it's in the stage thread that was created for stage 17 in the clinic
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it's in the stage thread that was created for stage 17 in the clinic
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Job done voor Evenepoel en Soudal Quick-Step: 'Komende dagen gaan voor ons wat kalmer zijn'
Job done: dat was de enige conclusie die witte trui
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- May 3, 2010
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At this point defending the third place is the only sensible thing to do. UAE and Visma would never give him the freedom to take time back in the valleys, so by attacking wildly he would only blow himself up.
He's very likely to become the first Belgian on the podium in forty-three years. (Jurgen VDB was officially third, but not on the actual podium.) This would be a big step in his career, erasing all the doubts about his capacities in the high mountains and over three weeks. Hopefully he'll be spared of crashes and diseases, and climb that podium step on Sunday!
He's very likely to become the first Belgian on the podium in forty-three years. (Jurgen VDB was officially third, but not on the actual podium.) This would be a big step in his career, erasing all the doubts about his capacities in the high mountains and over three weeks. Hopefully he'll be spared of crashes and diseases, and climb that podium step on Sunday!
- Jun 7, 2011
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He also says there still may be some opportunities considering his margin to 4th/5th place is substantial. I think if he feels something is possible or Vingegaard shows some weakness, he might try something. But that he's not going to just do whatever it takes to try and take time on Vingegaard as if they were battling for yellow.Job done voor Evenepoel en Soudal Quick-Step: 'Komende dagen gaan voor ons wat kalmer zijn'
Job done: dat was de enige conclusie die witte trui
- Jan 31, 2016
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Your point is lost in the rush to find a trending/illegal boost in performance and the implication you make is a disingenuous nod to doping with absence of specific evidence . No one here is totally naive so that dialogue is real and has a venue. Go there and beat your drum or whatever gets you off.
As for the likelihood that every team involved in this particular stage would also be privy to that amazing beneficial nectar and respond identically and spectacularly; that's a unicorn fantasy proposition. All the wattage experts audit the part of the climb where everyone goes nuclear and are totally, strategically vested in "going til they blow" not to lose time. Remco settled earlier but the same thing occurred with him because all of these guys were racing ba*ls out in the f*ckn Tour de France! Dope or not; they had a phenomenal pacing setup that allowed them to throw down those "numbers" you use to vest your veiled argument.
Unless you can provide the profile for the entire stage with each rider's adjusted +/- effort compared to Pantani (from his millenium) or other Icon that's the reference point you don't have a serious comparable model. Oh, add the effort output for 4 or 5 stages prior as well.
As for Pogacar and Gianetti....again; that's not the same as Ferrari at a cost of nearly 7 figures a year for Armstrong and his sponsors when no other riders received that service. Get off that track if you're arguing a vague comparable to Pantani's climb or any other for that matter because your in deeper waters than your boots.
The fact that the better trained talent all laid down their best effort on the same day is not much of a conspiratorial coincidence. Every fan knew the sh*t would hit the fan when the stage was announced so it'd be surprising which riders weren't prepared. They all train better and smarter than the Armstrong era.
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Yeah but I don't see him attacking today for example. He won't force it himself knowing what is coming the following days.
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Most of the people here comparing the new with the old record are "forgetting" the conditions. The 98 pantani ride was the one where Ulrich had a flat tire just before the start of the climb. The whole group waited and there was little pacing on the first third / half. Pantani also rode the rest alone. He probably coukld have gone at least a minute, but probably 1.5 tot 2 minutes faster if the race scenario was like 2024.
You would expect the peleton to creep to the 98 ride over the years but PdB has not been in the Tour that much; Froome was in the rain in 2015. In 2011 Vanendert won, not really an all time great.
Yes Pog, Vinge and Remco are flying, but to me this is the best rider since Merckx who is challenging intense competitors like Vinge and Remco to catch up. Expect more records to follow.
You would expect the peleton to creep to the 98 ride over the years but PdB has not been in the Tour that much; Froome was in the rain in 2015. In 2011 Vanendert won, not really an all time great.
Yes Pog, Vinge and Remco are flying, but to me this is the best rider since Merckx who is challenging intense competitors like Vinge and Remco to catch up. Expect more records to follow.
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- May 15, 2017
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Good move by Remco, he seems to be in good form coming into this third week…
- Jun 7, 2011
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If Rodriguez/Almeida/... lost more time, he should really start considering attacking for 2nd.
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- Jan 10, 2019
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Looking forward to the next days. He looks strong. He will fight now for 2nd place. Podium seems safe for it.
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So he now has roughly 8 minutes on Almeida, Landa and Rodriguez. He's within 2 minutes of Vingegaard.
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- Jan 11, 2010
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I think he's the favourite for 2nd now. Vingegaard is fading. Evenepoel has found consistency, pretty surprising actually.
- Jan 10, 2019
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You never know in a GT. I take it day by day. Longer climbs again and Vingo may be better tomorrow, but I’m hoping he could gain some time so we have an exciting TT.
- Jul 7, 2013
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Nice try today. He gained a bit of time while the mutants visibly didn't want to cooperate. JV doms did their job as well.
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Remco is the opposite of Samson...he cut his hair and gained strength.
- Jan 11, 2010
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I don't know if that's really the case though. Then you use Vingegaard as the benchmark. Compared to Pogacar it's similar to the start.
- Jun 7, 2011
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Which of the two is surprising? I know i'm one of the few who voted Vingegaard to fade in the 3rd week in that poll. So that to me is not surprising. But we'll need to wait a few days because these guys have a habit of making us say stuff that makes us look like an ass a few days later.
Agreed. In fact, riders rarely get better as race goes on —they just maintain good form while others get worse.
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