Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

[red_flanders]

And a shame he never apologized about his claims about Evenepoel being poorly supervised and trained, guided by a bad nutritionist, being overweighted and then underweighted and the crash diet which caused it. Meanwhile, it was proven that these were only lies and provocations. What cycling experts and average members on this forum have known for a long time.

Can you please stop using the term “lies”? I don’t know if it’s a translation thing, but no one is “lying” to you, they just have a different opinion. And piling on someone who’s not here to respond ain’t a great look.

 

[Wvv]

Very curious about which Olympic tweaks his outfit will get. It's Quick Step, they should do something nice #goldenRemco

 

[Berniece]

Very curious about which Olympic tweaks his outfit will get. It's Quick Step, they should do something nice #goldenRemco

Hope it's subtle, and not too much in your face. Maybe they'll only pimp his bike, and not his outfit, since that already has rainbow stripes.

How much can they actually change while being in respect of the UCI rules. For example, can they make the red stripe above the Soudal logo only gold for him? Might defer too much from the rest.

 

[Wvv]

Very curious about which Olympic tweaks his outfit will get. It's Quick Step, they should do something nice #goldenRemco

Hope it's subtle, and not too much in your face. Maybe they'll only pimp his bike, and not his outfit, since that already has rainbow stripes.

How much can they actually change while being in respect of the UCI rules. For example, can they make the red stripe above the Soudal logo only gold for him? Might defer too much from the rest.

I really liked Greg's design at BMC. Some subtle golden lines on the shirt and bibs and tweaks on the helmet and bike.

 

[Berniece]

I really liked Greg's design at BMC. Some subtle golden lines on the shirt and bibs and tweaks on the helmet and bike.

That's indeed a nice jersey, but if you combine that with the rainbow stripes he has now, it might look cluttered.

 

[houtdffan]

If remco sweeps the worlds and becomes undisputed world champion, maybe a golden rainbow jersey is appropriate

 

[Wvv]

If remco sweeps the worlds and becomes undisputed world champion, maybe a golden rainbow jersey is appropriate

A rainbow jersey with golden sleeves and helmet.
Wouldn't that be something.

 

[houtdffan]

A rainbow jersey with golden sleeves and helmet.
Wouldn't that be something.

rather it be a completely gold colored jersey with the rainbow stripes

something unique for the only undisputed world champion (he need sot sweep the worlds first, however)

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Interview with Evenepoel in De Morgen a few of days ago. I contains some numbers.

Translation from Dutch:
"We have to find the balance where I can still compete for the win in the time trial and at the same time be 3, 4 or 5 percent better uphill. I think that is possible with 62 kilos.”"

About Tour de France: "I pushed the same wattages in all the mountain stages. Also in the last week, always around 6.1, 6.2 or 6.3 watts per kilo. That is exceptional. My level was higher than two years ago in the Vuelta."

Shame Logic is banned

This would imply he weight 63kg’s during the TDF. Doubt that a bit. I mean, a lot of mixed signals, but doesn’t really matter what the number is. The plan is to focus more on GT’s and changing his training for that.

Yeah, it gets a bit tedious. He was 61.5 during the '22 Vuelta, he was 63 during the '23 Giro. At the start of the TDF he was supposedly 61.5 again. And now he 'd have been 62 with a kilogram less. While he was visually leaner during the TDF than last year's Giro. Blowing smoke again.

rather it be a completely gold colored jersey with the rainbow stripes

something unique for the only undisputed world champion (he need sot sweep the worlds first, however)

That'd be nice, but i doubt it would be ok for the UCI. The Olympics =/= UCI.

 

[red_flanders]

Yeah, it gets a bit tedious. He was 61.5 during the '22 Vuelta, he was 63 during the '23 Giro. At the start of the TDF he was supposedly 61.5 again. And now he 'd have been 62 with a kilogram less. While he was visually leaner during the TDF than last year's Giro. Blowing smoke again.

Maybe we can finally all realize that no team is putting accurate weights out there, and hasn't since cycling began.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

After the OG, Evenepoel is now 4 wins out of 7 (or 57%) in races longer than 250km. He is now 8 wins out of 21 (or 38%) in races longer than 220km. Pogacar is (5/21) 23% and (9/32) 28%. Van der Poel is (7/26) 27% and (9/35) 26%.

 

[Peyroteo94]

After the OG, Evenepoel is now 4 wins out of 7 (or 57%) in races longer than 250km. He is now 8 wins out of 21 (or 38%) in races longer than 220km. Pogacar is (5/21) 23% and (9/32) 28%. Van der Poel is (7/26) 27% and (9/35) 26%.

Small sample, of course Remco's ratio will drop specially if he starts doing monuments that doesn't suit him like Flanders and MSR. Despite this, it is very impressive.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Small sample, of course Remco's ratio will drop specially if he starts doing monuments that doesn't suit him like Flanders and MSR. Despite this, it is very impressive.

Small sample? He has only one win less than Pogacar in both 250 and 220+km races. Even if he doesn't win any of the amount he has raced less, he'd still be practically tied. He only has to win 1 in 14 and 1 in 11 to tie with Pogacar, the so called best 1 day racer in the world.

 

[Red Rick]

6.3 doesn't exactly track with Pogacar doing supposedly 6.9 on PdB.

 

[Red Rick]

Small sample, of course Remco's ratio will drop specially if he starts doing monuments that doesn't suit him like Flanders and MSR. Despite this, it is very impressive.

Specifically against Pogacar Evenepoel is more favored in de Ronde and Paris Olympic style routes than LBL and Lombardia

 

[Peyroteo94]

Specifically against Pogacar Evenepoel is more favored in de Ronde and Paris Olympic style routes than LBL and Lombardia

No, he isn't (IMHO). In Quickstep, he doesn't have a WVA to mark his main rivals. He would be completely destroyed in Kwaremont By Pogacar.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

No, he isn't (IMHO). In Quickstep, he doesn't have a WVA to mark his main rivals. He would be completely destroyed in Kwaremont By Pogacar.

"destroyed on Kwaremont". Oh no, Pogacar will ride away 15 seconds on Kwaremont, whatever will Evenepoel do (besides catching Pogacar on the flat while twiddling his thumbs, whistling, picking his nose and reading the newspaper).

 

[Red Rick]

No, he isn't (IMHO). In Quickstep, he doesn't have a WVA to mark his main rivals. He would be completely destroyed in Kwaremont By Pogacar.

And there is 0 chance he ever gets away before?

Meanwhile, what is the wincondition in Liege?

 

[Red Rick]

"destroyed on Kwaremont". Oh no, Pogacar will ride away 15 seconds on Kwaremont, whatever will Evenepoel do (besides catching Pogacar on the flat while twiddling his thumbs, whistling, picking his nose and reading the newspaper).

Probably Evenepoel should actually just let him swim and catch him as late as possible.

 

[Peyroteo94]

And there is 0 chance he ever gets away before?

Meanwhile, what is the wincondition in Liege?

Not 0 chance but 1%. No way Pogacar would let Remco go. Do you remember stage 9 of the Tour? Pogacar didn't let Remco gaining more than 15 seconds

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Not 0 chance but 1%. No way Pogacar would let Remco go. Do you remember stage 9 of the Tour? Pogacar didn't let Remco gaining more than 15 seconds

We are talking about 250+km one day races, not 150+km stages in a 3 week race.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

"destroyed on Kwaremont". Oh no, Pogacar will ride away 15 seconds on Kwaremont, whatever will Evenepoel do (besides catching Pogacar on the flat while twiddling his thumbs, whistling, picking his nose and reading the newspaper).

If Remco is 15 seconds slower on Kwaremont, he‘s 100% behind MvdP in whatever scenario this is (except for the riding away with Pogačar beforehand scenario where I just don‘t see how he will win). He still needs to get the other two to look at each other.

 

[Red Rick]

Not 0 chance but 1%. No way Pogacar would let Remco go. Do you remember stage 9 of the Tour? Pogacar didn't let Remco gaining more than 15 seconds

Pretty sure I remember Evenepoel being allowed a gap in the first place.

 

[Peyroteo94]

We are talking about 250+km one day races, not 150+km stages in a 3 week race.

I wasn't saying Remco would be caught, I was saying Pogacar will not let Remco go away because he knows the danger.

 

[AmRacer]

We are talking about 250+km one day races, not 150+km stages in a 3 week race.

Same same. They won't let the other go, whether they succeed is another thing.