Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

[Logic-is-your-friend]

only for those who are of the viewpoint that the TDF is the only thing that matters

I don't understand. If you were to say this about Vingegaard, i could understand, but surely Pogacar has shown both his interest as well as his talent go beyond exclusively TDF.

 

[Nick2413]

only for those who are of the viewpoint that the TDF is the only thing that matters

Definitely not true. Take away his TdFs and he’s still one of the biggest winners in all types of races including monuments in recent years.

 

[Gratemans]

only for those who are of the viewpoint that the TDF is the only thing that matters

This most be some weird form of sarcasm or something..

 

[johnymax]

I think @houtdffan wanted to say Pogačar isn't THE BIG THING only for those who view TdF as the only race that matters. For those Vingegaard would be THE BIG THING right now. Or at least that's how I interpreted

 

[houtdffan]

I don't understand. If you were to say this about Vingegaard, i could understand, but surely Pogacar has shown both his interest as well as his talent go beyond exclusively TDF.

Its saying Remco also isn't the big thing as one did upthread. Both Pog and Remco are the big things. The alpha males.

Remco just came off a season where he outperformed Pog bit a small amount. How can he not be a big thing when he beat the big thing over an entire season?

 

[Gargamel35]

Pogacar is THE big thing now so can’t be the next big thing.

They are basically the same age and Pogačar is the most complete Racer on the planet. He's the big thing now and can be the next big thing for years. Winning 2 TdF, podium Vuelta, winning 1 week long Races and monuments. Missing world title yet. Remco is not on his level. He barely won Vuelta against an injured guy that crashes a lot.

 

[houtdffan]

They are basically the same age and Pogačar is the most complete Racer on the planet. He's the big thing now and can be the next big thing for years. Winning 2 TdF, podium Vuelta, winning 1 week long Races and monuments. Missing world title yet. Remco is not on his level. He barely won Vuelta against an injured guy that crashes a lot.

I'll quote James Hunt, as his quote is appropriate to your post

"All I'll say to that is bull sh*t"

I take it you missed Remco schooling Pog at the worlds.

Those like you are those who I was mentioning, looking for anyone to overshadow an obviously superior athlete

 

[Gargamel35]

I'll quote James Hunt, as his quote is appropriate to your post

"All I'll say to that is bull sh*t"

I take it you missed Remco schooling Pog at the worlds.

Those like you are those who I was mentioning, looking for anyone to overshadow an obviously superior athlete

Oh you didn't see Pog schooling Remco on the biggest race in the world? Right, Remco wasn't there. He's not obviously superior athlete by any stretch of imagination.

 

[tobydawq]

only for those who are of the viewpoint that the TDF is the only thing that matters

What an absolutely bizarre comment.

 

[Red Rick]

What an absolutely bizarre comment.

I mean rEmCo is bigger than the Tour, as the Tour has to make a Tour route specifically to get rEmCo to come.

Seriously, I think it's perfectly fair to say Evenepoel is a better rider than Van Aert, Roglic and Vingegaard. But then when you have to trash Pogacar to make rEmCo the #1 rider the hilarity comes out.

 

[frisenfruitig]

The only thing I would say Remco is superior at is probably time trialing and long solo efforts, but not by much. Pogacar is certainly a more complete rider than Remco, there is no denying that.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

I mean rEmCo is bigger than the Tour, as the Tour has to make a Tour route specifically to get rEmCo to come.

Seriously, I think it's perfectly fair to say Evenepoel is a better rider than Van Aert, Roglic and Vingegaard. But then when you have to trash Pogacar to make rEmCo the #1 rider the hilarity comes out.

Remco has never lost Liege, Pogacar has

Remco has never lost la Vuelta, Pogacar has

Remco has never lost San Sebastian classic, Pogacar has

Remco has never lost le Tour, pogacar has

Remco is world champion

Food for thought

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Remco has never lost le Tour, pogacar has

 

[tobydawq]

Remco has never lost Liege, Pogacar has

Remco has never lost la Vuelta, Pogacar has

Remco has never lost San Sebastian classic, Pogacar has

Remco has never lost le Tour, pogacar has

Remco is world champion

Food for thought

Well, you're not wrong.

 

[gregrowlerson]

Remco has never lost Liege, Pogacar has

Remco has never lost la Vuelta, Pogacar has

Remco has never lost San Sebastian classic, Pogacar has

Remco has never lost le Tour, pogacar has

Remco is world champion

Food for thought

More for the forum to waffle about.

 

[Bonimenier]

The only thing I would say Remco is superior at is probably time trialing and long solo efforts, but not by much. Pogacar is certainly a more complete rider than Remco, there is no denying that.

He's better at TT and at climbing, both quite vital aspects for a GT rider.

 

[Andy schleck]

I'll quote James Hunt, as his quote is appropriate to your post

"All I'll say to that is bull sh*t"

I take it you missed Remco schooling Pog at the worlds.

Those like you are those who I was mentioning, looking for anyone to overshadow an obviously superior athlete

Remco is so better than pogacar that he is running away from the tour this year, because he knows he can't beat pogacar and vingegaard in a grand tour race.
Pogacar wouldn't get dropped in a grand tour by Mas.

 

[Red Rick]

Hello dankness my old friend

 

[Bonimenier]

Remco is so better than pogacar that he is running away from the tour this year, because he knows he can't beat pogacar and vingegaard in a grand tour race.
Pogacar wouldn't get dropped in a grand tour by Mas.

He did get dropped by Mas on a parcours tailormade for someone with Pogacars qualities however. And that shortly after Mas got schooled by Remco for 3 weeks.

 

[SHAD0W93]

Gosh, Mas is getting destroyed for no reason when comparing the top 4

 

[Gargamel35]

It's Mas we are talking about here. 5 to 10 position GC rider that never wins anything. If you guys want to prove Remco is nr. 1 and the biggest thing in cycling since the invention of a wheel you should stop comparing him with second class riders. You just don't get it, that he's not as good as you want him to be. And that doesn't mean he's bad at all.

He's top 5 GC rider (4th place right now with chances to move up to third), around top 5 in 1 week races and top 3 classics rider. And world champion. Good enough in my book but NOT the best in the peloton. Not even if you put it all together.

 

[Red Rick]

Mas is the David Ferrer of cycling.

 

[Bonimenier]

It's Mas we are talking about here. 5 to 10 position GC rider that never wins anything. If you guys want to prove Remco is nr. 1 and the biggest thing in cycling since the invention of a wheel you should stop comparing him with second class riders. You just don't get it, that he's not as good as you want him to be. And that doesn't mean he's bad at all.

He's top 5 GC rider (4th place right now with chances to move up to third), around top 5 in 1 week races and top 3 classics rider. And world champion. Good enough in my book but NOT the best in the peloton. Not even if you put it all together.

No idea who besides Vingegaard you put in your top 3 GC riders. Hindley? Carapaz?

 

[Gargamel35]

No idea who besides Vingegaard you put in your top 3 GC riders. Hindley? Carapaz?

Yeah i understand you have no idea.

 

[Elos Anjos]

Remco has never lost Liege, Pogacar has

Remco has never lost la Vuelta, Pogacar has

Remco has never lost San Sebastian classic, Pogacar has

Remco has never lost le Tour, pogacar has

Remco is world champion

Food for thought

Remco better than Roglic