Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

[chickenlips]

No more excuses this season.

Unless he crashes, or gets sick, or, or, or, or.

 

[Red Rick]

I think we can agree that too large mass cost him a lot in some important races vs inferior opponents but also that some crashes made it harder for him to prepare good form (and optimal mass of course, he tends to get fatty quickly when off the training regime).

1 kg should be around 0.1 w/kg, which is around 1 second per 1 minute of very steep climb (the difference is lower on shallower climbs where gravity isn't such a dominant resistive force).

I'm pretty sure near peak weight you're gonna lose power very slightly as you drop weight. Otherwise it would just be too easy to maintain. Also you benefit by getting less fatigue over multiple climbs.

 

[Netserk]

I'm pretty sure near peak weight you're gonna lose power very slightly as you drop weight. Otherwise it would just be too easy to maintain. Also you benefit by getting less fatigue over multiple climbs.

hes heavier for the ardennes in order to push more power, but could counterfactually lose the marginal kg without losing any power on climbs

 

[red_flanders]

hes heavier for the ardennes in order to push more power, but could counterfactually lose the marginal kg without losing any power on climbs

I always assumed he was heavier in the spring 'cause it's just his more natural weight, moreso than anything intentional. And he really has to starve to get to GC weight.

 

[Netserk]

For rouleur purposes which help during Ardennes classics it's preferred he weighs a bit more

this means more power from the additional weight @red_flanders

 

[AmRacer]

I always assumed he was heavier in the spring 'cause it's just his more natural weight, moreso than anything intentional. And he really has to starve to get to GC weight.

That's my understanding too.

 

[Tim Cahill]

Proper weight management means you don't have to focus training efforts on maintaining a defecit, the only way to lose weight with minimal power loss is to either do it very slowly over a long period of time or just not have to do it at all. Coming into the season 4 or 5kgs above GT shape used to work when everyone was doing it, not so much now.

 

[AmRacer]

Proper weight management means you don't have to focus training efforts on maintaining a defecit, the only way to lose weight with minimal power loss is to either do it very slowly over a long period of time or just not have to do it at all. Coming into the season 4 or 5kgs above GT shape used to work when everyone was doing it, not so much now.

If some can be at GT weight all year long, and you must work hard for reaching your GT weight. You can lose endurance more so than power.

 

[red_flanders]

this means more power from the additional weight @red_flanders

I understand, I still wonder if that's really a plan, or moreso just what comes naturally.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

this means more power from the additional weight @red_flanders

It's really about if they can regulate additional muscle mass precisely in such a short time frame. It's likely that most of the additional mass is simply fat.

 

[red_flanders]

From the video I have seen he looks very relaxed on the bike, doesn't appear physically smaller or bigger than at his best. His available interviews are measured and positive. Guy is flying.
January, February he is already putting positive steps together for TDF.. Bora looks very organized..

Sounds like they were super strong tactically today from the write-ups I've seen.

 

[Berniece]

The day went perfect for him. Took that extra second and might catch 1 or 2 riders tomorrow

 

[Netserk]

It's really about if they can regulate additional muscle mass precisely in such a short time frame. It's likely that most of the additional mass is simply fat.

short?

gain is from end of previous season

loss is afterwards in time for the tour

no prob with the right help

 

[Krzysztof_O]

short?

gain is from end of previous season

loss is afterwards in time for the tour

no prob with the right help

There's like 2+ months between Liege and the Tour. If the mass difference is 3 kg (pretty normal by Remco standards) then I would think at least half of it (or more) is fat. You don't lose a few kg of muscles just like that, it's Fatco turning into Slimco. See how quickly he did it between Dauphine and Tour in 2024.

 

[Red Rick]

There's like 2+ months between Liege and the Tour. If the mass difference is 3 kg (pretty normal by Remco standards) then I would think at least half of it (or more) is fat. You don't lose a few kg of muscles just like that, it's Fatco turning into Slimco. See how quickly he did it between Dauphine and Tour in 2024.

It's easy enough. Women working in WWI ammunation factories found that out over a century ago.

 

[Jan the Man]

No, they aren't.

Agree to disagree. Thomas is arguable, but he turned 38 during the 2024 Giro and was patently past his prime. Hindley and Carapaz are patently more GT threats than Martinez. Both are past winners in the case of Carapaz also has multiple GT podiums outside the Giro. Carapaz’ pedigree in GTs is more extensive than Almeida’s who most people accept is likely to be Jonas’ closest advesary

 

[Krzysztof_O]

It's easy enough. Women working in WWI ammunation factories found that out over a century ago.

It's easy for pros to drop fat quickly due to large volume of aerobic training. It takes a bit less of incoming calories and the effect is quick. Problems can arise when it's done too quickly (and the body gets weaker instead of form improvement). As we saw, Remco did it quickly between Dauphine and Tour 2024 and it didn't backfire (Tour podium + two Olympic golds).

 

[Berniece]

It's easy for pros to drop fat quickly due to large volume of aerobic training. It takes a bit less of incoming calories and the effect is quick. Problems can arise when it's done too quickly (and the body gets weaker instead of form improvement). As we saw, Remco did it quickly between Dauphine and Tour 2024 and it didn't backfire (Tour podium + two Olympic golds).

Maybe he did it too quickly and could've won that TDF? /jk

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Maybe he did it too quickly and could've won that TDF? /jk

Remco could've won every Giro edition from 1909 to 2025. He could've won the Tour 2024 as well.
The difference was so stark: during Olympics decoration he looked as if he had just left a labour camp (compared to his usual look), his head was bigger than the rest of his body

 

[Ulle97]

How much can Remco beat Almeida by today??? I'm saying 30secs conservatively.

Do you think anybody else can beat him in the race overall?

 

[Berniece]

How much can Remco beat Almeida by today??? I'm saying 30secs conservatively.

Do you think anybody else can beat him in the race overall?

Do we know why Almeida was not in the front group yesterday? Want to know if he's not feeling well, or if he just missed something.

30s is quite a lot on this route. They did something very similar in Tour de Romandie last year, where Evenepoel only took 11s. And that was with much more straight roads. But that was also at the end of Romandie when Evenepoel wasn't riding well at all.

 

[Berniece]

Another day, another win. #4 already this season.

 

[SHAD0W93]

Do we know why Almeida was not in the front group yesterday? Want to know if he's not feeling well, or if he just missed something.

30s is quite a lot on this route. They did something very similar in Tour de Romandie last year, where Evenepoel only took 11s. And that was with much more straight roads. But that was also at the end of Romandie when Evenepoel wasn't riding well at all.

Looks like not feeling well and/or isn’t in shape yet.

 

[Berniece]

Looks like not feeling well and/or isn’t in shape yet.

I think he wasn’t paying attention because after today’s race he said he was planning on riding a good result during ITT today

 

[SHAD0W93]

I think he wasn’t posting attention because after today’s race he said he was planning on riding a good result during ITT today

Fair enough. I don’t see the PCS post above the stage results and just started reading the race thread. I was like damn how did you lose 3:44 on this.