Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Passed the test.

Once again.
So what's the next test?

 

[Red Rick]

Once again.
So what's the next test?

Switserlandia

 

[Netserk]

Rest assured I don't follow anyone's posts enough to know why you seem triggered by my comments, but do heckle on!

Heckle? I'm not aggressive nor offensive, I point out how tiring and lame the countless strawmen of 'detractors' are. As if the world is united in hating him and no one ever gives him credit.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Switserlandia

By the time he graduates from all these tests, he'll die of old age. Maybe that's why Valverde is still riding.

 

[Carrick-On-Seine]

By the time he graduates from all these tests, he'll die of old age. Maybe that's why Valverde is still riding.

There's a point. He might have been able to beat riders of his own age today but would he have beaten a 42 year old?

 

[red_flanders]

There's a point. He might have been able to beat riders of his own age today but would he have beaten a 42 year old?

He did in San Sebastian but everyone was tired from the Tour and no one really cares about such a minor classic.

 

[Extinction]

Well he beat Tao Goegeghan Hart handsomely in a critical preparation phase, so not exactly chopped liver.

 

[Big Doopie]

Well he beat Tao Goegeghan Hart handsomely in a critical preparation phase, so not exactly chopped liver.

indeed, maybe time to revisit the outcome of the 2020 giro without The Crash...

;-)

 

[LesDiablesRouges]

Win 28 puts Evenepoel ahead of Belgian cycling legend
Briek Schotte (1939-1959) (27 wins)- 2x world champion, 2x RvV winner for wins

Ties him at 46th place for Belgians in wins with Belgian legends
Andre Dierickx (1968-1981) 2x winner La Fleche Wallonne, 2x stage wins Dauphine, 2nd RvV, 2nd Paris Roubaix, 2nd LBL
Jean Aerts - (1927-1936) 1x world champion, 12 stages TDF, 1x Belgian RR champion, 3rd RvV, 3rd Paris Roubaix
Raymond Impanis (1946-1963) - 2x GC Paris-Nice, 1x winner Paris Roubaix, 1x winner RvV, 1x LaFleche Wallonne, 2x winner Gent-Wevelgem, 4x runner-up LBL, 3 GC La Vuelta

 

[DoYouEvenRideBruh]

Win 28 puts Evenepoel ahead of Belgian cycling legend
Briek Schotte (1939-1959) (27 wins)- 2x world champion, 2x RvV winner for wins

Ties him at 46th place for Belgians in wins with Belgian legends
Andre Dierickx (1968-1981) 2x winner La Fleche Wallonne, 2x stage wins Dauphine, 2nd RvV, 2nd Paris Roubaix, 2nd LBL
Jean Aerts - (1927-1936) 1x world champion, 12 stages TDF, 1x Belgian RR champion, 3rd RvV, 3rd Paris Roubaix
Raymond Impanis (1946-1963) - 2x GC Paris-Nice, 1x winner Paris Roubaix, 1x winner RvV, 1x LaFleche Wallonne, 2x winner Gent-Wevelgem, 4x runner-up LBL, 3 GC La Vuelta

This post makes it look like all these guys died before 20 (and achieved a surprising amount in their short lives).

 

[Samu Cuenca]

You also can't compare their victories like that. Schotte and Aerts, for instance, have won many smaller Belgian races, which were worth a lot more to them back then compaired to the non-pro races of today.

 

[Salvarani]

Switserlandia

To fulfill his prophecy as the true heir to the great Spilak.

 

[LesDiablesRouges]

You also can't compare their victories like that. Schotte and Aerts, for instance, have won many smaller Belgian races which were worth a lot more to them back then.

Sure but we don't have relaible kermesse records for older riders, and ultiamtely we can only compare across similar/same races.

Also, I would love to get a good valuation system to rate riders that does an excellent job of rating the value of a win.


I wsa jsut posting what appears to be the win totals in races that currently count as pro wins.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Sure but we don't have relaible kermesse records for older riders, and ultiamtely we can only compare across similar/same races.

Also, I would love to get a good valuation system to rate riders that does an excellent job of rating the value of a win.


I wsa jsut posting what appears to be the win totals in races that currently count as pro wins.

Sure, but I don't think it tells you that much. If these riders had been riding today, they would probably have had more pro wins than that.
That doesn't take anything away from Remco's performances though.

 

[houtdffan]

If Remco wins Suisse, QS HAS to let him race the tour then. He'd be in shape to contend. Plus, more TT km

If he lays an egg, stick with the Vuelta plan

 

[Big Doopie]

If Remco wins Suisse, QS HAS to let him race the tour then. He'd be in shape to contend. Plus, more TT km

If he lays an egg, stick with the Vuelta plan

no. stick with the plan as is.

appears to be working very well.

despite all the early season jitters and criticisms (mine included!).

he is 22.

pog has totally altered all expectations. :-(

 

[Flurk1982]

If Remco wins Suisse, QS HAS to let him race the tour then. He'd be in shape to contend. Plus, more TT km

If he lays an egg, stick with the Vuelta plan

With the cobles stage in the tour and all the media attention in Belgium? No way, in all scenario's he should stick to the initial plan and do the vuelta. Otherwise they make the same error as last year.

 

[Offline]

Can see him win Suisse. But for the Tour he can max be stage hunting. The Vuelta I can see him do top 5 but no way he wins.

 

[peterfin]

The Vuelta I can see him do top 5 but no way he wins.

The probability is definitely not zero.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

If Remco wins Suisse, QS HAS to let him race the tour then. He'd be in shape to contend. Plus, more TT km

If he lays an egg, stick with the Vuelta plan

Sometimes a good result in Dauphine/Suisse can also mean the rider has peaked too early and will burn out during the Tour. But if he could win a few stages before then it obviously wouldn't be bad for the team.

 

[DoYouEvenRideBruh]

No doubt about it, this was an insane performance. For those unconvinced, here is LR's review of the stage:

His parody of people asking 'but who did he beat' is especially entertaining.

 

[Blanco]

Sure but we don't have relaible kermesse records for older riders, and ultiamtely we can only compare across similar/same races.

Also, I would love to get a good valuation system to rate riders that does an excellent job of rating the value of a win.


I wsa jsut posting what appears to be the win totals in races that currently count as pro wins.

According to Cycling Archives Briek Schotte had 46 road victories (excluding criteriums).
Impanis also had 46.
Aerts had 37.
And Andre Dierickx had 78.

 

[jfazendeiro]

A few months ago it was clear for this forum that he couldn't climb. Now he does this and people start speaking about winning Suisse and a top result at Vuelta.

 

[Lequack]

He will win the Vuelta! Others will be tired from the Tour or just not up to par.

 

[LesDiablesRouges]

According to Cycling Archives Briek Schotte had 46 road victories (excluding criteriums).
Impanis also had 46.
Aerts had 37.
And Andre Dierickx had 78.

Time to update my sources Thank you for the source