Could Remco be doing a giro/tour double?
That is the only thing that makes sense when he says he will have a very light start to the season, with heavier racing afterward
That is the only thing that makes sense when he says he will have a very light start to the season, with heavier racing afterward
I mean, he could do something like 2008 Contador with Pais Vasco, Giro, Worlds, Vuelta. However, he has already ruled out the Vuelta, so that idea doesn't make any sense. Neither would a very light spring just for the Italian classics
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I think that could make sense in several different ways. Light pre-Giro race schedule with ample training camp time just as before the 22 Vuelta is the first one that comes to my mind.
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It is an interesting proposition, although he can't show up at the Giro much undercooked thinking about the Tour, if he doesn't want to risk falling short at the Corsa Rosa. I have provocatively suggested he should do the Giro and the Tour next year, never thinking he actually would. But in all honestly I too was struck by his comment regarding a slow season start to ramping up the intensity. And since he already declared he would not be defending his Vuelta title, one is left wondering what exactly does he mean by "heavier racing afterward?" We and he saw that he was able to hold top form from San Sebastian to Worlds, passing through the Vuelta; although the more likely scenario is he meant a period from the Ardennes classics through the Giro. Still, you never know. Perhaps he is chomping at the bit to be at the Tour, but knows he's got unfinished business to attend to at the Giro. Could it be that he wants the maglia rosa and if his form is right afterwards to debute at the Tour without pressure for results?
Agreed. It is 1 year early for giro-tour.
However, Giro/Worlds/Vuelta would just be Contador's Giro/Olympics/Vuelta. Maybe only target the TT like Contador did? Hopefully, he reconsidered the no Vuelta.
Hope the sponsors are not the ones forcing a giro/tour double (if that is what he meant)
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Interesting take from retired Dan Martin about the state of pro bike racing. He was never one to mince words and he practiced aggressive racing tactics that bought him success. And some notable blow ups. I couldn't read the entire interview but he praised the adventurous Tadej and would think he'd lump Remco in the younger guys that have skill and confidence.
His general take seemed to provide, IMO some additional insight on how the last WCRR went down and how that many riders didn't know what was going on in the race.
Another reason to appreciate a few of the really good young riders and question the longevity of many of them. He has observations that could blend into discussion about race schedules and team choices for rising stars.
His general take seemed to provide, IMO some additional insight on how the last WCRR went down and how that many riders didn't know what was going on in the race.
Another reason to appreciate a few of the really good young riders and question the longevity of many of them. He has observations that could blend into discussion about race schedules and team choices for rising stars.
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The double is a task one should commit to in his prime. Its demands can't be met in a hurry of any sort. There's time for it and it should be patiently awaited. Luckily, modern technology can tell when it is.
The same technology makes programming highly efficient, and I suppose it's consulted before the definite schedule.
We can compare the riders' approaches and notice differences between the generations.
Maybe the progress in training causes them, or the riders' profiles differ, or a multitude of factors unknown to us is considered, anyway it must be more advanced than it was and carefully personalized.
An adequate workload at any point is vital.
The changed calendar makes me unsure which is the best way to skin the cat.
Would be easier had he already put the Giro away and concentrated on the Tour.
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He's definitely going to do the Giro. Remco wants to win all 3 GT's, the Giro is perfect for him next year, and fits well with his growth trajectory and plan they set beforehand. Why deviate from it? Just because it's the Tour? He'll be 24 when riding the Tour for the first time, he still has at least 6 attempts to try and win it once.
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I think that from a techical point of view and also because of his personal growth Giro is the best with no discussion.
The problem are what the sponsors want. But if Sporza would broadcast Giro and because he's from a belgian team with belgian sponsor maybe also this problem can be reduced
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Remco will have 10+ minutes advantage halway through the Giro. Then Hindley will enter his Fedaia mode vs ailing Remco and... reduce the gap to 9 minutes.
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I don't think this contracts are sold on a yearly basis but I could be wrong. In most sports, you buy the rights for a couple of years
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I think you are onto something here. If Remco can win the Giro he has nothing lose by trying for the double. The Giro parcours looks much, much harder than the Vuelta though. Will be good to see him try.
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Would be funny if Hindley sucks remcos wheel for 3 weeks and then drops him on Tre Cime di Lavaredo to win the Giro
will be hard after he ships minutes in the TTs
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i am actually now more convinced than ever that remco should do giro (and only the giro) next year.
there are several incredible mountain stages that are comparable to the hardest in the TDF (but much harder than he had in the Vuelta). perfect to go there first without the pressure of fighting Pog and Vingo as well.
and IF he manages to win, think of the confidence and knowledge he would then have entering the TDF in 2024.
and he would have 2 GTs at age 23...
maybe once he can try a double in a season, but i really don't want him to try it soon or often. there are way too many races that he should race and win...
there are several incredible mountain stages that are comparable to the hardest in the TDF (but much harder than he had in the Vuelta). perfect to go there first without the pressure of fighting Pog and Vingo as well.
and IF he manages to win, think of the confidence and knowledge he would then have entering the TDF in 2024.
and he would have 2 GTs at age 23...
maybe once he can try a double in a season, but i really don't want him to try it soon or often. there are way too many races that he should race and win...
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Look I'd be thrilled to have Remco at the Giro next year.
But we don't know whether he'll have many chances to win the Tour in the future. He could crash again / get an illness and stop being competitive. Other young riders coud emerge and prove to be much stronger than him. Clinic issues. You name it.
In my opinion athletes should pursue their biggest goals whenever they feel they have a chance to achieve them. So if the Giro is the biggest goal for him, fine, he should ride the Giro. But if he really dreams of winning the Tour, I see no reason why he should skip it.
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Maybe with this situation, remco has more chances of winning going to the tour, than going to the giro.
Maybe with this situation, remco has more chances of winning going to the tour, than going to the giro.
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Yeah, I have a hard time believing that this is gonna happen. Unless they know something that we don't knw he's trying to defend his Tour win.
From the rumours and talks I can see either Roglic or Wout going to the Giro (and getting a nice payday from RCS), but I doubt this is gonna happen.
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This could actually make sense given that Vingegård seemed to struggle a bit with the crazy atmosphere around the Tour this year, at least in the post-Tour period when he return to Denmark. Maybe he wants a new challenge with a bit less pressure and the Giro's route suits him pretty well I'd say and that would give Roglič full Tour leadership and van Aert a bit more freedom to chase another green jersey.
Nonetheless I don't give it more than 25% of chance him going to the Giro
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Just because it's his dream, doesn't mean he needs to do it now, or thinks he is already capable of doing it now, or thinks he has the team to do it now... So he should do what he feels is best and gives him piece of mind.
Or maybe not. Or is Pogacar going to skip the Tour as well?
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- Jan 8, 2020
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Very interesting. It seems that winning the Tour kind of crushed him mentally. If he is considering it, likely this means he wants a break from the oppressive hugeness of the Tour. If he indeed decides to do the Giro it would be a great show if Remco is there as well and perfect for Evenepoel's GT development.
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