Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

[Charlyghoul]

more like top 3

And this is not trolling now?

 

[Andre]

And this is not trolling now?

no, I'm a regular

 

[Charlyghoul]

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Top 3 for Remco?
How does he get there ?

 

[Andre]

Top 3 for Remco?
How does he get there ?

check out the point system that @pantani Lives came up with

 

[Red Rick]

Is banking much of an issue if you are simply following the black line? (Genuine question, no knowledge of being on a track at all)

It's some G forces you're not gonna be used to as a pure road rider, so being a trackie should normally help, in combination with it basically being like 450ish 180 degree turns this wya.

I doubt it would be a make or break issue though.

 

[Charlyghoul]

check out the point system that @pantani Lives came up with

He has won one vuelta and some nice one day events. In what world can he be top 3?
I do not wish to be drawn in to an argument, but I think this is crazy.

 

[Berniece]

He has won one vuelta and some nice one day events. In what world can he be top 3?
I do not wish to be drawn in to an argument, but I think this is crazy.

He’s already 35th and you think he’s going to finish 25-30?

 

[Charlyghoul]

He’s already 35th and you think he’s going to finish 25-30?

According to what ?

 

[Andre]

He has won one vuelta and some nice one day events. In what world can he be top 3?
I do not wish to be drawn in to an argument, but I think this is crazy.

By the end of his career...God willing. I don't want to argue either, and will not; I only like conversations.

 

[AmRacer]

By the end of his career...God willing. I don't want to argue either, and will not; I only like conversations.

Who is the best rider of alltime?

The ProCyclingStats alltime ranking is led by Eddy Merckx with 3859.8 points, before Sean Kelly (2171.1 points) and Francesco Moser (2129.2 points). Considering the enormous gap between Merckx and Kelly (3859.8) we can conclude that Merckx is the best rider of all time.

www.procyclingstats.com

He's #45
If he doubles the points, he will finish #6

 

[Berniece]

According to what ?

Again, our all time ranking of this forum. The one that has been mentioned a couple of times now.

 

[Charlyghoul]

interesting ranking system. Fair play for someone having a go, but, Moser third best of all time?
Lemond 85th!

 

[Charlyghoul]

Again, our all time ranking of this forum. The one that has been mentioned a couple of times now.

With respect even you go purely on results the rankings for each race are very debatable. Lemond 85th and Rominger above Indurain? Really.

 

[Berniece]

With respect even you go purely on results the rankings for each race are very debatable. Lemond 85th and Rominger above Indurain? Really.

Then make your own, looking forward to it

 

[Red Rick]

I don't understand the sudden obsession with PCS rankings and at this point I am too afraid to ask.

 

[KoopaCycling]

Just people trying to do their best to put down a cyclist they don't like, Red Rick.
They'll be attacking everything and everywhere they see a glimmer of a chance to do so.

 

[AmRacer]

Just people trying to do their best to put down a cyclist they don't like, Red Rick.
They'll be attacking everything and everywhere they see a glimmer of a chance to do so.

What's the difference between pcs and the other ranking? Which one is more official and professional?

Selecting a ranking that fits your narrative?

 

[KoopaCycling]

What's the difference between pcs and the other ranking? Which one is more official and professional?

Selecting a ranking that fits your narrative?

I did not bother to go into the debate, cause i already know it would be like talking to a wall. I'm pretty sure the people were talking against the person on my ignore list. and he's on ignore for a reason. Don't mind adding more if needed. I don't mind constructive critiscm/realism. But people just trying to bring down a cyclist and their fans cause they dislike said rider and their fans are pointless for me to go into a discussion with.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Just people trying to do their best to put down a cyclist they don't like, Red Rick.
They'll be attacking everything and everywhere they see a glimmer of a chance to do so.

Jesus, you have a guy here saying Remco will be top3 in the end of his career
Do you know what this even means?
Pogacar
Hinault
Merckx
What are the odds Remco will be better than one of these riders?

 

[Brullnux]

I don't understand the sudden obsession with PCS rankings and at this point I am too afraid to ask.

I think just as a way to justify vibes or an inherently subjective topic (GOAT). Trouble is all the points rankings put someone like Roglic way ahead of Nibali and Contador (eg) cause of his one week stage dominance, whereas Contador to me has much the better palmares and Roglic/Nibali is balanced and open to debate according to whatever you think is more important.

In essence, I think it's totally useless.

 

[KoopaCycling]

I think i said i see him somewhere between top 10 and Top 25 when all is said and done. Which was my only contribution to the ranking conversation. (and remco has his work cut out for that to be true)

That does not change the validity of the point i just made.
The discussion isn't rly about where Remco will rank for some people ultimately.
It's about bringing a cyclist down a peg or two.

How something is conveyed matters at times almost as much as what is being conveyed. the motives off some people are clear.

 

[Charlyghoul]

Jesus, you have a guy here saying Remco will be top3 in the end of his career
Do you know what this even means?
Pogacar
Hinault
Merckx
What are the odds Remco will be better than one of these riders?

Here we can agree friend

 

[AmRacer]

I did not bother to go into the debate, cause i already know it would be like talking to a wall. I'm pretty sure the people were talking against the person on my ignore list. and he's on ignore for a reason. Don't mind adding more if needed. I don't mind constructive critiscm/realism. But people just trying to bring down a cyclist and their fans cause they dislike said rider and their fans are pointless for me to go into a discussion with.

You seem to be out of argument when discussing facts.

 

[AmRacer]

I think i said i see him somewhere between top 10 and Top 25 when all is said and done. Which was my only contribution to the ranking conversation. (and remco has his work cut out for that to be true)

That does not change the validity of the point i just made.
The discussion isn't rly about where Remco will rank for some people ultimately.
It's about bringing a cyclist down a peg or two.

How something is conveyed matters at times almost as much as what is being conveyed. the motives off some people are clear.

Top 10 to 25 at which list? Pcs or your preferred one?

 

[Peyroteo94]

I think i said i see him somewhere between top 10 and Top 25 when all is said and done. Which was my only contribution to the ranking conversation. (and remco has his work cut out for that to be true)

That does not change the validity of the point i just made.
The discussion isn't rly about where Remco will rank for some people ultimately.
It's about bringing a cyclist down a peg or two.

How something is conveyed matters at times almost as much as what is being conveyed. the motives off some people are clear.

more like top 3

I didn't say it was you