Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

[Didinho]

Is there a video of this interview? On every other cycling site I read the same, but nothing about this.
Just about his own health.

He didn't want to give an interview at first but then he did for Sporza.

 

[red_flanders]

Remco is so funny , he's great for the sport

Is he wrong? Just sounds to me like some very common Belgian matter-of-fact talk.

 

[Venge 82]

The fact that he was already joking this morning (limping in the riders' village) makes me think that his injuries may not be too bad in the end.
We will know more tomorrow.

Glad he apologized at the Trek bus. He surely has good intentions, but is often misunderstood (sometimes justified).
Oh yeah, when I was his age...

 

[Didinho]

The fact that he was already joking this morning (limping in the riders' village) makes me think that his injuries may not be too bad in the end.
We will know more tomorrow.

Glad he apologized at the Trek bus. He surely has good intentions, but is often misunderstood (sometimes justified).
Oh yeah, when I was his age...

Was also talking with Pedersen at the back of the peloton. And the short interview after the stage he was also smiling, so I think he's okay. Less pain than in the Vuelta he said.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

I'd like to see the source of that as well. Seems like something pulled out of context.

Watching it now... great plan to have an interview over skype riding through a tunnel.

EDIT: yeah, as i thought, pulled out of context and poorly transcribed/translated. He is asked directly (by Phil Gil) which impression Roglic gives him. He then says "he gives me the impression of being a bit nervous" based on how Roglic moves through the peloton etc. Which is something different to stating "Roglic is nervous" (which could be interpreted as him being scared/insecure). Half of the interview is cut off by lousy transmission/connection.

Giro 2023 | Remco Evenepoel : "Primoz Roglic est nerveux" - Eurosport

Invité des Rois de la Pédale après la 6e étape du Tour d'Italie ce jeudi autour de Naples, Remco Evenepoel a dit ce qu'il pensait de Primoz Roglic.

www.eurosport.fr

 

[DNP-Old]

There's a video up on EuroSport now, and he does say it re. Jumbo, starting at 2.05.

 

[Didinho]

Jumbo always rides nervous through the peloton, as others stated often the previous years. A little bit out of context indeed, as i expected.

 

[Riek s]

Nobody asked Roglic to go for an intermediate time bonus, or try sprinting in a stage. I can imagine it feels like Roglic is nervous about his timeloss.

 

[Mayomaniac]

I'd like to see the source of that as well. Seems like something pulled out of context.

Watching it now... great plan to have an interview over skype riding through a tunnel.

EDIT: yeah, as i thought, pulled out of context and poorly transcribed/translated. He is asked directly (by Phil Gil) which impression Roglic gives him. He then says "he gives me the impression of being a bit nervous" based on how Roglic moves through the peloton etc. Which is something different to stating "Roglic is nervous" (which could be interpreted as him being scared/insecure). Half of the interview is cut off by lousy transmission/connection.

Giro 2023 | Remco Evenepoel : "Primoz Roglic est nerveux" - Eurosport

Invité des Rois de la Pédale après la 6e étape du Tour d'Italie ce jeudi autour de Naples, Remco Evenepoel a dit ce qu'il pensait de Primoz Roglic.

www.eurosport.fr

Why am I not surprised? That's cycling media for you. Directly asking him about something and then it's pulled out of context a big clickbait headline about the rider making a certain statement about another rider.

 

[ALC]

This, things just happen in the heat of the moment. As long as you solve things afterwards and don't keep your initial stance after seeing that you also made a mistake it's really not a big deal.

Wouldn’t it be great if people at forums behave like that? 😂

 

[Bonimenier]

Wouldn’t it be great if people at forums behave like that? 😂

If we make mistakes in the heat of the moment we get banned. That's why we behave like adults at all time.

 

[Sciatic]

Why am I not surprised? That's cycling media for you. Directly asking him about something and then it's pulled out of context a big clickbait headline about the rider making a certain statement about another rider.

Yeah, and even with it being spotlighted and magnified, it’s nothing outrageous. It’s not like he said of his opponents: “If I were them I’d be sh*ting their pants” like someone else we know.

 

[groogster]

Evenepoel surely has a better insight than any of us about what Roglig may be showing in the peloton but from the outside and only as a fan and a viewer my perception tells me that Roglig appears to be more relaxed than Evenepoel. Evenepoel imo appears to be a little bit edgy and Roglic appears to be as always, calm!

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Evenepoel surely has a better insight than any of us about what Roglig may be showing in the peloton but from the outside and only as a fan and a viewer my perception tells me that Roglig appears to be more relaxed than Evenepoel. Evenepoel imo appears to be a little bit edgy and Roglic appears to be as always, calm!

That's difficult to say as a spectator. Evenepoel has always been quite "alpha" or "football" in his reactions, i don't think it has to mean he is nervous, it's just the way he is. After calming down he usually realises if he is wrong and isn't too ashamed/petty to admit it if he is. On the other hand, same could be said of Roglic, who always seems calm but on the other hand has been said by multiple riders to behave erratically in the peloton. So does it tell us anything? I don't know. Evenepoel looks confident, but that doesn't mean Roglic isn't.

 

[groogster]

That's difficult to say as a spectator. Evenepoel has always been quite "alpha" or "football" in his reactions, i don't think it has to mean he is nervous, it's just the way he is. After calming down he usually realises if he is wrong and isn't too ashamed/petty to admit it if he is. On the other hand, same could be said of Roglic, who always seems calm but on the other hand has been said by multiple riders to behave erratically in the peloton. So does it tell us anything? I don't know. Evenepoel looks confident, but that doesn't mean Roglic isn't.

As i said, without any knowledge whatever to show that this is in fact the case, just my percepetion from their behaviour since stage 1!

There's no question in my mind that atm Evenepoel is the 2nd best rider in the world, Pogacar being the 1st IMO, and I like to see him riding, very offensive and gutsy but I´m not very keen on his behaviour, in fact I find him kind of rude more often than not in his relation with the peloton!
It could come from his personality being built within football when a teenager sure but even so, not the biggest fan of this type of behaviour!

As for his eventual "alpha personality" I agree that he seems to have some of the attributes of an "alpha" but IMO he clearly lacks one of the most important ones which is the element of managing properly his emotions in tension situations.

 

[Rackham]

Evenepoel surely has a better insight than any of us about what Roglig may be showing in the peloton but from the outside and only as a fan and a viewer my perception tells me that Roglig appears to be more relaxed than Evenepoel. Evenepoel imo appears to be a little bit edgy and Roglic appears to be as always, calm!

No he doesn't.

It's mind games. If someone had asked Evenepoel what he thought of Hugh Carthy, he probably would have answered... "he's tall".

And there's a good reason why riders don't usually come out with stuff like "my rival is nervous etc." i.e. because there's a huge element of lady luck in pro cycling whereby anyone in the peloton can go down at any moment in any stage.

So if Rog hits the deck, the ensuing discourse will get nasty real fast with comments like "haha Remco was right!" whilst if Evenepoel hits the deck you'll get comments like "speak for yourself, Remco!" & he'll look like a bit of a d*ck.

It's a lose-lose proposition to say your rival is 'nervous'.

 

[Skijumper Roglic fan]

I'd like to see the source of that as well. Seems like something pulled out of context.

Watching it now... great plan to have an interview over skype riding through a tunnel.

EDIT: yeah, as i thought, pulled out of context and poorly transcribed/translated. He is asked directly (by Phil Gil) which impression Roglic gives him. He then says "he gives me the impression of being a bit nervous" based on how Roglic moves through the peloton etc. Which is something different to stating "Roglic is nervous" (which could be interpreted as him being scared/insecure). Half of the interview is cut off by lousy transmission/connection.

Giro 2023 | Remco Evenepoel : "Primoz Roglic est nerveux" - Eurosport

Invité des Rois de la Pédale après la 6e étape du Tour d'Italie ce jeudi autour de Naples, Remco Evenepoel a dit ce qu'il pensait de Primoz Roglic.

www.eurosport.fr

Time for Primoz to invite Remco to going ski flying in Planica. Sitting up there, Primoz suddenly calmly asks Remco, „You look a little bit nervous, don‘t you?“…

Should Primoz really appear to be nervous, it‘s probably not about the 44 seconds he lacks on Remco. It‘s certainly rather about staying safely on his bike, being a mediocre bike handler, riding in a nervous bunch of nearly 200 cyclists, first week of the Giro, on slippery and wet Italian roads…

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Time for Primoz to invite Remco to going ski flying in Planica. Sitting up there, Primoz suddenly calmly asks Remco, „You look a little bit nervous, don‘t you?“…

 

[LookProGoSlow]

No he doesn't.

It's mind games. If someone had asked Evenepoel what he thought of Hugh Carthy, he probably would have answered... "he's tall".

And there's a good reason why riders don't usually come out with stuff like "my rival is nervous etc." i.e. because there's a huge element of lady luck in pro cycling whereby anyone in the peloton can go down at any moment in any stage.

So if Rog hits the deck, the ensuing discourse will get nasty real fast with comments like "haha Remco was right!" whilst if Evenepoel hits the deck you'll get comments like "speak for yourself, Remco!" & he'll look like a bit of a d*ck.

It's a lose-lose proposition to say your rival is 'nervous'.

Agree 100%.

I do think the comments in that 'article' were most likely taking out of context. The news machine 'spins yarn', as we say in Dutch, out of anything involving the top-top cyclists.

 

[IndurainsTdF1994]

It is good to have some color in life. And Remco is providing it. It would be great if there were two top dogs who would be sparing with comments. Having two Lances in the peloton.

Pog doesn't speak up often enough, but I bet he could burn people. And not just with his bread cigarette.

 

[Venge 82]

It's mind games, but nothing to do with falling or not falling.

What I mean is, Roglic might be nervous because he wants to stay safe on his bike (which is understandable in these weather conditions + peloton acting nervous in a first week of a GT, but I guess Remco wants to provoke Roglic.
I believe he feels confident that he's better at the moment and wants to hit the iron when it's hot. Maybe to maximize his time gap before the 3rd week.

It has nothing to do with a lose-lose proposition. Although, people may interpret it this way...

 

[gze]

Following the display of weakness by Remco's climbing domestics in stage 4, teams like INEOS and Jumbo may be motivated to ramp up the pace at the beginning of the climb to isolate him during today's uphill finish. However, if his domestics can handle the pace and take over, it would be a textbook scenario of "Jose de Cauwer's" strategy of emptying the competition's plate before starting on your own.

Weighing the potential risk of Remco being isolated for 10 minutes in stage four against the benefits of drafting the majority of the first uphill finish, it could be a viable strategy to fake poor form of the domestics (if they are actually in top shape) in stage four and deceive other teams into doing the heavy lifting in the first uphill finish.

While I don't believe I'm witnessing a Soudal Quick Step strategy masterclass, I do think that, with the right conditions in place, this approach could potentially serve as a clever form of reverse psychology.

 

[steffr222]

Interview before today’s start

 

[Venge 82]

Nice interview. Again very relaxed and spontaneous.

 

[Riek s]

No he doesn't.

It's mind games. If someone had asked Evenepoel what he thought of Hugh Carthy, he probably would have answered... "he's tall".

And there's a good reason why riders don't usually come out with stuff like "my rival is nervous etc." i.e. because there's a huge element of lady luck in pro cycling whereby anyone in the peloton can go down at any moment in any stage.

So if Rog hits the deck, the ensuing discourse will get nasty real fast with comments like "haha Remco was right!" whilst if Evenepoel hits the deck you'll get comments like "speak for yourself, Remco!" & he'll look like a bit of a d*ck.

It's a lose-lose proposition to say your rival is 'nervous'.

Problem is he doesn't say 'he IS nervous', he said 'he SEEMS nervous'. which by al intend and purposes has a completely different meaning. Roglic can appear nervous because the way he rides around in the peleton because he wants to avoid crashes or because he seems to go in the front at intermediates to see if he can get time of guarded, or or or it is just a wrong read that Remco has on Roglic's behaviour.

Its a perfectly valid response to a question: "what do you think of Roglic ". It isn't denegrating, it isn't laughing, it isn't minimizing, it doesn't lower the quality of that rider, ...

I don't know why people are blowing this up so hard as if he killed someones mother.