Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

[Big Doopie]

Ideally, he's saving energy, worst case he's getting ill. We'll see x)

yup. Lots of riders suffering from the heat.

 

[Extinction]

Conta was supposed to race the Dauphine and humiliate ASO that year. That was when ASO was all out against Bryuneel and refused to allow Bruyneel's team race.

He was a few weeks before reaching his peak when he raced that Giro

Contador was ironically hampered by Bryuneel, riding as he did in the wake of the Armstrong era, because, unlike the American, he never got the benefits of a "Golden Age."

 

[Cookster15]

Astana was invited to the Giro a WEEK before it started. While he wasn't exactly devoid of racing (and hence the smiley face), he also certainly hadn't prepared specifically for the Giro. Not sure what about that it so annoying? Whether he actually was on the beach when he got the call no one but the team knows, but certainly it was impressive that he was able to win given his sub-optimal prep.

I am aware of this and doesn't change my opinion of the hype. Contador beat Ricco who never achieved anything of note other than clinic notoriety and Marzio Bruseghin. Hardly world beaters. Very weak field and the condition Contador had was more than adequate despite the disrupted prep. There were other riders of that time who would have also cleaned up had they raced. Contador was certainly training, "sitting on a beach" implies he wasn't riding which is hype and nonsense.

 

[Extinction]

I am aware of this and doesn't change my opinion of the hype. Contador beat Ricco who never achieved anything of note other than clinic notoriety and Marzio Bruseghin. Hardly world beaters. Very weak field and the condition Contador had was more than adequate despite the disrupted prep. There were other riders of that time who would have also cleaned up had they raced. Contador was certainly training, "sitting on a beach" implies he wasn't riding which is hype and nonsense.

Wait a second, Ricco, whatever was behind It, was a bad as ***.

 

[red_flanders]

I am aware of this and doesn't change my opinion of the hype. Contador beat Ricco who never achieved anything of note other than clinic notoriety and Marzio Bruseghin. Hardly world beaters. Very weak field and the condition Contador had was more than adequate despite the disrupted prep. There were other riders of that time who would have also cleaned up had they raced. Contador was certainly training, "sitting on a beach" implies he wasn't riding which is hype and nonsense.

His prep wasn't "disrupted", he straight up wasn't prepping for the Giro. Contador was an amazing rider. That it still bothers you might be more about you, not him.

 

[Big Doopie]

Sorry but the Contador 2008 Giro "sitting on a beach" claim has annoyed me for 14 years . Its not something I would joke about because some of his fanboys actually believed it. Alberto was a fantastic rider but is subject to the same rules of human physiology as everyone else.

Lol he was also under bruyneel. Discussing what he was able to do and y literally cannot be honestly discussed in this part of the forum.

 

[Cookster15]

His prep wasn't "disrupted", he straight up wasn't prepping for the Giro. Contador was an amazing rider. That it still bothers you might be more about you, not him.

That's not nice. I am just watering down a long time myth which wasn't challenged much at the time or sadly since it seems. . Edit: I know he was an amazing rider. But he is also human.

 

[red_flanders]

I look forward to Remco generating his own mythology, getting back to the topic…

Maybe he gets the TDF call while at the pub and trounces the field this year.

 

[Extinction]

I look forward to Remco generating his own mythology, getting back to the topic…

Maybe he gets the TDF call while at the pub and trounces the field this year.

I'd like to see it, but everything is so calculated so it won't happen.

 

[Sciatic]

Relax, Francis. You missed the smiley face?

Sometimes I think you need the winky face with the smiley—though I understood you were cajoling

 

[red_flanders]

Sometimes I think you need the winky face with the smiley—though I understood you were cajoling

Good point. Also a pretty old and random movie reference...

 

[Extinction]

Just read an interview of Marta Cavalli in today's la Gazzetta dello Sport, recent winner of Mount Ventoux Challenge as well as Amstel and Fleche-Wallonne this spring. Her approach to the coming Giro Femminile sounds perfect for Remco and the Tour: "I don't want to focus on a specific objective, to not live the delusion should it not arrive. I only want to arrive in good condition to play my own cards."

I know he's not going, but one is free to fantasize.

 

[Andre]

Just read an interview of Marta Cavalli in today's la Gazzetta dello Sport, recent winner of Mount Ventoux Challenge as well as Amstel and Fleche-Wallonne this spring. Her approach to the coming Giro Femminile sounds perfect for Remco and the Tour: "I don't want to focus on a specific objective, to not live the delusion should it not arrive. I only want to arrive in good condition to play my own cards."

I know he's not going, but one is free to fantasize.

Remco will race Le Tour of 2023...not 2022.

 

[Riek s]

well the tour of suisse won't learn us anything it seems. (or that he can't handle the heat if he isn't sick)

 

[dutchdescent]

well the tour of suisse won't learn us anything it seems. (or that he can't handle the heat if he isn't sick)

Cannot stay with the best it seems

 

[wheresmybrakes]

If it's the heat that bothers him, then the Vuelta will be a very good idea.

 

[Red Rick]

The Test is canceled.

 

[Extinction]

Remco will race Le Tour of 2023...not 2022.

Doubtless and, unfortunately, he did not go well today.

 

[Lequack]

Given that he crushed everyone in Norway, it's either the heat or Covid.

 

[Extinction]

Give that he crushed everyone in Norway, it's either the heat or Covid.

Yes, I did not expect him to loose time today, let alone that much.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Remco beaten by Pinot in the heat

 

[Extinction]

Wasn't it really hot though when he won San Sebastian? He shouldn't have problems with heat, no?

 

[Big Doopie]

Given that he crushed everyone in Norway, it's either the heat or Covid.

yes, and this is the ongoing difficulty in situating him.

here is a guy who arguably looked strongest on the first day over somewhat similar terrain.

here is a guy who dominates lesser stage races in a way that other top riders are unable.

here is a guy who can dominate any single-day race on a given day.

however, he has also shown his greatest weaknesses when dealing with successive days in pro tour level stage races.

all sorts of excuses can be made for these defeats and many are valid. for instance, in a way, i hope that it is the heat (or even Covid) this time.

but ultimately he does have to prove capable of doing it.

 

[KenFiamingo]

That's a DNS tomorrow.

 

[wheresmybrakes]

So he just said he didn't have the legs today, looked rather warm he did. Always tomorrow for him.