Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

[jmdirt]

the race was determined by Philipsen decision to completely shadow Remco.

What?

 

[Andre]

to me it seemed that when Jasper finally started taking some pulls, they were pretty weak, it took him some real effort just to get in front of Remco, and then it only lasted less than 10 seconds

 

[Extinction]

I can’t fathom why you’re trying to make so much of this? He didn’t try to follow Wellens when he went; he wasn’t going to chase every attacker. You want to proclaim Remco isn’t very strong/psychologically capable, etc—just wait a couple of weeks.

He, himself said when Wellens attacked he couldn't follow. Now it's understood why, but being an UAE rider must have added salt to the wound.

 

[Extinction]

Yes and no.

The first gap Wellens got (on Remco) was because of tactical reasons when Remco chose (wrongly in hindsight) to not react immediately. But afterwards Wellens did prove to be very strong by only gaining time on the chasers.

I don't think Remco has any illusions about the strength of Pogacar and his UAE team. Wellens already showed a very high level in the Dauphiné.

But Remco said he couldn't react immediately.

 

[KoopaCycling]

But Remco said he couldn't react immediately.

Remco had just attacked, got shadowed by Phillipsen. Allowed himself and Phillipsen to get held back in 2nd part of split front group. Hence why he could not respond immediately. Needed a minute to recuperate from his own attack, then get back to first part of the split group. When Remco started chasing after Wellens, Wellens had already been allowed 30+ seconds. In part cause of Wellens strenght, in part cause of timing of the attack, in part cause of people being focused on Remco and trying to eat his plate.

 

[Berniece]

He, himself said when Wellens attacked he couldn't follow. Now it's understood why, but being an UAE rider must have added salt to the wound.

I don't think he cares it's a UAE rider. That's something some fans care about but not the riders themselves.

 

[Berniece]

SOQ announced their team.

• Remco Evenepoel
• Tim Merlier
• Mattia Cattaneo (Ita)
• Pascal Eenkhoorn (Ned)
• Maximilian Schachmann (Dui)
• Valentin Paret-Peintre (Fra)
• Bert Van Lerberghe
• Ilan Van Wilder

https://twitter.com/x/status/1939958858903867618

 

[Berflamand]

It should be a good team for the first ten days.

Eenkhoorn as bodyguard. Merlier and Van Lerberghe to help in the stages that don't end in a flat sprint. Cattaneo and Schachmann for the hilly stages.

In the mountains a lot will depend on the level of Van Wilder and Paret-Peintre not to get isolated too quickly.

 

[houtdffan]

It should be a good team for the first ten days.

Eenkhoorn as bodyguard. Merlier and Van Lerberghe to help in the stages that don't end in a flat sprint. Cattaneo and Schachmann for the hilly stages.

In the mountains a lot will depend on the level of Van Wilder and Paret-Peintre not to get isolated too quickly.

I trust Cattaneo in the mountains more than I do the other two

 

[Berniece]

I trust Cattaneo in the mountains more than I do the other two

I don't know. Van Wilder has always shown that when he needs to be ready to support Evenepoel in a GT, he is ready. VPP we don't really know.

 

[Sciatic]

He, himself said when Wellens attacked he couldn't follow. Now it's understood why, but being an UAE rider must have added salt to the wound.

Okay, good to know.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Hopefully the steppers will throw caution to the wind in the first part of the race. Don't think the alternative is worth thinking about.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Wiggins thinks Evenepoel has the potential to win the TDF but he will need to change teams.

"Laatste Belgische Tourwinnaar" Wiggins raadt Remco Evenepoel aan van team te veranderen: "Om hoger niveau te halen" | sporza

Het BK wielrennen was een goeie laatste test voor Remco Evenepoel met het oog op de Tour de France. Bradley Wiggins is onder de indruk van het wapenarsenaal van de olympische kampioen, maar hij vreest dat zijn team niet sterk genoeg is om hem ooit naar Tourwinst te leiden. "Hij zou beter andere...

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[Berniece]

Wiggins thinks Evenepoel has the potential to win the TDF but he will need to change teams.

"Laatste Belgische Tourwinnaar" Wiggins raadt Remco Evenepoel aan van team te veranderen: "Om hoger niveau te halen" | sporza

Het BK wielrennen was een goeie laatste test voor Remco Evenepoel met het oog op de Tour de France. Bradley Wiggins is onder de indruk van het wapenarsenaal van de olympische kampioen, maar hij vreest dat zijn team niet sterk genoeg is om hem ooit naar Tourwinst te leiden. "Hij zou beter andere...

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I was thinking that if Pogacar beats Vingegaard by more than 2-3min this TDF, Visma should try to get Evenepoel so they have 2 leaders and could use a different approach

 

[Unchained]

I couldn't watch the race. Was Jasper's attitude that nasty towards Remco?

Not at all the race was very very positive with many people attacking, including the favorites.
There were some really crazy crashes including crashing were a rider just spaced out and crashed alone. Crashing in the middle of the street because the action was so chaotic that riders were all overlapping wheels and riding half into each other with handlebars touching buttocks of rider to the right and left.
It looks like many smaller teams had do or die, literally importance on the race.
When Wellens attacked first few times, Remco also... just really really hurt the field. It was excellent, Remco likely thought that Wellens going alone and early, wouldn't work, Remco guessed incorrectly that it would come back together.. Wellens rode really solid, carrying excellent speed. That said once Remco recognized his mistake, he chased like a madman and looked absolutely great on the bike , his cadence was @5+% ( noticeable) faster and smoother than others. Despite the loss he looked very very solid and strong. As always Remco's climbing is in question.. But anything flat..the guy can fly.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

I was thinking that if Pogacar beats Vingegaard by more than 2-3min this TDF, Visma should try to get Evenepoel so they have 2 leaders and could use a different approach

Visma will offer Remco a fortune but he will say "no". Reason? Starvation camps with Vingegaard on Teide.

 

[wheresmybrakes]

Visma will offer Remco a fortune but he will say "no". Reason? Starvation camps with Vingegaard on Teide.

Maybe he could eventually lose that elusive 2kg, and become a climber.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Maybe he could eventually lose that elusive 2kg, and become a climber.

He would lose much more and even his beloved grandpa Lefevere wouldn't recognise him.

 

[Oldman]

Agree, we don't have to debate this. But how many times has Jasper's won sitting on others wheels? That's what he does.

Like most successful sprinters.

 

[Oldman]

Visma will offer Remco a fortune but he will say "no". Reason? Starvation camps with Vingegaard on Teide.

Jorgenson has much more upside and that's why he got the 3 year contract. Still think he'd be better on Bora and get Primoz to lead him out....gradually. Although that new Tour kit would be the deal breaker, for sure.

 

[Andre]

we don't really know what he will do; stay...Ineos...Visma...or Bora

 

[CyclistAbi]

Extremely slim, lets see on how that goes.

 

[red_flanders]

Jorgenson has much more upside and that's why he got the 3 year contract. Still think he'd be better on Bora and get Primoz to lead him out....gradually. Although that new Tour kit would be the deal breaker, for sure.

Wow. Surprised to read that opinion. I can't see any world where Jorgenson has more upside now or later than Remco. Doesn't seem close to me.

 

[VayaVayaVaya]

Wow. Surprised to read that opinion. I can't see any world where Jorgenson has more upside now or later than Remco. Doesn't seem close to me.

Yeah I’m a big Jorgensen fan, but I would expect that Remco’s palmares today already outstrip what Jorgensen will do in his career, and I would expect the same to be true for what Remco does from now until he retires compared to Johnson’s entire career.

 

[KoopaCycling]

Yeah I’m a big Jorgensen fan, but I would expect that Remco’s palmares today already outstrip what Jorgensen will do in his career, and I would expect the same to be true for what Remco does from now until he retires compared to Johnson’s entire career.

Quite often timing is everything. I would never have expected Kuss to be a GT winner. But his timing was perfect.
Being on his very best whilst being in a situation where he could benefit from team tactics.

Now Jorgenson is around the same age as Evenepoel. So like Evenepoel he'll probably have to battle Pogacar, Vingegaard for a TdF win. So at first glance his timing don't look perfect. Every now and then the level drops creating an even playing for the level right below. I'm thinking Zoetemelk, Stephen Roche, Oscar Pereiro, Wiggins, Bernal. And given his age that's unlikely to happen for him. However not all is lost. Nibali won a TdF, and i never rated him as the best rider of any Tour he started. I mean he was the best rider that stayed on his bike during his tour win.