Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

[limak_]

Where's the guy who said, that due to the short preparation, they expected Remco to peak in 3rd week?

 

[Ripper]

Interested to find out if the foot was intentionally taken off the gas in order to lose time and allow for the last week to simply be completed safely. Or if it's reserves are completely exhausted. Obviously, whether he continues or not will be one of the tell-tale signs.

There are training advantages to completing another week if he is not at exhaustion or risk of injury.

 

[PhiLiz]

Again losing time because of the terrible help by Almeida. What a disgrace...

 

[LesDiablesRouges]

What happened today? Was it due to bad technique??

Why do you ask questions when you know the answer?

Have you ever competed in anything of any significance?

Always love keyboard jockeys.

 

[Bardamu]

Where's the guy who said, that due to short preparation, they expected Remco to peak in 3rd week?

half of the guys here you mean

 

[limak_]

There are training advantages to completing another week

Can you explain me that further?

 

[pvieira91]

Why do you ask questions when you know the answer?

Have you ever competed in anything of any significance?

Always love keyboard jockeys.

I true admire Remco and I think we will be a unique cyclist. I'm just messing with "Logic is your friend"

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Some difficult lessons learnt during his first GT. Should be more ready next time, with better preparations (both physical and technical).

 

[Valanga]

half of the guys here you mean

To be fair, most of those said "Either he will fade completely, or peak in the last week".
A bit like the weather men telling us it might rain or might stay dry.

 

[Ripper]

Can you explain me that further?

The short version is the training stress load and experience that the third week of GT would uniquely provide.

 

[groogster]

Lefevere will take him out. Tomorrow he'll be sent home i'm prety sure. He should stay, try to win a stage and help João as a good domestique

 

[Riek s]

Can you explain me that further?

Besides the experience, he completely lacks endurance now. with a rest-day tomorrow and only 5days remaining. He can just put himself in the groupetto and build up some endurance. Of course that is only possible if he isn't running on fumes... which is unclear.

 

[ice&fire]

What happened today? Was it due to bad technique??

It happened that Lefevere does not have the balls of Guimard, who didn't let Hinault ride a GT until he was 24.
I know that having the two most recent TDF winners in mind does not help, but still...

 

[Panda Claws]

And now the vultures appear.

 

[limak_]

The short version is the training stress load and experience that the third week of GT would uniquely provide.

Besides the experience, he completely lacks endurance now. with a rest-day tomorrow and only 5days remaining. He can just put himself in the groupetto and build up some endurance. Of course that is only possible if he isn't running on fumes... which is unclear.

The uniqueness of GT's 3rd week stress and load could actually be quite harmful if you're so underprepared (even if not that much exhausted or injured). I've never heard anyone racing Giro just for the unique training conditions it provides in 3rd week.

Yes, he obviously lacks endurance (that'd be a miracle if he wasn't), but why to build it up during Giro? (I'm also reffering to him doing this Giro at all). Training camps, a series of one-day races, 1-week races are the places when you build your endurance.
Why Slovenians are not doing the Giro as a preparation for the Tour, if it really is that beneficial? Why they actually decided not to do much racing and prepare calmly in a more controlled conditions of the training camps?

 

[pvieira91]

Let's hope he stays in the giro so he can help the leader

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

Anyone know where Remco did the majority of his training prior to the Giro?

I didn't pay attention to it but heard or read that he trained in the Ardennes ...and with the team around Calpe, Spain and on Tenerife. I'm guessing that's not all, as it's not the best prep for the mountains of the Giro. There's like one big climb in Tenerife with passable gradients.

 

[Panda Claws]

Anyone know where Remco did the majority of his training prior to the Giro?

I didn't pay attention to it but heard or read that he trained in the Ardennes ...and with the team around Calpe, Spain and on Tenerife. I'm guessing that's not all, as it's not the best prep for the mountains of the Giro. There's like one big climb in Tenerife with passable gradients.

He did do an altitude training in Pardollano in the Sierra Nevada along with Almeida. I don't know how the climbs are there though.

 

[Riek s]

The uniqueness of GT's 3rd week stress and load could actually be quite harmful if you're so underprepared (even if not that much exhausted or injured). I've never heard anyone racing Giro just for the unique training conditions it provides in 3rd week.

Yes, he obviously lacks endurance (that'd be a miracle if he wasn't), but why to build it up during Giro? (I'm also reffering to him doing this Giro at all). Training camps, a series of one-day races, 1-week races are the places when you build your endurance.
Why Slovenians are not doing the Giro as a preparation for the Tour, if it really is that beneficial? Why they actually decided not to do much racing and prepare calmly in a more controlled conditions of the training camps?

Well Ullrich did once He did everything on his own tempo back than. Only in the TT he tried his best and all other stages were like training rides for him.

But of course Remco did two weeks into the red.. so maybe it is to late already. Still if you have the energy and are still recuperating from low intensity efforts I believe riding the 3rd week within the green/orange zone would still be helpful.

 

[peterfin]

Remco said after the finish that he had an off-day and that this was something they knew could happen. He also said that he would now evaluate what he can do for Almeida and the team. He said that he definitely wants to finish in Milan.

 

[luckyboy]

After Sestola, Ascoli, Campo Felice I heard that he's a diesel who will only make up time on these long climbs. Where are all those deluded people today..

 

[arquipelagoGulag]

Let's hope he stays in the giro so he can help the leader

It should have been like that since stage 1, but it's better late than never.

 

[Riek s]

After Sestola, Ascoli, Campo Felice I heard that he's a diesel who will only make up time on these long climbs. Where are all those deluded people today..

I guess those people accept that 3 month preparation from starting to walk to GT is too little.. What they said isn't necessarily wrong when talking about Evenepoel, it might just not be applicable to him given the circumstances.

Let's hope he stays in the giro so he can help the leader

It should have been like that since stage 1, but it's better late than never.

Why would he support Bernal?

 

[kingjr]

Well Ullrich did once He did everything on his own tempo back than. Only in the TT he tried his best and all other stages were like training rides for him.

Twice.

 

[Panda Claws]

After Sestola, Ascoli, Campo Felice I heard that he's a diesel who will only make up time on these long climbs. Where are all those deluded people today..

Nah you heard people unwilling to make conclusions about longer climbs based on Evenepoel not being explosive. That was not an unreasonable stance.

Are you of the school of thought that thinks that people who expected Froome to become a world-beater in Vuelta 2011 where geniuses? The outcome of a prediction does not determine whether that prediction was reasonable to make.