You understand you are basically saying you don't like the way he looks, and consequently you are not really a fan.
It's all fine at the end of the day because that's actually a huge part of sports and being a fan of one rider and not of another.
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It's all fine at the end of the day because that's actually a huge part of sports and being a fan of one rider and not of another.
I think it was clear enough what i was saying. And it had nothing to do with his hairdo or being a fan.
Lots of overanalysis in this thread - Simply, Kelderman is not good enough - I suspect Kelderman would be close to the pink jersey if not for Dennis.
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If not for Dennis he would win the Giro 90% of the times. And the other 10% Hindley wins it.
One thing everyone seems to forget about Kelderman at this Giro is he is the leader of a team with all the expectation on his shoulders while TGH, Hindley and Almeida are riding free of this kind of pressure
No way do I think that all round they are better riders or GT competitors than Kelderman. They have found themselves in positions of strength and have the legs but as we all know once you have expectation on your shoulders things change
One minute you are destined to win multiple grand tours and the next you are off to a proconti team
Unfortunately for Kelderman for whatever reason his legs on the mountains departed him. He rides with lack of conviction at times and that is understandable as he has bad luck and this Giro wont help that
But he fought back admirably on the Stelvio and yesterday. He is mentally strong
And he is talented.
No way do I think that all round they are better riders or GT competitors than Kelderman. They have found themselves in positions of strength and have the legs but as we all know once you have expectation on your shoulders things change
One minute you are destined to win multiple grand tours and the next you are off to a proconti team
Unfortunately for Kelderman for whatever reason his legs on the mountains departed him. He rides with lack of conviction at times and that is understandable as he has bad luck and this Giro wont help that
But he fought back admirably on the Stelvio and yesterday. He is mentally strong
And he is talented.
I also wasn't impressed by Kelderman's fighting spirit yesterday. I saw him do the absolute minimum number of pulls in that chasing group. Uphill, it was mostly Almeida who I saw pulling, and thereafter, almost all of the work was done by Trek and QS, and some Bahrein later on. Obviously he was not very good, but at least you have to show you're willing to go down fighting, and I just didn't see that, sorry. Without Dennis, maybe he would've been in pink this evening, but without all the other teams helping him, he would've lost more time yesterday as well.
He was just cooked. I think if he'd pulled he would have perhaps risked his podium spot, although there could be merit in pressuring Dennis to pull harder.
Damn man i feel old, yes yes and yes Kreuziger what a rider he was he was looked at as a future star i remember the days when he and Nibali were lil babys tring to overtake basso as the head of state at Liquigas(still my fav team and team name remember the great Syzmd lol)
It is, more or less, the same thing though. He did not 'look' like he was trying hard enough or giving it absolutely everything.
Having raced with a fair variety of folks (like many folks), I can say that I've seen people look like they are digging deep all the time, even when they really are not. And I've seen others just suffering but you would not think so looking at them.
I'm not really a fan or hater of Wilco. But he certainly seems to have turned himself relatively inside out to stay in as much touch as he did. He definitely hasn't just phoned it in, but he does not appear, at least right now, to be good at finishing - he's good to near the penultimate mark and that's where he cracks. Could that be his training or more his physiology? Who knows. But if we're talking about mentally weak, we'd be seeing something pretty different.
Yup, this is pretty much it.
What seems pretty apparent with this year's Giro is it was an extreme risk to come into this race too sharp.
That’s how I saw it. I thought he had a pretty impressive Giro, all things considered. Not sure you could point to anything major he could have done differently.
Dennis just flat out dropped him on the Stelvio and with the size of that climb Wilco played it smart and didn’t force himself into really bonking. Yesterday we just saw that he wasn’t quite good enough, I’m sure the Stelvio took a lot out of him.
In interviews yesterday, he didn't seem to mind that he lost his grip on pink. He said he was mainly happy and proud of his third place after all the hardship he's been through, and that two guys were stronger than him. He also said that he was going to drink a lot of beer.
Good that he's happy. Without Dennis ex Machina, he could have won it all. But that's all part of a GT. He might have been too sharp going into the Giro. Was really outstanding the first week, but not good enough in the third week (while still on a par with everyone bar the three in front). Pity but happens to the best, ask Primoz.
Good that he's happy. Without Dennis ex Machina, he could have won it all. But that's all part of a GT. He might have been too sharp going into the Giro. Was really outstanding the first week, but not good enough in the third week (while still on a par with everyone bar the three in front). Pity but happens to the best, ask Primoz.
Which is fair. You're describing a very good rider but not a champion material. Not top of the class level. I feel really disappointed the way he rode this Giro because there was absolutely zero panache in what Kelderman did. But it's probably just that this is his limit, his ceiling and will just never get better than this.
It could've been a one trick pony, I guess we'll see him in the top 10 of other GTs. Nothing more.
Wilco, the German, according to Cyclingnews 
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Form ranking: Tour de France 2021 contenders
Pogacar looking like the rider to beat after early season WorldTour stage races
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All the Männer in the Bora-team are German, didn't you know? I think we have a special engermanizing law for these cases, also called the Boraman-rule.
You mean the Boramann rule, of course named after Jean-Marc Boramann, who fought a hard legal battle against the team to get the rule established and enforced.
And who is now broke and living on welfare while other cyclists get rich and leave him in a ditch?
LOL,Wilco, the German, according to Cyclingnews
Form ranking: Tour de France 2021 contenders
Pogacar looking like the rider to beat after early season WorldTour stage races
Mods, can we have this thread's title edited please?
Bonimenier
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As long as Merckx doesn't finish 3rd in a GT, he isn't worthy of being compared to Kelderman.
They should change the article to "move along, slight miss by me" or something.
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