You can’t really say that based on what happened. You don’t know what would’ve happened if he was on the wheel from the start
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Because the gap was so small. I'm only talking about this specific instance where I believe he could've followed if he was on his wheel from the start. On a longer climb I'm pretty sure Pogacar would still drop Evenepoel
He has a VERY GOOD TACTICAL SITUATION for a syage as tomorrow or even the best days.
He has to put riders ahead,today was just Hirt, and he was very important.
Remco is the bast on the quite flat sections, even in slopes about 3-4% I thik he is the best or similar to Pogacar. In general, always the aerodinamics plays an important role, becouse he is the best aerodinamic.
He has a very Powerfull attack no far from Pogacar ones as we show once at Lieje.
iI he attack, Pogacar wont mind a lot becouse should mind more to Vingo.
Vingo wont mind a lot becouse he just mind to win le Tour and the rival is Pogacar. He prefer second than third, but he will risk the second.
So, except one of them has people to work, is possible to watch a situation he can attack and go alone. In fact, we watched today. To see that in a stage like tomorrow, he has to do the stage hard and selective, to put 2 riders on the break, to use Landa if necessary not just to cover his back, and to go on the last climb with the will to put time at the end will the help of team mates or ven people who want a stage. Contador used Tiralongo at Fuente De...it is not something I like too much, but It has always wprked that way. Maybe Remco didnt make lot of friends on the peloton, but he will learn to do it.
His main wickness, he has to sprinted after every corner in the descents....That is a lot waste of energy...and despite that he put today 10 secondt to Pogacar and 12 to Vingo...he could win le Tour if he improves thecnicaly.
It is better to be remembered as the rider who put in problemms at Poogacar and Vingegaar his fiorsy Tour, than the rider who did third after the super riders Pogacar and Vingegaard. Excepct he crasked at la Bonnete, he will be well remembered of this Tour, but he has not too much to lose now.
He has to put riders ahead,today was just Hirt, and he was very important.
Remco is the bast on the quite flat sections, even in slopes about 3-4% I thik he is the best or similar to Pogacar. In general, always the aerodinamics plays an important role, becouse he is the best aerodinamic.
He has a very Powerfull attack no far from Pogacar ones as we show once at Lieje.
iI he attack, Pogacar wont mind a lot becouse should mind more to Vingo.
Vingo wont mind a lot becouse he just mind to win le Tour and the rival is Pogacar. He prefer second than third, but he will risk the second.
So, except one of them has people to work, is possible to watch a situation he can attack and go alone. In fact, we watched today. To see that in a stage like tomorrow, he has to do the stage hard and selective, to put 2 riders on the break, to use Landa if necessary not just to cover his back, and to go on the last climb with the will to put time at the end will the help of team mates or ven people who want a stage. Contador used Tiralongo at Fuente De...it is not something I like too much, but It has always wprked that way. Maybe Remco didnt make lot of friends on the peloton, but he will learn to do it.
His main wickness, he has to sprinted after every corner in the descents....That is a lot waste of energy...and despite that he put today 10 secondt to Pogacar and 12 to Vingo...he could win le Tour if he improves thecnicaly.
It is better to be remembered as the rider who put in problemms at Poogacar and Vingegaar his fiorsy Tour, than the rider who did third after the super riders Pogacar and Vingegaard. Excepct he crasked at la Bonnete, he will be well remembered of this Tour, but he has not too much to lose now.
Remco has been great. He is looking good for the remaining stages and the TT. But Vingegaard definitely showed signs he was weakening today.
Remco is entering now in his danger zone. Until now we haven't seen a lot of pure mountain stages (I would say 2). At this moment, The Alps stages and the last ITT (in terms of continuous efforts) look crucial for his career. If he is available to perform the way he has been doing this Tour, it will be a clear step ahead to be between the contenders for next years.
To be honest, I didn't expect to see him at this level. Today he looked very comfortable and we are heading to the end of the race.
I am not saying that he is at top level contender, but in my opinion the evolution or the increasing he has have until now in this grand tour makes me believe he can be consistent in the next years Tour de France.
I hope that analysis is more accurate at least the same that my desire to see a new starring guest between the dynamic duo (Vingegaard-Pogacar).
To be honest, I didn't expect to see him at this level. Today he looked very comfortable and we are heading to the end of the race.
I am not saying that he is at top level contender, but in my opinion the evolution or the increasing he has have until now in this grand tour makes me believe he can be consistent in the next years Tour de France.
I hope that analysis is more accurate at least the same that my desire to see a new starring guest between the dynamic duo (Vingegaard-Pogacar).
While I agree he still has things to prove in the last couple of stages, I don't see how he could not be considerd a "top level contender". He's put in an impressive performance in the fastest, probably toughest Tour I've ever seen, both from a day-to-day-fatigue-accumulation perspective and a climb- time-on-big-mountains perspective. Barring accident or injury, he's a lock for the podium. He could even mount a challenge for second place, though I'd not bet on it. I guess it all depends on one's subjective definition of "top level contender", so maybe I'm splitting hairs.
He's at the top level of what I expected from him so far. I thought his ceiling was 3rd, his floor was 5th. I'd have bet more on 3rd than 5th. He doesn't look to me like a guy who's going to crack, but then nobody does until they do. Sounds like he was feeling good today. I think everything points to him having aimed the peak for the last week.
I don't see him beating Pog on Pog's home roads in the ITT. Pog is stronger and he rides that stuff literally out his back door. But if Remco can maintain the level he's at now, he's succeeded in this Tour wildly, and of course is a contender in the future. IMO.
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One thing that bothers me: I know soccer isn't a throwing sport, but Remco has really poor throwing mechanics on his daily bidon toss from the podium.
He forgot to hold it with both his hands above his head before the throw.
You just reiterated what I said about Vingo's prep. He lacked the time to sustain the prep he has. Everyone forgets the one fact: everyone is racing faster because they have to. The whole team setup for GT guys is designed to make them work less until they actually have to race. Pack speeds are up across the board and the GC contenders don't see the front of the race until they either want to attack or need to respond. It's not like they're all posting start to finish best output numbers in a 200km tt or something. The "numbers" I keeps seeing are for a specific climb, or portion of a climb.
Then you have a guy like Carapaz who kills himself for multiple stages to finally get a win. What would be helpful is to compare stages, start to finish of those efforts compared to protected and much more sheltered racers.
Beating your own teammate to a mountaintop finish by 5 minutes in a 4.5 hr effort looks a whole lot less dramatic when you compare actual work loads. As I've posted repeatedly; we're not naive about how preparation occurs but across the board the racers appear stronger and better coached.
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Because Remco is a little older and stronger and as the Tour progresses he seems stronger. He showed this again on stage 17.
We forget but Remco is a little younger than Pogacar so we should expect him to be better than we have seen before knowing he has had a good preparation.
Pog will likely stomp the Bonette & Isola stage but the TT Remco could win the way he is recovering.
He is a bit too cautious at the moment to initiate a long range attack. In an interview in Het Nieuwsblad he said that should have been more aggressive and go 4 km from the finish today. The risk of having that bad moment and hitting a wall is still in the back of his mind. He wants to secure that podium this year now that he is in a great spot. I can understand this but if he wants to win the TdF one day, he needs to take the initiative on terrain that suits him. Following and winning TT's won't be sufficient against Pogacar and Vingegaard.
He's been excellent and intelligent when identifying his limits for this Tour and hopefully adjusting until Nice. Next year he'll have to decide if his entire schedule and some teammates need adjustments, too. He will get better but he's also chasing multiple winners that are hardly over the hill (no pun intended).
He could use a deeper squad for support.
I am getting pumped up about what could be a battle for second between vingo and ramco. I can see a situation where pogi just sits on vingo's wheel and watches him trying to deal with Remco.
Remind me of Several yrs ago after a GT (don’t remember which) stage, Bernal was on his warming down bike and tossed a ball of old tape at a trash can and missed badly. At that exact moment Roglic walked by and said, “Good thing you’re good at cycling—you’d be a terrible basketball player.”
Roglic would probably have crashed while throwing.
What I said, Dude. Pogacar may even have UAE set some tempo that allows those efforts. Work those two, trail the leader and win the stage.
Then take the final TT because that just shows who is the Boss. Sorry Bora, they're you're sponsor but not this Tour....
I was a very big doubter about Remco before and during the tour. But, for a Tour rookie especially, he has been very impressive. If he can turn in similar performances at high altitude I might become a fan.
I dunno; Eastern Europeans are much better basketball players than Columbians. That is not worth anything but had to respond on Primoz's behalf.
How may cyclists can actually throw a ball? Answer: all North Americans, some Canadians and every Central/South Americans.
If he goes to a proper GT team, undergoes further metamorphosis, he might win the Tour. The talent is there. The doubters cannot deny it now.
Obviously he is at top level and as you said it could be a different point of view on how everyone defines that "top level". What I was trying to say is that Vingegaard and specially Pogacar have showed higher performances in this Tour. We don't know what is going to happen with Vingo the last days, but in terms of absolute numbers, Pogacar and the danish have been at a higher level, so if he wants to win the Tour or at least be in a position to do it, I believe that he should do that steap ahead in the future. And I am not saying that he is down the expections, but I see him so ambicious to settle for a podium (talking about the future).
In fact, I am very satisfied with what he is doing this Tour and as I said before, I don't know if my desire to see him fighting for the Tour is so big that I am "overrating" him at this moment.
The most important conclusion from him is that he is showing a very strong performance, that he is becoming a better rider and the most important that he is having an increasing evolution.
I want to see him on the Alps, stages on high altitude, long climbs and three-four stages of high efforts in a row.
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