The Official LANCE ARMSTRONG Thread 2010-2011

[Carboncrank]

Wrong, Again.

Merckx's epic crash happened in the off season between the 69-70 season. As I wrote he won the Giro and the Tour, these wins happened in the 70 season after the crash . He also won Paris-Roubaix, Gent-Wevelgem, and Flèche Wallonne a few months after the crash and prior to winning the Giro and the Tour. Have you ever heard of those races?

I stand corrected. You are right.
He was a great rider and it was a great feat.

Lance and Eddy are good friends. I actually heard Eddie call Lance "the greatest".

Just for perspective, if Eddie had been injured on March 23rd of 1970 he would missed the first 3 races you mention so that part of your point is completely moot.

Eddie was 25 years old, Lance was 37. Where was Eddy at age 37. On the podium at the tour de france?

 

[auscyclefan94]

I stand corrected. You are right.
He was a great rider and it was a great feat.

Lance and Eddy are good friends. I actually heard Eddie call Lance "the greatest".

Just for perspective, if Eddie had been injured on March 23rd of 1970 he would missed the first 3 races you mention so that part of your point is completely moot.

Eddie was 25 years old, Lance was 37. Where was Eddy at age 37. On the podium at the tour de france?

WTF??

Those anger management classes are kicking in!

 

[Ripper]

I stand corrected. You are right.
He was a great rider and it was a great feat.

See ...calming breaths ... tea ...

Think of the colour blue, like the ocean ...

 

[issoisso]

Just for perspective, if Eddie had been injured on March 23rd of 1970 he would missed the first 3 races you mention so that part of your point is completely moot.

The Eddy Merckx who soldiered on in the Tour despite a broken tailbone, a bleeding colon, gonorrhea, a broken jaw that stopped him from eating and a broken nose that stopped him breathing effectively, plus constant liver pain and vomit?

You really don't know much about Merckx, do you? He was more head than legs. His willpower is beyond human. That's what separated him from the others.

And I'm not even a fan. I hate the loudmouth egomaniacal jackass....but I can admit to how out of the ordinary he was. He would've ridden those races. As he did so many times despite severe injuries.

Eddie was 25 years old, Lance was 37. Where was Eddy at age 37. On the podium at the tour de france?

Burned out from riding a trillion races a year and attacking on pretty much every single one. Realize that Merckx never stopped. He rode track during the winter, then went on the road and attacked the early season races with the same ferocity as he attacked the classics.

Then he went on to the major stage races: Vuelta, Giro, Suisse, Tour. Then he did the worlds and end of season races. Then the winter came and he rode track again.

He. did. not. rest. For years and years. Try doing that and you'll be burned out in one year. So it's no surprise that Merckx was burned out early. He still took far longer to burn out than anyone else.

 

[Race Radio]

I stand corrected. You are right.
He was a great rider and it was a great feat.

Lance and Eddy are good friends. I actually heard Eddie call Lance "the greatest".

Just for perspective, if Eddie had been injured on March 23rd of 1970 he would missed the first 3 races you mention so that part of your point is completely moot.

Eddie was 25 years old, Lance was 37. Where was Eddy at age 37. On the podium at the tour de france?

It was about the same amount of time between Eddie Crash and him winning two classics in the same week as Armstrong getting on the podium of the Tour.

If Lance had started working with Ferrari earlier maybe he would not have needed to ride for so long. Unlike Eddie who won the Giro and Tour at 25 Lance dropped out of GT's until he met Ferrari and the magic of EPO.

 

[Carboncrank]

Your name calling doesn't change the fact that you tried to diminish Coppi's time in a POW camp and calling one of the greatest riders ever a "crashfest"

You were proven wrong and are embarrassed, we get it. Don't make it worse by ranting. Now go take your pills and find your happy place.

As far as forums go, typing your own words after someones name is the lowest of the low. I can't believe anybody would defend that and you can't just sluff it off.

Not only that, if you really have this fast knowledge of the sacred riders of the sport why did you have to resort to just copy pasting what's on the the Wikipedia page about Coppi? Literaly just copied.. except for changing what was written about his WWII experience to make it appear as though it had some bearing on his injuries, which is not what it says there.. or anywhere.... and oh yea, you added the word "cracked" in front of "head and knee for my comic relief.

You claimed, "Fausto Coppi was fragile physically with brittle bones, brought on by malnutrition as a child and the fact that he was a prisoner of war during WWII." Your words, not words I falsely put after your name.

I already posted what the Wiki page actually said. You falsified what it said just as you falsified what you wrote after my name.

 

[Race Radio]

As far as forums go, typing your own words after someones name is the lowest of the low. I can't believe anybody would defend that and you can't just sluff it off.

Not only that, if you really have this fast knowledge of the sacred riders of the sport why did you have to resort to just copy pasting what's on the the Wikipedia page about Coppi? Literaly just copied.. except for changing what was written about his WWII experience to make it appear as though it had some bearing on his injuries, which is not what it says there.. or anywhere.... and oh yea, you added the word "cracked" in front of "head and knee for my comic relief.

You claimed, "Fausto Coppi was fragile physically with brittle bones, brought on by malnutrition as a child and the fact that he was a prisoner of war during WWII." Your words, not words I falsely put after your name.

I already posted what the Wiki page actually said. You falsified what it said just as you falsified what you wrote after my name.

You are just digging the hole deeper, give up while you are behind. None of your babble changes the fact you were wrong and now, like a 5 year old, you are throwing a tantrum.

 

[Publicus]

I stand corrected. You are right.
He was a great rider and it was a great feat.

Lance and Eddy are good friends. I actually heard Eddie call Lance "the greatest".

Just for perspective, if Eddie had been injured on March 23rd of 1970 he would missed the first 3 races you mention so that part of your point is completely moot.

Eddie was 25 years old, Lance was 37. Where was Eddy at age 37. On the podium at the tour de france?

What is it with you? It had no effect on Lance. That's not my speculation that's what Lance said. Stop wasting everyone's time trying to manufacture an excuse that even Armstrong isn't advancing.

 

[Carboncrank]

You are just digging the hole deeper, give up while you are behind. None of your babble changes the fact you were wrong and now, like a 5 year old, you are throwing a tantrum.

No, I'm exposing you as the fraudulent, phony, poser, you are.

You've lied to exaggerate a point and put words in my mouth that were not my own.

 

[Race Radio]

No, I'm exposing you as the fraudulent, phony, poser, you are.

You've lied to exaggerate a point and put words in my mouth that were not my own.

The only thing you have exposed is that you are a cry baby

 

[Carboncrank]

What is it with you? It had no effect on Lance. That's not my speculation that's what Lance said. Stop wasting everyone's time trying to manufacture an excuse that even Armstrong isn't advancing.

stop wasting your time claiming it had no bearing.

Obviously, the idea that it would have no bearing is hogwash.

Let's hear from someone who has had a collarbone break. Not just a fracture but a 3 piece shattering that took a seven inch plate and a dozen screws.

You can keep coming back with this nonsense all you want. I think it's bull$hit and I'll just keep calling it that.

It is exceedingly rare for such an injured rider to win the tour. Proving that it was done in 1952 doesn't change that fact. (even without the details)

Why don't you just quit wasting your time trying to deny it.

 

[Carboncrank]

The only thing you have exposed is that you are a cry baby

Now, who's proved what? Really, I know 12 year olds that have more game than you.

 

[Race Radio]

Now, who's proved what? Really, I know 12 year olds that have more game than you.

thanks for proving my point.

 

[Ripper]

Now, who's proved what? Really, I know 12 year olds that have more game than you.

Trouble finding your quiet place? Try Zen meditation.

 

[Big GMaC]

Now, who's proved what? Really, I know 12 year olds that have more game than you.

mother****er shut the **** up or at least keep your dumb ignorant **** out of at least 1 of the open threads

 

[Carboncrank]

mother****er shut the **** up or at least keep your dumb ignorant **** out of at least 1 of the open threads

I don't know who you are or why I should listen to you but I don't sit back and just take abuse without standing up for myself.

So, since you see fit to be profane, kiss my a$$

 

[Publicus]

stop wasting your time claiming it had no bearing.

Obviously, the idea that it would have no bearing is hogwash.

Let's hear from someone who has had a collarbone break. Not just a fracture but a 3 piece shattering that took a seven inch plate and a dozen screws.

You can keep coming back with this nonsense all you want. I think it's bull$hit and I'll just keep calling it that.

It is exceedingly rare for such an injured rider to win the tour. Proving that it was done in 1952 doesn't change that fact. (even without the details)

Why don't you just quit wasting your time trying to deny it.

Nothing to deny. Reality is reality. You on the other hand are trying to spin up an excuse out of thin air. Lance was at the Tour to win. He said he felt great and was hitting his 2002 numbers in training. He was crowing after Stage 3 that he was 7-time TdF and that meant something. That all changed after Arcalis, but still, he felt great and was giving it 100%. He just didn't have it in the legs. Why can't you accept that reality and just move on?

 

[auscyclefan94]

See ...calming breaths ... tea ...

Think of the colour blue, like the ocean ...

Trouble finding your quiet place? Try Zen meditation.

Your a funny one Ripper

 

[Iker_Baqueiro]

Reality

I agree with Publicus, LA just didn't have it in his legs to match the younger champion generation who is in their prime: Contador and Schleck.

All in all, marketing-wise, LA's return is good for the world of pro cycling. I hope it brings more awareness of this great sport to the masses, and that the salaries of the peloton rise as well. Not only LA's income.

There's a Spanish saying, I'm sure Contador knows it, that goes something like this: "Tell me what you boast about and I'll tell you what you lack". Lately, the only thing Armstrong does is boast.

All the talking Armstrong is doing is only to compensate what he doesn't have anymore. He might as well get the spotlight with all those BS statements while he can, before the TDF and make some money. He might as well re-pay his sponsor by talking to the media every week about how much he dislikes Contador.

 

[Carboncrank]

Nothing to deny. Reality is reality. You on the other hand are trying to spin up an excuse out of thin air.

Your words are "out of thin air". Saying that all you want isn't going to make it true.

That injury was hardly "out of thin air".

 

[Oldman]

So, what you are saying is, in order for someone to have a valid opinion about whether a shattered collarbone on March 23rd might interfere with a racers training for the tour that starts July 4th, you have to have raced a major stage race?
You just eliminated 99 percent or more of the the people who will ever read this.

Have you?

Sorry I missed so much. The answer is a qualified yes. It was the biggest race I could get into as an amateur and your boy was in it. I finished ahead of him. I was more than double his age and older than he is now. Does that qualify me as an authority-NO. I was asking what expertise suggests that no rider could win the Tour after sustaining a broken collarbone in the same season.
By the way...I was never questioning the sizable task that LA took on returning to the GTs. I was questioning the constant deification that generates from his publicity machine...I think that's what people were originally questioning. Seriously-I wasn't looking to start a shiiteystorm over this; just voicing my frustration over the level of self promotion and lack of respect for his competitors.

 

[Publicus]

Your words are "out of thin air". Saying that all you want isn't going to make it true.

That injury was hardly "out of thin air".

It was healed and a non-issue. You are trying to make it an issue with nothing but your own opinion to suggest that it was. That's what it means to make something up out of thin air.

Your boy lost. Badly. Stop making excuses and accept that fact. He wasn't the strongest and it had nothing to do with his collarbone. Nothing.

 

[auscyclefan94]

It was healed and a non-issue. You are trying to make it an issue with nothing but your own opinion to suggest that it was. That's what it means to make something up out of thin air.

Your boy lost. Badly. Stop making excuses and accept that fact. He wasn't the strongest and it had nothing to do with his collarbone. Nothing.

i personally think the collarbone helped him with his form. carbon crank, lance was not the third best rider, he would of finished about 5th by my estimates without the ttt. This years tour's ttt was far too descisive.

 

[Hugh Januss]

Originally Posted by Publicus
Nothing to deny. Reality is reality. You on the other hand are trying to spin up an excuse out of thin air.

Your words are "out of thin air". Saying that all you want isn't going to make it true.

That injury was hardly "out of thin air".

Hardly the same point. Do you lack reading comprehension skills, or are you purposefully being obtuse?

 

[Publicus]

i personally think the collarbone helped him with his form. carbon crank, lance was not the third best rider, he would of finished about 5th by my estimates without the ttt. This years tour's ttt was far too descisive.

I agree. The TTT was the difference maker.