I think this team is finding out about the Johan Cruyff adage, "a bag of money can't score a goal". You can't just poach personnel here and there and then figure out what to do with them. You need a proper plan behind it.
Dr. Tim Podlogar: Primož je kot perfekcionist želel, da so stvari urejene tako, kot je treba. Ima prav in tako bi moralo biti.
"V letošnji sezoni je bilo zaradi prihoda Primoža Rogliča v ekipo izjemno stresno. Kot Slovenec sem čutil še dodaten pritisk, saj se od Primoža vedno veliko pričakuje, in bil bi izjemno razočaran, če bi bila prehrana tista, ki bi mu onemogočila doseči cilje," je v pogovoru za Sportal poudaril...siol.net
Tim Podlogar shared some thoughts on this subject and acknowledged that in 2024 season things were not optimal in terms of nutrition. The whole implemented system was a step or two behind in comparison to Rogličes previous team. With signing Asker the idea therefore for sure is to step things up, goal likely being to match Visma or to do better.
P.S. On a side note Podlogar doesn't believe ketones are proven to be beneficial and doesn't believe cyclists are using carbon monoxide rebreathers to improve performance, due to that simply being too dangerous.
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they have a plan for 2025, but I agree with the quote regarding the 2024 season.
I agree that a bag of money is not a guarantee to be successful in sports but in this specific case i don't feel this applies in such way. That is if you will read the given article it's mentioned that a bag of money was not yet available in the 2024 season. Head of nutrition for the 2024 season Podlogar admitting nutrition system as a whole was a step or two behind the one implemented at Visma. Said all that the team still won one GT and finished second in another in the 2024 season. Without a bag of money involved and with lacking nutrition system implemented among some other things missing or better lacking.
So poaching Asker Jeukendrup, head of nutrition at Visma, this in my opinion can't be perceived as some random act of spending money. We all know Visma is top notch, on where it comes to nutrition and their head of nutrition must know a thing or two about it.
Along with the addition of a bag of money they poached aerodynamic specialist, will have access to modern RB equipment and facilities and know how ... All this was more or less not available in the 2024 season. So in my opinion there is a proper plan unfolding and the results will start to show in the 2025 season. Nutrition is one of the most important aspects of pro road cycling and getting this right can by itself determine the outcome of some race. This area should hence now be covered, proper nutrition system to be implemented.
Fortunately I don't have any nutritionist friends who'd disown me for saying this.
And I'm not disagreeing that nutrition isn't important and a key to unlocking good performance in physical activity like cycling.
But surely all nutritionists are largely the same level, technically, there arent any super good nutritionists, they all know what's good nutrition or what's bad nutrition, it's not like there's a nutrition whisperer who unlocks magical secrets in nutrition, alot of it is about getting pro riders especially to just follow the advice they give.
Asker Jeukendrup happens to be some kind of a God among nutritionists, he's not just some random guy. So they add a lot of knowledge and expertise to the team. But it's also about how you use that knowledge. This team, according to all reports, is still run quite conservatively, or it was until recently. It takes a change of team culture to really get things going.
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another exaggerated article by them:
www.wielerflits.nl
BUT it says again that Sven Vanthourenhout is close to sign with Red Bull. Take from it whatever you want, because each article from Wielerflits this year with connection to Red Bull was more or less wrong.
Hoe Red Bull-BORA-hansgrohe steeds meer op Manchester City begint te lijken
Wout van Aert, Tom Pidcock, Jasper Philipsen, uiteraard Remco Evenepoel en nu ook Maxim Van Gils. Al deze namen zijn het laatste jaar wel een keer serieus in verband gebracht met Red Bull-BORA-hansgrohe. Niets nieuws, want de ploeg roerde zich in het verleden ook al op de markt voor de grootsten...
BUT it says again that Sven Vanthourenhout is close to sign with Red Bull. Take from it whatever you want, because each article from Wielerflits this year with connection to Red Bull was more or less wrong.
Yeah the vast majority of the information is open source and peer reviewed, the level of knowledge in this field needed isn't particularly high like it would be a nuclear scientist so if a rider had some time and a bit of intellect they could teach most of it themselves, as some have. The differences between top nutritionists seem minor and any changes or new knowledge would rapidly become widely known and implemented across the board.
Remco's nutrition video before world's was him basically stuffing in as much as he could and tracking the calorie expenditure, Haribo, tasty lasagne and a tub of Ben+Jerrys.
Logistics, the time and money to properly micromanage this stuff and the individual athletes discipline are the main difference makers, which the very top teams do have. The proper brains like in most fields, will be random Chinese eggheads with a microscope that nobody has ever heard of, sat in the basement of Kellogg's on slave wages looking for some way to make the cornflakes more addictive. Anything they find will trickle down eventually to cycling teams, there's no magic bullet.
Maybe Man City not currently the best team to use an a example. Woeful at the moment, but more related to this article Red Bull had better watch out for the departed riders, City to seem to have a habit of ditching players who then perform at a higher level elsewhere.another exaggerated article by them:
Hoe Red Bull-BORA-hansgrohe steeds meer op Manchester City begint te lijken
Wout van Aert, Tom Pidcock, Jasper Philipsen, uiteraard Remco Evenepoel en nu ook Maxim Van Gils. Al deze namen zijn het laatste jaar wel een keer serieus in verband gebracht met Red Bull-BORA-hansgrohe. Niets nieuws, want de ploeg roerde zich in het verleden ook al op de markt voor de grootsten...
BUT it says again that Sven Vanthourenhout is close to sign with Red Bull. Take from it whatever you want, because each article from Wielerflits this year with connection to Red Bull was more or less wrong.
Some insights on Emil Herzog. He is very satisfied with his 2024 season (https://www.radsport-news.com/sport/sportnews_140088.htm) but has different targets for 2025 then in 2024. He stated that he is having some difficulties with the short efforts (1-3 minutes) and that he feels more comfortable on the longer efforts. So he wants to do some small stage races with a hilly parcour which maybe include a time trial. But of course he is not a climber that can finish in the front on a 20 km climb. He mentioned Sibiu tour as a possibility. And he said that its a possibility that he is doing some races with the U23 team.
This sounds a little bit like the profile of Max Schachmann. Maybe Volta ao Algarve is this kind of race or Settimana Internationale Coppi e Bartali, Tour Alsace on World Tour level Santos Tour down under. One day race could be Strade Bianchi (if you want to think big). Some more ideas on possible races?
This sounds a little bit like the profile of Max Schachmann. Maybe Volta ao Algarve is this kind of race or Settimana Internationale Coppi e Bartali, Tour Alsace on World Tour level Santos Tour down under. One day race could be Strade Bianchi (if you want to think big). Some more ideas on possible races?
very interesthing, thanks.
I think he started quite well but it seemed like from mid season on he did not have his best form anymore.
Anyway, the boy is 20 years old. He has a lot of time
Yes I think the Most important think in 2024 was to gain experience and stay healthy. As far as I know he did Not do any altitude camp. The only specific preparation was for the U23 Worlds - he there was Held back by a puncture in a Bad Situation but managed to get back to 16th place.
Hope he stays healthy again and can Target some races as a Highlight for himself and get some good results (Top 10). In the long Term I can See him delivering good results in the Long and Heavy one day races
He also was good in some hilly one day race in Italy I think, blowing up in the final after being active in the front group, also was useful for Adrià win in Wallonie making the race harder on the climbs. This .1 and .Pro hilly one day races and Stage races, should be a atarget for him, with on more year of experiencie he can actually achieve results.
Roglic, Martinez and Hindley to the Giro.
Roglic, Martinez and Vlasov to the Tour.
Vlasov and Hindley to the Vuelta.
Lipowitz big goal Dauphine as a leader (he will also ride Strade and Tirreno) and Tour or Vuelta but not as a leader.
Hilly classices is the thing for van Gils.
Conclusions:
In my opinion the Giro is the big goal for the team, they send a team of 2 former giro winners and a second place finisher. This is a strong team. In addition to these riders I think we will see a lot of the italian guys there.
They also said that they will put a bigger focus on the one day races then the years before. A broad team for the cobbled classics. For me this could be a core team for the spring races something like Lazkano, Pithie, Meeus, van Dijcke x2, Tratnik, Koch, Maciejuk, Denz, Moscon, van Poppel, Mullen and Welsford. And then they select the riders who are needed for the different parcours. Adria said he wants to try races like tour of flandern. A really broad team with no superstar but 4-5 guys who could be there in the final of the races (Lazkano, Meeus, Pithie, Tratnik and Tim van Dijcke) and if you are present in the final with more than one guy they should get some top 5s and in smaller races podiums and even a win.
According to a strave ride Koch, Lazkano, van Dijke x2 and Mullen did a Roubaix recon together.
For the hill classics Maxim van Gils is the leader, I also see riders like Lazkano, Wandahl, Adria (definitly a co leader for me), Sobrero, Aleotti and maybe Vlasov (because no Giro participation) competing in these races.
Riders who are participating in the ardennes races are very likely to not participate at the giro, there is to less time in between races and there is no need to rush.
I´m looking forward to the next weeks to see who is training together to maybe get some conclusions about the roosters for the different parts of the year. I think they will prepare the classics like a grand tour.
Roglic, Martinez and Vlasov to the Tour.
Vlasov and Hindley to the Vuelta.
Lipowitz big goal Dauphine as a leader (he will also ride Strade and Tirreno) and Tour or Vuelta but not as a leader.
Hilly classices is the thing for van Gils.
Conclusions:
In my opinion the Giro is the big goal for the team, they send a team of 2 former giro winners and a second place finisher. This is a strong team. In addition to these riders I think we will see a lot of the italian guys there.
They also said that they will put a bigger focus on the one day races then the years before. A broad team for the cobbled classics. For me this could be a core team for the spring races something like Lazkano, Pithie, Meeus, van Dijcke x2, Tratnik, Koch, Maciejuk, Denz, Moscon, van Poppel, Mullen and Welsford. And then they select the riders who are needed for the different parcours. Adria said he wants to try races like tour of flandern. A really broad team with no superstar but 4-5 guys who could be there in the final of the races (Lazkano, Meeus, Pithie, Tratnik and Tim van Dijcke) and if you are present in the final with more than one guy they should get some top 5s and in smaller races podiums and even a win.
According to a strave ride Koch, Lazkano, van Dijke x2 and Mullen did a Roubaix recon together.
For the hill classics Maxim van Gils is the leader, I also see riders like Lazkano, Wandahl, Adria (definitly a co leader for me), Sobrero, Aleotti and maybe Vlasov (because no Giro participation) competing in these races.
Riders who are participating in the ardennes races are very likely to not participate at the giro, there is to less time in between races and there is no need to rush.
I´m looking forward to the next weeks to see who is training together to maybe get some conclusions about the roosters for the different parts of the year. I think they will prepare the classics like a grand tour.
looks like a good schedule for Pellizzari. Would prefer the vuelta for him because its less media attention. The many one week stage races are also well planned, then there will be enough time for training blocks in between and he is not loosing that much time like with one day races.
Also more chances to ride for himself in mountain heavy world tour races first.
Max Verstappen's mental coach joins Red Bull - BORA - hansgrohe:
velo.outsideonline.com
Verstappen’s Psychologist, Visma’s Nutritionist, Ineos’ Engineers: Red Bull-Bora Brings Big Brains to Bid for Dominance
'We need to invest in the details': Roglič's crew leverages Red Bull's portfolio of performance experts in bid for 'super team' status.
velo.outsideonline.com
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