Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

[Salvarani]

Does this win count for Remco? Or race is too small?

Of course it counts!

Another race added to his 1.Pro collection.

 

[houtdffan]

Isn’t Pogacar riding at least one of them?

Pog is not unbeatable at Liege. Plus, Remco does have some wins against Pog in long races (and vice versa)

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Great start to the season for him. Let's hope he wins the Tour this year, so he can afford to buy a real phone.

 

[Extinction]

And they said he would be starting this season calculatedly undercooked, to reach maximum peak in July. Well, if that's the case, then his peak should be interesting.

 

[Froome]

And they said he would be starting this season calculatedly undercooked, to reach maximum peak in July. Well, if that's the case, then his peak should be interesting.

These top riders don't need to be in peak shape to win these races in the beginning of the season, because they're above the others.

 

[joseph89]

Remco with the Ben Shelton "Dialed in" Celebration says it all.

Looks like he has finally got his weight at the beginning of the season finally under control

 

[Extinction]

These top riders don't need to be in peak shape to win these races in the beginning of the season, because they're above the others.

Nobody is in peak shape, but compared to last year's start, he's in better form.

 

[jmdirt]

Nice TT win for RE!

 

[jmdirt]

Nobody is in peak shape, but compared to last year's start, he's in better form.

Well, the racers from the underside of the Earth are probably pretty close, but I didn't check to see if there were any of them in these early Euro races.

 

[Jumbo Visma Fan :)]

Remco with the Ben Shelton "Dialed in" Celebration says it all.

Looks like he has finally got his weight at the beginning of the season finally under control

Good start for the weight at the beginning, just need to maintain that for months which has always been the question with him.

 

[Extinction]

Well, the racers from the underside of the Earth are probably pretty close, but I didn't check to see if there were any of them in these early Euro races.

Well Ganna went better last year in Venezuela, so Remco is clearly in a different spot now by comparison.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

2020 remco is back

 

[DNP-Old]

Van der Poel, Van Aert, Pogacar, Vingegaard, Roglic, Pidcock, Philipsen, Ganna, A. Yates, De Lie, Hirschi, Skjelmose, Almeida, Kooij, Jakobsen, Ayuso, Rodriguez, Laporte, Kuss, Vlasov combined victories this season: 0.
Evenepoel victories this season: 1.

We are not the same.

 

[AmRacer]

Van der Poel, Van Aert, Pogacar, Vingegaard, Roglic, Pidcock, Philipsen, Ganna, A. Yates, De Lie, Hirschi, Skjelmose, Almeida, Kooij, Jakobsen, Ayuso, Rodriguez, Laporte, Kuss, Vlasov combined victories this season: 0.
Evenepoel victories this season: 1.

We are not the same.

Sam Welsford has a few wins.

 

[DNP-Old]

Sam Welsford has a few wins.

Well, he ain't in the list, is he now?

 

[Froome]

Van der Poel, Van Aert, Pogacar, Vingegaard, Roglic, Pidcock, Philipsen, Ganna, A. Yates, De Lie, Hirschi, Skjelmose, Almeida, Kooij, Jakobsen, Ayuso, Rodriguez, Laporte, Kuss, Vlasov combined victories this season: 0.
Evenepoel victories this season: 1.

We are not the same.

Van der Poel, Van Aert, Pogacar, Vingegaard, Roglic, Pidcock, Philipsen, Ganna, A. Yates, De Lie, Hirschi, Skjelmose, Almeida, Kooij, Jakobsen, Ayuso, Rodriguez, Laporte, Kuss, Vlasov, evenepoel.

combined victories this season: 1

Mads pedersen victories this season: 4

We are not the same.

 

[sam6]

Pog is not unbeatable at Liege. Plus, Remco does have some wins against Pog in long races (and vice versa)

What wins has Remco got against Pogi in long races? The world champs in Aus but Pogi wasn't really in form then and there were idiotic tactics (marking Remco with Tratnik and then not chasing down that group??) at fault too. Remco is not explosive enough to drop Pogi so when Pogi is on form then Remco is not beating him. I would say Pogi is pretty much unbeatable in Liege when he is on top form. I think he would have won in 2020 had Alaphillippe not swerved in front of him, and this was early Pogi not like he is now who was fatigued because of the Tour. He won in 2021. In 2022 he missed because family stuff and 2023 he broke his arm. Out of all the races you would say Liege suits him best so it's very hard to beat him there. Plus Pogi will be on good form as is last race before the Giro. Pogi will win LBL this year unless he breaks his arm again

Also, there is no non-time-trial course in which top-form Remco would beat top-form Pogi. Remco hasn't got the explosiveness to drop him without idiotic tactics allowing him up the road

 

[sam6]

Remco is overrated. He is a good time-trialler and good at smashing weaker opponents but he comes unstuck against top riders. He is less Eddy Merckx, and more Tom Dumoulin (just without the mental health problems as if there is one thing Remco doesn't lack it is confidence)

 

[scribers]

Van der Poel, Van Aert, Pogacar, Vingegaard, Roglic, Pidcock, Philipsen, Ganna, A. Yates, De Lie, Hirschi, Skjelmose, Almeida, Kooij, Jakobsen, Ayuso, Rodriguez, Laporte, Kuss, Vlasov combined victories this season: 0.
Evenepoel victories this season: 1.

We are not the same.

Damn. I’m in good company!

 

[Eddy Evenepoel]

more Tom Dumoulin

You are 100% correct and that is proven by Dumoulins long list of victories in one day races, which is very equal to Remcos palmares.

 

[Panda Claws]

You are 100% correct and that is proven by Dumoulins long list of victories in one day races, which is very equal to Remcos palmares.

Tom just wasn't confident enough to win those.

 

[Oldermanish]

You are 100% correct and that is proven by Dumoulins long list of victories in one day races, which is very equal to Remcos palmares.

Jeez; I guess MvP, Van Aert, Pidcock's cyclocross and championships don't count as wins? How about Mads Peterson, Carapaz....racing against aggressive fields? Oh....Remco didn't race those so they don't count? C'mon fans....

 

[seasidehiking]

What wins has Remco got against Pogi in long races? The world champs in Aus but Pogi wasn't really in form then and there were idiotic tactics (marking Remco with Tratnik and then not chasing down that group??) at fault too. Remco is not explosive enough to drop Pogi so when Pogi is on form then Remco is not beating him. I would say Pogi is pretty much unbeatable in Liege when he is on top form. I think he would have won in 2020 had Alaphillippe not swerved in front of him, and this was early Pogi not like he is now who was fatigued because of the Tour. He won in 2021. In 2022 he missed because family stuff and 2023 he broke his arm. Out of all the races you would say Liege suits him best so it's very hard to beat him there. Plus Pogi will be on good form as is last race before the Giro. Pogi will win LBL this year unless he breaks his arm again

Also, there is no non-time-trial course in which top-form Remco would beat top-form Pogi. Remco hasn't got the explosiveness to drop him without idiotic tactics allowing him up the road

Is 6 your age or the amount of ‘Pogi’ posters on your wall?

 

[houtdffan]

What wins has Remco got against Pogi in long races? The world champs in Aus but Pogi wasn't really in form then and there were idiotic tactics (marking Remco with Tratnik and then not chasing down that group??) at fault too. Remco is not explosive enough to drop Pogi so when Pogi is on form then Remco is not beating him. I would say Pogi is pretty much unbeatable in Liege when he is on top form. I think he would have won in 2020 had Alaphillippe not swerved in front of him, and this was early Pogi not like he is now who was fatigued because of the Tour. He won in 2021. In 2022 he missed because family stuff and 2023 he broke his arm. Out of all the races you would say Liege suits him best so it's very hard to beat him there. Plus Pogi will be on good form as is last race before the Giro. Pogi will win LBL this year unless he breaks his arm again

Also, there is no non-time-trial course in which top-form Remco would beat top-form Pogi. Remco hasn't got the explosiveness to drop him without idiotic tactics allowing him up the road

Remco has a LBL, CSS, and a WRR vs Pog. Pog has 2 Lombardias vs Evenepoel

They both crashed in a race they lost (Pog in LBL, Remco in Lombardia)

 

[shadowrider]

Gravity. Some can roll fast on flat to undulating terrain, but on the big climbs suffer the effects of gravity. What he needs to do is become the lightest he can be without losing power/watts. Then he has a chance.

That's just theory. Maybe as a preparation for a difficult one-day (climbing)race. But in a GT, there are so many (possible) variables. Vingegaard is a master of GT. Build as a climber, but, when in topshape, able to perform at the highest level in a (hilly) TT during the second and third week of a GT. I'm sure Vingegaard couldn't beat Ganna, Evenepoel and the new kid in a worlds TT. But he could and probably would in the second half of a GT. And important, untill today, Vingegaard didn't have a really bad day in a GT. Roglic, Pogacar and Evenepoel all had (several) bad days in the past.