to be 3 months).


It must be the argument du jour amongst the Armstrong supporters. It's not about me chief. It's about Armstrong. Stay focused.

In 12 years Alberto will have been retired for at least three years having won more GTs and other races than Armstrong. I doubt he will be so insecure with the thought of shrinking from the public view that he will come out of retirement to try and recapture old glory. Doesn't seem a part of his DNA.

 

[Carboncrank]

All the talk from Armstrong is not going to stop the inevitable: His behind is getting handed back to him.

In some ways this whole Armstrong vs. Contador "conflict" reminds me of the Tyson years: Everyone he was fighting would tell him, in the ring, as they were about to fight, "you know, I'm going to kick your ***". To which Tyson replied by knocking the guy out senseless in 5 seconds.

You evidently didn't see the Buster Douglas fight. He didn't just beat Tyson, he beat him up. Or the Holyfield fights, or the Lennox Lewis fight.

And as I think of it, I don't think you want to be standing Mike Tyson in for your guy in any argument do you? He dominated an era of bums and got his **** kicked by the only great fighters he ever fought. Not to mention him being a low life scum bucket of a human being.

 

[Publicus]

You evidently didn't see the Buster Douglas fight. He didn't just beat Tyson, he beat him up. Or the Holyfield fights, or the Lennox Lewis fight.

And as I think of it, I don't think you want to be standing Mike Tyson in for your guy in any argument do you? He dominated an era of bums and got his **** kicked by the only great fighters he ever fought. Not to mention him being a low life scum bucket of a human being.

Something we agree. Tyson was largely all bluster and used fear and intimidation to overcome guys early. Once someone stood up to him (Buster Douglas), it was pretty much the beginning of the end.

Frankly, if anyone is Tyson, it's Armstrong (because of his reliance on intimidation and psycho ops against his opponents (whether real or feigned)). But AC is no Buster Douglas.

 

[Carboncrank]

Let's take this in order:

It's not court. It's a cycling forum. Dial it back a bit champ.

Just pointing out that when you said "He purposely went to Marca to make sure that everyone in Spain reads this, especially AC." that it was something that was coming directly from your backside.

 

[Publicus]

Just pointing out that when you said "He purposely went to Marca to make sure that everyone in Spain reads this, especially AC." that it was something that was coming directly from your backside.

I don't know where you keep your brain, but I keep mine in my head.

But I'll correct the sentence so as not to offend your LiveStrong Sensibilities. "It seems as though [h]e purposely went to Marca to make sure that everyone in Spain reads this, especially AC."

 

[Señor_Contador]

You evidently didn't see the Buster Douglas fight. He didn't just beat Tyson, he beat him up. Or the Holyfield fights, or the Lennox Lewis fight.

And as I think of it, I don't think you want to be standing Mike Tyson in for your guy in any argument do you? He dominated an era of bums and got his **** kicked by the only great fighters he ever fought. Not to mention him being a low life scum bucket of a human being.

No, no, nooo mon ami! I saw the Buster fight. And I saw all the other fight before that. And I was a big Tyson fan at the time. All I can say is that AT HIS PRIME he could beat anyone who dared fight him. ALL serious conterders at the time PURPOSELY avoided Mike. This is not something I just grabbed out of my ****, it is a well-known fact that you can check yourself. Much like Maywheather is now coming up with the testing issue to not have to fight Pacquiao. Everyone knows Floyd is a wimp.

Mike's decadence began started right before he fought Buster, and had very little to do with the ring. At his prime even Holyfield shít bricks every time someone asked him to fight Mike. It wasn't until someone found the way to beat him that all of a sudden all these guys developed the guts to fight Mike. Before that, not one.

As far as Lance is concerned... "You can take the hick out of Hicksville, but you'll never get the hick out of a hick".

Write it down.

 

[Carboncrank]

Something we agree. Tyson was largely all bluster and used fear and intimidation to overcome guys early. Once someone stood up to him (Buster Douglas), it was pretty much the beginning of the end.

Frankly, if anyone is Tyson, it's Armstrong (because of his reliance on intimidation and psycho ops against his opponents (whether real or feigned)). But AC is no Buster Douglas.

Absolutely right. AC is no Buster Douglas. For the last 3 years he's been the greatest in the game and it's been fantastic to watch. It's been inspiring to watch.

If the quality of his current team wasn't in question, and he hadn't shown a tendency to go off reservation and ignore his DS, I'd say he's a lock to win the tour.

But I DO believe he has some vulnerabilities and that could make it more interesting.

 

[Polish]

Question: does the UCI weigh each rider before a Pro Tour event, or is that something they only do at the TdF or GT's? .

There used to be a tradition at the TdF of a "pre-race physical".

The race organization would make sure the riders were ready for
the ordeal to come....it was open to the media and it was mostly
for "fun". They would also record height/weight and during the race
the announcers could say things like "Eros Poli is the biggest rider
this year" or "so-and-so was the shortest" etc.

I believe the TdF race organization recently stopped this tradition...?

 

[Publicus]

Absolutely right. AC is no Buster Douglas. For the last 3 years he's been the greatest in the game and it's been fantastic to watch. It's been inspiring to watch.

If the quality of his current team wasn't in question, and he hadn't shown a tendency to go off reservation and ignore his DS, I'd say he's a lock to win the tour.

But I DO believe he has some vulnerabilities and that could make it more interesting.

The bolded passage is where we part company. His DS wasn't looking out for his best interest, so he took matters into his own hands. His current DS seems to have a much better grasp of the situation and is working hard to develop a level of trust with AC.

But he does have vulnerabilities (team, cobbles, likes to race) and this upcoming TdF could expose one or more of them. Though I think his biggest strength (he's a realist) will help him minimize those vulnerabilities.

 

[Publicus]

There used to be a tradition at the TdF of a "pre-race physical".

The race organization would make sure the riders were ready for
the ordeal to come....it was open to the media and it was mostly
for "fun". They would also record height/weight and during the race
the announcers could say things like "Eros Poli is the biggest rider
this year" or "so-and-so was the shortest" etc.

I believe the TdF race organization recently stopped this tradition...?

Thanks Polish.

 

[Anonymous]

Absolutely right. AC is no Buster Douglas. For the last 3 years he's been the greatest in the game and it's been fantastic to watch. It's been inspiring to watch.

If the quality of his current team wasn't in question, and he hadn't shown a tendency to go off reservation and ignore his DS, I'd say he's a lock to win the tour.

But I DO believe he has some vulnerabilities and that could make it more interesting.

Ignoring his DS? gee, I wonder why he might have ignored JB who according to your boy could be ego's "twin brother"...no worries man, egostrong is going to get that remaining ball ripped off this year...psych ops or not...