Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

[Andre]

If Remco isn't at his best, then Jonas couldn't possibly be it either.

Jonas had a more complicated hospital stay, so he's actually behind Remco

 

[Berniece]

If Remco isn't at his best, then Jonas couldn't possibly be it either.

Vingegaard only just started with altitude training, he probably will just stay at altitude until a couple of days before the start of the TDF, and hope for the best.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

I can see it already, Landa and Evenepoel working for Van Wilder. As it should be.

 

[Red Rick]

Vingegaard only just started with altitude training, he probably will just stay at altitude until a couple of days before the start of the TDF, and hope for the best.

It's not even about altitude. It's about what training you do at altitude. Final altitude camp is all about fine tuning and doing race specific training prep normally.

Vingegaard meanwhile still has to start doing serious intensity training.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Evenepoel himself says he is still "far from his best form".

Remco Evenepoel laat algemeen klassement links liggen in Dauphiné: "Wil vooral zien waar ik sta" | sporza

Komend weekend mag Remco Evenepoel zichzelf weer renner noemen. Na zijn zware crash in de Ronde van het Baskenland wil hij ontdekken hoe goed zijn conditie is in de Dauphiné. Meteen meedingen voor het algemene klassement, ziet Evenepoel zelf als een utopie. "Het wordt een erg zware race", zegt...

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[Nick2413]

The differences in communication between the Remco and Vingegaard camps are extreme.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

The differences in communication between the Remco and Vingegaard camps are extreme.

Not really though? It's not like Visma is tooting Vingegaard is in top shape and ready to win another TDF. They are currently hoping he will make the TDF squad. SQS on the other hand is saying Evenepoel isn't ready to compete at the highest level, but are sure he will be in top shape for the TDF.

 

[Nick2413]

Not really though? It's not like Visma is tooting Vingegaard is in top shape and ready to win another TDF. They are currently hoping he will make the TDF squad. SQS on the other hand is saying Evenepoel isn't ready to compete at the highest level, but are sure he will be in top shape for the TDF.

What is your anticipation of how he will do in Dauphine?

 

[Berniece]

Not really though? It's not like Visma is tooting Vingegaard is in top shape and ready to win another TDF. They are currently hoping he will make the TDF squad. SQS on the other hand is saying Evenepoel isn't ready to compete at the highest level, but are sure he will be in top shape for the TDF.

1 week Dauphine, then 2 weeks in the Alps, NC, and 1 week in Belgium probably.

If he isn’t close to the best riders there, I can’t see him closing that gap. Maybe he starts riding properly in week 3 of the TDF, when it’s too late.

 

[Salvarani]

Remcos big goal is Olympics at this point, which it might have been anyway.

 

[Salvarani]

It's not even about altitude. It's about what training you do at altitude. Final altitude camp is all about fine tuning and doing race specific training prep normally.

Vingegaard meanwhile still has to start doing serious intensity training.

It is all good.

 

[peterfin]

So we may see TDS 2023 Remco dieseling up the mountains to get in shape? The next two months he won the NC RR, the Classica San Sebastian and the WC TT so I am still confident that he can be ready for his important summer races.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

What is your anticipation of how he will do in Dauphine?

No idea. I don't know whether they are lowballing or bluffing, or whether he really is not close enough to top form to actually compete.

 

[houtdffan]

No idea. I don't know whether they are lowballing or bluffing, or whether he really is not close enough to top form to actually compete.

last time he talked like this, he ended up taking Red at La Vuelta on stage 6 and not losing the jersey until he put on the rainbow jersey

 

[houtdffan]

So we may see TDS 2023 Remco dieseling up the mountains to get in shape? The next two months he won the NC RR, the Classica San Sebastian and the WC TT so I am still confident that he can be ready for his important summer races.

he's probably in better shape than he was at Suisse last year.

I think had the medium mountain stages not have been cancelled, he wins that race

 

[Nick2413]

No idea. I don't know whether they are lowballing or bluffing, or whether he really is not close enough to top form to actually compete.

I actually take them at their word. No way he’s in the shape he’d be in without the crash, but should still be able to get near 100% for the Tour.

 

[Andre]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5jeWZlfgvY

 

[Oldermanish]

Vingegaard only just started with altitude training, he probably will just stay at altitude until a couple of days before the start of the TDF, and hope for the best.

The press release said he's "acclimating to altitude" before he starts training at altitude. Acclimation is active sunbathing by comparison so, no. He might be at the Grand Depart hotel but someone else on JV will start.

 

[Sciatic]

It's not even about altitude. It's about what training you do at altitude. Final altitude camp is all about fine tuning and doing race specific training prep normally.

Vingegaard meanwhile still has to start doing serious intensity training.

Well, that’s not exactly true is it? The effect of hypoxia to increase HCT happens even resting so it would make sense to go even if not training hard. Not to mention the altitude thing we can’t mention here:

 

[Sciatic]

It's ok to eat cake. It's not like these riders only eat vegetables with rice and a piece of fish...

Didn’t some rider recently say “calories are calories” when it comes to fueling during training and racing?

 

[Berniece]

Didn’t some rider recently say “calories are calories” when it comes to fueling during training and racing?

Could be, not sure. It's just that sugar isn't the issue, fats are. A cake even though there is probably some butter in it, is mostly made with sugar, flour and eggs. So there's no issue with it. They eat a lot of pastries anyway.

At the moment I'm not sure who is joking, and who really thinks eating cake is an issue.

 

[Red Rick]

Not like they never burn fat during their rides

 

[peterfin]

For a healthy person including an athlete, balancing caloric intake with effort is the only thing that really matters except of course the usual proteins, fast sugars and fluids to perform optimally during the day of a sports event. All those "JV diets" are either marketing stuff or give the resemblance of control while in practice there is no real science behind it. It may have a "feel good" placebo effect for those that want control but those that enjoy the idea of eating cake after a hard training effort may perform worse if they are confronted with a harsh diet.

 

[red_flanders]

For a healthy person including an athlete, balancing caloric intake with effort is the only thing that really matters except of course the usual proteins, fast sugars and fluids to perform optimally during the day of a sports event. All those "JV diets" are either marketing stuff or give the resemblance of control while in practice there is no real science behind it. It may have a "feel good" placebo effect for those that want control but those that enjoy the idea of eating cake after a hard training effort may perform worse if they are confronted with a harsh diet.

What's a JV diet?

 

[AmRacer]

What's a JV diet?

It's a discussion for the clinic, I presume.