The Sidebar Thread

[involution]

Cool it with Martins Twitter Digger. Revealing real life information about a poster is against the rules. Your Twitter account is kinda linked with your account here and you seem fine with people knowing about it, but Martin obviously isn't okay with you revealing his twitter account or other info about himself from outside the forum.

This would seem to be a bizarre ruling. This Martin Vickers character is attacking people in real life and using the forum as an extension of his war on members yet no one can mention what he is doing. This sort of protection will invite others to do the same.

 

[Digger]

Of course, if it was genuine curiosity, a DM would have sufficed, wouldn't it?

He didn't want clarification. He wanted to intimidate, to call out, to bully. He failed, but that was the intention, as is crystal clear from the previous threatening context.

You use your 'private' twitter account to follow what i say...use what i say on twitter on here...i am not allowed do the same...eventhough you have engaged with me on cycling issues, usally abuse from you, like being called biggotted (you later retracted)...seems fair
Plus you have give abuse to journalists like Stokes using that twitter handle...although when he confonted you, you ran off and said 'it's not you is the bigot, it's digger.'
So again address the way you behaved last summer with the standards you are demanding on here...hypocritical don't you think...

 

[Digger]

Thank you. And I apologise if I was curt, not your fault, but as you can see, this has been a frankly bizarre episode, and I have phasers set to stun

Meaning??????

 

[Digger]

It has no relevance here.
A dispute on twitter has no relevance here. A tweet may have, if relevant, but you were not doing that - you only linked to their name.

So Martin should not have mentioned my twitter feed...cheers dr thanks for that

 

[martinvickers]

This would seem to be a bizarre ruling. This Martin Vickers character is attacking people in real life and using the forum as an extension of his war on members yet no one can mention what he is doing. This sort of protection will invite others to do the same.

Ok, I'm calling sockpuppet on this. 3 posts in one hour from nowhere, and rather than professional road racing, or the clinic, he dives right in the middle of this most obscure 'about the forum' thread?

Not buying it.

 

[Benotti69]

MVickers has been consistent in his baiting of Digger, his use of Digger's first initial of Digger's first name in posts is proof of that.

Him telling a certain posters to **** out but letting others continue to press home against Digger shows this is personal.....

 

[Netserk]

Come on guys. Calm it down. I haven't got my moderator rights yet, but if you haven't calmed down when I do get them then my first act as moderator will be to delete large chunks of the "discussion" and dust down the "ban" key.

Thanks.

They won't hand you that key

 

[Dr. Maserati]

I dont care what happened. Just saying that if youre going to troll people, dont do it with anything thats got your real life name attached to it. This is so basic, maybe Martin should consider it a lesson learned and move on.

So in your opinion, it is ok for someone to reveal the real life personal details of someone they think is trolling them?
If you do, that is nonsense.

So Martin should not have mentioned my twitter feed...cheers dr thanks for that

Not a very subtle attempt to twist what I said. Pretty disgraceful actually.

MV brought up something you posted - you brought in their real name, that had no relevance to anything. Very very different.

 

[Digger]

So in your opinion, it is ok for someone to reveal the real life personal details of someone they think is trolling them?
If you do, that is nonsense.



Not a very subtle attempt to twist what I said. Pretty disgraceful actually.

MV brought up something you posted - you brought in their real name, that had no relevance to anything. Very very different.


If someone has a dispute on twitter, then leave it on twitter - its not that difficult.

Disgraceful altogether!!

Which is what martin did...you are having trouble with this one Dr

I also asked martin directly on twitter btw - he did not reply.

 

[martinvickers]

MVickers has been consistent in his baiting of Digger, his use of Digger's first initial of Digger's first name in posts is proof of that.

Him telling a certain posters to **** out but letting others continue to press home against Digger shows this is personal.....

Baiting Digger? Are you serious?

And how exactly do I 'let' others press against anybody? How exactly do I control Dr M? Gooner? Afrank? W&G? Do tell - inquiring minds want to know.

But let's be clear, when a poster threatens me, Yes, then it's personal.

And let's be clear - one thing drew you from absolutely nowhere to this thread - the desire to attack posters personally you don't like. Pure baiting.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Disgraceful altogether!!

Which is what martin did...you are having trouble with this one Dr

I also asked martin directly on twitter btw - he did not reply.

He mentioned your initial? Correct?
He did not reveal your name - as you did.

 

[martinvickers]

Not a very subtle attempt to twist what I said. Pretty disgraceful actually.

Pretty much his MO, actually.

 

[the sceptic]

So in your opinion, it is ok for someone to reveal the real life personal details of someone they think is trolling them?
If you do, that is nonsense.

Where did I say that? I personally wouldnt post anyones twitter here unless it was already publicly known, but I dont blame Digger for doing so.

 

[martinvickers]

Originally Posted by Dr. Maserati
So in your opinion, it is ok for someone to reveal the real life personal details of someone they think is trolling them?
If you do, that is nonsense.

Where did I say that? I personally wouldnt post anyones twitter here unless it was already publicly known, but I dont blame Digger for doing so.

Erm, THAT's where you said that.

 

[Digger]

Pretty much his MO, actually.

You seem afraid to address my points - or cowardly as you labelled me.


You got banned from here for calling the mods 'immoral and dishonest'.

Anger management is your friend Martin.

And you are the one who threatened me

 

[gooner]

MVickers has been consistent in his baiting of Digger, his use of Digger's first initial of Digger's first name in posts is proof of that.

Him telling a certain posters to **** out but letting others continue to press home against Digger shows this is personal.....

You say this and it was Digger who brought in the personal twitter account which he's not even so sure it's MartinV's. He just said now he asked the person on the account if it's MartinV and got no reply. That proves his motive was to disclose someone's personal identity to the forum.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Where did I say that? I personally wouldnt post anyones twitter here unless it was already publicly known, but I dont blame Digger for doing so.

It is not about a twitter username - I have one, people are free to link and post to it if its relevant to something.

This is about posting someones twitter name to expose their real life name.

 

[martinvickers]

You seem afraid to address my points - or cowardly as you labelled me.


You got banned from here for calling the mods 'immoral and dishonest'.

Anger management is your friend Martin.

That's what happens when you quote second hand from a posters sig, Digger. you make a tw*t of yourself.

I had a ban, some time ago, for describing 'actions' that way - I was quite careful not to call Susan herself that.

BTW, where IS that money?

 

[gooner]

I personally wouldnt post anyones twitter here unless it was already publicly known,

MartinV's account wasn't known to the forum.

And then you say this.

but I dont blame Digger for doing so.

Which means you are all over the place on the 2 points you just made.

 

[Benotti69]

You say this and it was Digger who brought in the personal twitter account which he's not even so sure it's MartinV's. He just said now he asked the person on the account if it's MartinV and got no reply. That proves his motive was to disclose someone's personal identity to the forum.

MV kept posting the initial of Digger's 1st name and this started not today.

MVs twitter account is not private anyone can read it.

 

[martinvickers]

MartinV's account wasn't known to the forum.

And then you say this.



Which means you are all over the place on the 2 points you just made.

Sceptic's position on this is summed up quite easily in two posts

Originally by the sceptic

Im a bit upset that I havent been able to vortex you into getting banned yet but maybe one day.

How can you challenge anyone when you never have any opinions of your own? All you ever do is cry for evidence and facts

Originally by the sceptic

Cool story dr Phil, but youre missing the point.

I dont care if you take me seriously or not. And Im also not interested in winning discussions with you.

All I want is for you to get banned, so I dont have to wade through your moronic posts anymore.

Flagrant, nay proud, admission of baiting and trolling out of sheer animus. Not sanctioned yet; another issue for the mods...

 

[involution]

If someone has a dispute on twitter, then leave it on twitter - its not that difficult.

That cuts both ways. If someone has a dispute on the forum then it should be left on the forum. It should not be carried over to twitter, and if it is the person should not expect protection. You are treating this like the twitter account in question is not intertwined with a forum dispute. Martin Vickers made the forum dispute and the twitter dispute one and the same.

What we have here is a case of internet stalking. Martin Vickers' has attacked someone here. He is using twitter to attack the same person. He has used a twitter account linked to his real life identity to try to goad others into taking action against Digger in the real world. This is a nasty piece of work who wants his acts cloaked in secrecy.

 

[Benotti69]

It is not about a twitter username - I have one, people are free to link and post to it if its relevant to something.

This is about posting someones twitter name to expose their real life name.

It is hardly exposure if the twitter account is available to public viewing.

MV's twitter account is not blocked as of this post.

 

[martinvickers]

That cuts both ways. If someone has a dispute on the forum then it should be left on the forum. It should not be carried over to twitter, and if it is the person should not expect protection. You are treating this like the twitter account in question is not intertwined with a forum dispute. Martin Vickers made the forum dispute and the twitter dispute one and the same.

What we have here is a case of internet stalking. Martin Vickers' has attacked someone here. He is using twitter to attack the same person. He has used a twitter account linked to his real life identity to try to goad others into taking action against Digger in the real world. This is a nasty piece of work who wants his acts cloaked in secrecy.

You are out of your mind, whichever sockpuppet you are.

 

[the sceptic]

It is not about a twitter username - I have one, people are free to link and post to it if its relevant to something.

This is about posting someones twitter name to expose their real life name.

well, I wont shed any tears for Martin Vickers in this case, Vortex. Hope you can forgive me.

His constant trolling and baiting is tiresome, and if he has been using the same style on the same people here and on twitter... while baiting with things like "hey, I know your real life name and there is nothing you can do about it"

Again, I wouldnt do it myself. But its not hard to imagine how someone else would.