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Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

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Let's first see how he is after covid, he looked 20 years older after that Giro ITT and someone like Ganna still hasn'd full recovered from it and is skipping the TdS. From what I've heared Gesink was also feeling pretty bad for some time.
I wonder if there is frequent testing on his lung function.. Don't know about lasting effects or recovery in elite, elite athletes.. but for whatever reasons Remco and his circle are proceeding cautiously I respect their decisions and am super disappointed that he will not contest TDF stages..
 
Sporza doesn’t quote him completely, which is weird. In HLN the quote is:



So a bit more nuanced
A bit but the message is pretty much the same. He fears the press and he don't want to let down his team. It would help him to be a bit more the "stoic Roglic". The best thing that can happen now is that he performs great in the TDS and that an opportunity arises to enter the tour squad because somebody can't start. His "wolf pack" mentality might be greater than fear of the press.
 
Watch Slaying the Badger. Kochli clearly states Lemond was told not to ride with Roche, but he was free to attack Roche

Hinault was only about 1 minute behind Lemond. Lemond is LYING. Yes, he got bogus info from a CBS cameraman in real time. However, the edited post processed CBS footbage clearly stated Lemond was only ever about a minute ahead

Here is the post processed cbs telecast

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZY9287pYZM
wait u believe Koechli?

Ah well forget it then.
 
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No tdf but already bragging about big altitude training ride before tdsuiss .
Where have your read about altitude training before Tour de Suisse? According to his Strava he’s only been training in Belgium since he got healthy from Covid. I’m not that familiar with Belgium but I don’t think they have locations suited for altitude training….
 
Where have your read about altitude training before Tour de Suisse? According to his Strava he’s only been training in Belgium since he got healthy from Covid. I’m not that familiar with Belgium but I don’t think they have locations suited for altitude training….
Evenepoel has installed a HC climb in his basement.
 
I do. Koechli had to scream at Lemond to attack in 1986 on the ADH stage if he wanted to win the tour as well
Seriously, what are you talking about? Hinault attacked his teammate who was in yellow. Why was he even doing that? Then Lemond joins him and the team owner told them to arrive hand in hand, told Greg to let Hinault win as he had basically won the tour. Hinault, knowing exactly what it would look like, told Lemond to stay in his wheel the entire way up the ADH. Lemond was happy enough to comply as he was concerned of being attacked by a rabid Hinault fan (remember Merckx was punched only 11 years before). He says they went up it like a training ride…then during the press conference afterwards Hinault announces that the tour is not over between them. Meanwhile, he had just ensured that LeMond could not take more time out of him on ADH as no doubt he could.

View: https://youtu.be/tsN8a4AKvhY

You do know that Godet warned Lemond to be careful because there were a lot of people who didn’t want him to win. Lemond was rightfully paranoid and did all sorts of precautions with his food and doping tests.

Consider the source. Koechli was a seriously weird dude, who also feared doing anything against Hinault or the team owner.
 
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Seriously, what are you talking about? Hinault attacked his teammate who was in yellow. Why was he even doing that? Then Lemond joins him and the team owner told them to arrive hand in hand, told Greg to let Hinault win as he had basically won the tour. Hinault, knowing exactly what it would look like, told Lemond to stay in his wheel the entire way up the ADH. Lemond was happy enough to comply as he was concerned of being attacked by a rabid Hinault fan (remember Merckx was punched only 11 years before). He says they went up it like a training ride…then during the press conference afterwards Hinault announces that the tour is not over between them. Meanwhile, he had just ensured that LeMond could not take more time out of him on ADH as no doubt he could.

View: https://youtu.be/tsN8a4AKvhY

You do know that Godet warned Lemond to be careful because there were a lot of people who didn’t want him to win. Lemond was rightfully paranoid and did all sorts of precautions with his food and doping tests.

Consider the source. Koechli was a seriously weird dude, who also feared doing anything against Hinault or the team owner.

Hinault was the team owner. In slaying the badger, Hinault said Tapie was merely the sponsor and that he did not listen to sponsors
 
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Lance basically had heat stroke.

He was dropped in the first 2 Pyrenean stages as well. Was somewhat similar to Remco last year in TDS
Lance had heat stroke!? And you believe THAT!? A sociopathic liar!? Holy crap.

They also said he lost like ten liters of liquids during one ITT. it was a ridiculous claim/explanation for a counter-performance which was likely due to the much more nefarious practices of those times.

Seriously? You can’t buy anything that freaking Armstrong says. This is hopeless.
 
The notion that he needs to be at 150%, whatever the actual *** that means, to start the Tour is one I’ll never understand. Because expectations? Like he’s the only rider with such expectations. Absurd.

I get that he wants to hit it on form the first time he does it, and that’s fine. But making it sound like that’s the only way he can do it, because of external forces just makes him sound foolish.
 
The notion that he needs to be at 150%, whatever the actual *** that means, to start the Tour is one I’ll never understand. Because expectations? Like he’s the only rider with such expectations. Absurd.

I get that he wants to hit it on form the first time he does it, and that’s fine. But making it sound like that’s the only way he can do it, because of external forces just makes him sound foolish.
If he's total crap at TdS that's one thing. You don't send a young rider to the Tour for the first time who is not in form. But if he's really good in TdS, which is used to fine tune for the Tour, then I find no reason not to have him at the start in Bilbao.

Now he says he would not be doing TdS if he were out of shape. So I guess that means he's there or thereabouts for a top spot on GC. And if he's good enough to, let's say, get on the podium at the TdS, how would that not be in line with arriving in peak shape at the Tour? It's what Thomas, for example, did last year, which got him third at the subsequent Tour. And I think Soudal would be crazy to give up a third at the Tour with Evenepoel in his first go at the hardest, most competitive race in the world.

Yet I wouldn't be at all surprised were Soudal to do just this and then perhaps see Remco prepare fully for the Tour next year, only to get Giro outcomes. It's madness. You don't sit down in moments when action is called for. You strike while the iron is hot.

At this point I really hope Remco gets dropped like a stone in the mountains in TdS, so there is no question not to send him to the Tour. Since if Evenepoel is flying in the TTs and stays with the best in the mountains of Switzerland and Soudal still maintains these lame reasons (when I hear Remco talk, I'm listening to Soudal's voice) not to have him present in Bilbao, I'll be hoping for a move to Ineos next year.
 
Evenepoel explains why going to the Tour was never an option after his DNF in the Giro. There is no way for him to start without major expectations and when he goes to the Tour he wants to be 150%, which is impossible now. He says he was getting sicker the first days after the positive covid test. He wasn't able to ride a bike for 10 days, and after his Giro peak, it wouldn't be possible to get the same level for the Tour.

Google translated article:

Aw, all he needed was a good math teacher to tell him that you can't be above 100% of your level, and then he might have gone to the Tour :(
 
The notion that he needs to be at 150%, whatever the actual *** that means, to start the Tour is one I’ll never understand. Because expectations? Like he’s the only rider with such expectations. Absurd.

I get that he wants to hit it on form the first time he does it, and that’s fine. But making it sound like that’s the only way he can do it, because of external forces just makes him sound foolish.
Everything was set for a peak in May. Trying to peak in July without rebuilding some of your training base is gonna be unpredictable. I think it's more likely he's good in Suisse and struggles in the 3rd week of the Tour, at which point you've succesfully ruined what was left of your season.
 
Everything was set for a peak in May. Trying to peak in July without rebuilding some of your training base is gonna be unpredictable. I think it's more likely he's good in Suisse and struggles in the 3rd week of the Tour, at which point you've succesfully ruined what was left of your season.
On the other hand, if he doesn't struggle in the 3rd week he may have successfully ruined his career potential.
 
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Seriously, what are you talking about? Hinault attacked his teammate who was in yellow. Why was he even doing that? Then Lemond joins him and the team owner told them to arrive hand in hand, told Greg to let Hinault win as he had basically won the tour. Hinault, knowing exactly what it would look like, told Lemond to stay in his wheel the entire way up the ADH. Lemond was happy enough to comply as he was concerned of being attacked by a rabid Hinault fan (remember Merckx was punched only 11 years before). He says they went up it like a training ride…then during the press conference afterwards Hinault announces that the tour is not over between them. Meanwhile, he had just ensured that LeMond could not take more time out of him on ADH as no doubt he could.

View: https://youtu.be/tsN8a4AKvhY

You do know that Godet warned Lemond to be careful because there were a lot of people who didn’t want him to win. Lemond was rightfully paranoid and did all sorts of precautions with his food and doping tests.

Consider the source. Koechli was a seriously weird dude, who also feared doing anything against Hinault or the team owner.
houtdffan is definitely trying to rewrite history here, seems to me. I vividly remember that whole mid-late 80's period and it's safe to say LeMond basically was up against it that whole period. Even in his '89 tour (post-gunshot), he finished with 3 teammates (ADR), the best being over 2 hours down and none of whom could or would do a lick of work for him. He essentially won that one on his own. As far as the 85 and 86 Tours are concerned, his greatest weakness was A) being American, and B) that he was too nice a guy; his career might have benefitted from him being a calculating, selfish *** like Hinault. Even his wife mentions he was just lacking in 'méchanceté'; Hinault on the other hand was dripping with it.

The guy was world champion in 83 as a 21 year old, won it solo with zero team help, Cyrille flipping Guimard flies halfway around the world to sign him, and on and on. If LeMond had been French and had a personality like Hinault's, and not been shot by his idiot brother-in-law he'd have won every Tour from 85 to 92; so much of his career was spent with indifferent to non-existent team support due to his being American. Go to his wiki page and check out his palmares; much of his career story is boiled down to the gunshot and rivalry with Hinault but in spite of the fact he wasn't part of the European clique he compiled an incredible record. He was a brilliant one day racer as well; if you've never seen it watch a replay of the 1989 worlds in Chambery...he single-handedly chases down Fignon with Konyshev and Kelly (!!!) in his wheel and still wins the sprint. All this growing up in California, nowhere near Europe, at a time when being an American rider was like being from the dark side of the moon.

The guy was arguably as talented a rider as nearly anyone who has ever thrown a leg over a bike; ridiculous to watch people try to rewrite history. Sorry, I realize this is off-topic, just couldn't help myself.
 
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