Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

[Ilmaestro99]

Well, if he imploded and lost 27 minutes, he simply isn't GT material. Come on.

Man who won a grand tour is apparently not grand tour material . OK man

 

[Elos Anjos]

I'm talking about being exciting during the Vuelta and that he brings a lot of value to a GT


I can only laugh at this. First of all, you have no clue what Remco was still capable of that day. If he was able to only lose 1-2min. Secondly, this notion that he suddenly isn't a GT rider anymore is laughable. He'll definitely win another GT in his career, and I expect him to ride podium in the next TDF if everything goes according to plan (no crashes, illness or ...)

Dude WTF
The writing is on the wall. Buy a dictionary if you don't understand the words.

 

[Eddy Evenepoel]

First of all it will be interesting to see which team Roglic is riding for next year and if he will even be at the Tour.

With the anonymous sources from within Jumbo team Hotel saying it’s issues between Vingegaard and Roglic I can definitively see a situation where Vingegaard doesn’t want Roglic with him in the Tour next year.

 

[Gargamel35]

Man who won a grand tour is apparently not grand tour material . OK man

Many won a GT and are NOT GT material. To be a constant GT racer for top spots, you need a lot more then Remco has right now. And they don't flop for half an hour in a stage.

 

[Gargamel35]

First of all it will be interesting to see which team Roglic is riding for next year and if he will even be at the Tour.

With the anonymous sources from within Jumbo team Hotel saying it’s issues between Vingegaard and Roglic I can definitively see a situation where Vingegaard doesn’t want Roglic with him in the Tour next year.

Roglič stays with JV (contract). JV will not let him ride TdF, they don't want the drama from Vuelta. When Roglič goes to another team, he'll be too old to compete for top spots anyway.

 

[Eddy Evenepoel]

. To be a constant GT racer for top spots

what does it take to be a constant GT races for top spots, as that’s obviously what you think is necessary for being GT material?

Do you have to be on the podium every time?
Do you have to win more than once?

 

[Salvarani]

Is that because of the media attention or because of his actual racing? How much did he really contribute to the racing in the Giro? He's done one great mountain raid in the Vuelta, and won a mountain sprint. But if you're talking about someone who's really involved in the front end of the race, I'd say for example Cian Uijtdebroeks has been the more relevant young rider. As has Juan Ayuso, of course.

He is El Patron after all. Yelling orders to other riders from other teams. Crashing into innocent bystanders. Fading spectacurarly. Giving his opinion in the media every day.

He knows how to be in the spotlight at all times. It is probably a big part of his brand, that they have built. I think it is very much by design and strategic. Of course, placing himself as a main contender is part of that. Because even if he dont succeed, it sets up the spectacle of him going for stages and now the KOM. From a commercial stand-point... it is always gonna be a "win" no matter what.

 

[SHAD0W93]

And which of the two GTs do you think best predicts how strong Rogla will be in the Tour next year?

Roglic would unfortunately have to be at the Tour next year and if he’s still with Jumbo, the odds aren’t in his favor unless something happens to Vinge.

 

[Netserk]

Roglic would unfortunately have to be at the Tour next year and if he’s still with Jumbo, the odds aren’t in his favor unless something happens to Vinge.

In his favour for what? To go well in GC? To beat Evenepoel there?

 

[peterfin]

We are recycling the same discussions and there is no hope for an agreement. For some he will never be 'GT material' because any GT he wins will be a Mickey Mouse tour. In the mean time these discussions are making this thread so long that I can't read it in my lunch break!

 

[theyoungest]

First of all it will be interesting to see which team Roglic is riding for next year and if he will even be at the Tour.

With the anonymous sources from within Jumbo team Hotel saying it’s issues between Vingegaard and Roglic I can definitively see a situation where Vingegaard doesn’t want Roglic with him in the Tour next year.

The cleaning lady?

 

[Eddy Evenepoel]

In his favour for what? To go well in GC? To beat Evenepoel there?

I think he means the odds in favour for being selected for the Tour team.

 

[Gargamel35]

The cleaning leady?

A lot of talk and NO information. Journalism at it's best.

 

[AmRacer]

In his favour for what? To go well in GC? To beat Evenepoel there?

Rogla has Vuelta and Giro. Tour is missing in his palmares

 

[Eddy Evenepoel]

The cleaning lady?

Maybe she was one of the two:
https://escapecollective.com/behind-the-facade-fissures-form-at-jumbo/

 

[SHAD0W93]

In his favour for what? To go well in GC? To beat Evenepoel there?

Roglic can’t podium a race that he doesn’t take part in. Which like I said if he stays on Jumbo and something doesn’t happen to Vinge, isn’t likely.

 

[theyoungest]

Maybe she was one of the two:
https://escapecollective.com/behind-the-facade-fissures-form-at-jumbo/

"A public relations nightmare". Yeah, if your team is the only team that matters in the race, of course the negative gets magnified as well. I wouldn't call that a PR nightmare, but rather a result of how the media function these days.

 

[IndianCyclist]

He is the third world of cycling, the only alternative to Jumbo Jonas and Pog, the superpowers. Ok so maybe he is not perfect but he can match them on his day.

 

[Wvv]

Only a finish in Madrid away from being the KOM of this Vuelta. It's not what he came for or what we desire from him, but after the stage 13 implosion it's testimony to his mental strenght and hunger to set new goals. Kudos. Let's see if he can add a third stage victory, which would make this specific GT all in all a success.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

He is the third world of cycling

He looks like the least affected by famine, though

 

[Berniece]

Only a finish in Madrid away from being the KOM of this Vuelta. It's not what he came for or what we desire from him, but after the stage 13 implosion it's testimony to his mental strenght and hunger to set new goals. Kudos. Let's see if he can add a third stage victory, which would make this specific GT all in all a success.

And who knows, maybe he's also able to go for it on Saturday

 

[meat puppet]

Maybe she was one of the two:
https://escapecollective.com/behind-the-facade-fissures-form-at-jumbo/

Didn't know Roglic had publicly demanded leadership in the 24 TDF.

 

[theyoungest]

Only a finish in Madrid away from being the KOM of this Vuelta. It's not what he came for or what we desire from him, but after the stage 13 implosion it's testimony to his mental strenght and hunger to set new goals. Kudos. Let's see if he can add a third stage victory, which would make this specific GT all in all a success.

It is, but on the other hand: on that very same Tourmalet stage Almeida had an implosion of sorts as well, but he rode through it for 100 kms on his own and saved his GC. That could maybe have been more interesting for Evenepoel fans, to see what he's really capable of against the best guys on Angliru, for instance. Rather than being part of breakaways where, on paper, he's by far the best climber.

 

[wickedw]

It's nice to win the KOM jersey I guess, but, unless you win it as a GC contestant, it means very little. It wasn't really contested and it's not surprising that Remco could win it once he's allowed to go into breaks... It's a consolation prize, at best. I would quietly collect it and move on.

 

[Berniece]

It's nice to win the KOM jersey I guess, but, unless you win it as a GC contestant, it means very little. It wasn't really contested and it's not surprising that Remco could win it once he's allowed to go into breaks... It's a consolation prize, at best. I would quietly collect it and move on.

I think he cares more about his stage wins. 2 at the moment, but maybe after Sunday he's at 4.