The Sidebar Thread

[martinvickers]

Your claim that Moore and Kimmage thing sparked off because of Kimmage, according to Moore, seeking a position with Sky...that BS

I made no such claim. Don't lie.

You made a cryptic reference to what "moore did to kimmage" - nothing about who started anything, just this short cryptic crap - and given the context of gooner's original post, it was perfectly reasonable to ask whether you meant the Moore-Slot-Kimmage twitter fallout.

Rather than simply answer the question, as you usual you squirmed around trying to pretend you were 'in the know'. As usual.

 

[Digger]

I made no such claim. Don't lie.

You made a cryptic reference to what "moore did to kimmage" - nothing about who started anything, just this short cryptic crap - and given the context of gooner's original post, it was perfectly reasonable to ask whether you meant the Moore-Slot-Kimmage twitter fallout.

Rather than simply answer the question, as you usual you squirmed around trying to pretend you were 'in the know'. As usual.

Did you or did you not also allude to Sky and Kimmage and Moore? Do you know the full context of them not getting on? Yes or no.

Look Martin if you are having trouble with your internet connection which means you can't find it out....

Also please do specify examples of where I squirmed!! Not my fault I am in the know and you aren't...because it is a small Island

And please specify who or how you were told about Kimmage and Sky...otherwise it's BS Martin!!

Ball not the man now Dude...but apparently we'll know when you are angry...grrrrr!!!

You get angry when you are banned? You must be angry a lot!

 

[gooner]

Did you or did you not also allude to Sky and Kimmage and Moore? Do you know the full context of them not getting on? Yes or no.

Look Martin if you are having trouble with your internet connection which means you can't find it out....

Also please do specify examples of where I squirmed!! Not my fault I am in the know and you aren't...because it is a small Island

And please specify who or how you were told about Kimmage and Sky...otherwise it's BS Martin!!

Ball not the man now Dude...but apparently we'll know when you are angry...grrrrr!!!

You get angry when you are banned? You must be angry a lot!

I referred to a specific incident on twitter regarding Kimmage/Moore/Slot on the back of the Second Captains interview. You refuse to answer my question whether you endorsed that insult by Kimmage on this topic in question.

I don't care if they had a previous feud. I wasn't referring to that here. You're spinning it. Taking away even this, he has disgracefully done this to a normal fan on twitter and to the guy who runs a great Irish cycling website in stickybottle. You go around calling guys like Kennaugh a bully and yet you refuse to condemn these insults which are on a far worse level.

 

[Digger]

I referred to a specific incident on twitter regarding Kimmage/Moore/Slot on the back of the Second Captains interview. You refuse to answer my question whether you endorsed that insult by Kimmage on this topic in question.

I don't care if they had a previous feud. I wasn't referring to that here. You're spinning it. Taking away even this, he has disgracefully done this to a normal fan on twitter and to the guy who runs a great Irish cycling website in stickybottle. You go around calling guys like Kennaugh a bully and yet you refuse to condemn these insults which are on a far worse level.

This thing about where I specifically referred to Kennaugh as a 'bully' - please show me.
I absolutely criticised him heavily - but 'bully'?
Have you followed Walsh's twitter by any chance and the insults he has put out to people...

And considering what Moore has done and the way he behaved, I completely endorse what Paul said in reply...why? because he is allowed defend himself.

Also you make it out that Stickybottle and that fan did nothing wrong - what did he say to that fan btw?

Regarding Stickybottle - do you know the context again? It's all very well to say a person shouldn't reply badly - but without the context, something which continues to elude you....

 

[gooner]

This thing about where I specifically referred to Kennaugh as a 'bully' - please show me.
I absolutely criticised him heavily - but 'bully'?
Have you followed Walsh's twitter by any chance and the insults he has put out to people...

And considering what Moore has done and the way he behaved, I completely endorse what Paul said in reply...why? because he is allowed defend himself.

Also you make it out that Stickybottle and that fan did nothing wrong - what did he say to that fan btw?

Regarding Stickybottle - do you know the context again? It's all very well to say a person shouldn't reply badly - but without the context, something which continues to elude you....

https://twitter.com/Digger_forum/status/414329774543106048

A fan queried why he didn't question Dan Martin after his LBL win like he did with Nico Roche after Kreuziger's win the previous week. Paul ended up telling the guy "he had the brain the size of a pea".

Kimmage went off on one because he wanted stickybottle to report 100% against McQuaid and called him a "spinless ******" about it. Yet this website gave Shane Stokes a platform for a feature piece during the CI nomination process to say it was time for McQuaid to be removed. They also carried quotes from Anto Moran and Conor McGrane. On the other side they did it with some of the McQuaid family which you are meant to do with both sides of the argument.

That's a good little website which does great work on informing people on Irish cycling and it was out of order to throw that insult at the time. That was one of the best sources during this whole situation.

 

[martinvickers]

Did you or did you not also allude to Sky and Kimmage and Moore? Do you know the full context of them not getting on? Yes or no.

No. Simple. No. Because I didn't ALLUDE to anything. I asked a question, straight out, and you started squirming.

Also please do specify examples of where I squirmed!! Not my fault I am in the know and you aren't...because it is a small Island

Well, where will we start? The allegations you suddenly deletedunder pressure from Vaughters about Magnus Bäckstedt?

The nine hour squirm trying to pretend you had insider knowledge of Sky doping to Velocast, before admitting it was cr^p?

And that's just off the top of my head.

And please specify who or how you were told about Kimmage and Sky...otherwise it's BS Martin!!

What, I'm supposed to out my sources to the likes of ye? Seriously?



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You get angry when you are banned? You must be angry a lot!

How many times has that been, Digger? You've clearly got the records, no?

As for anger, I think offers to fight people, as in the kimmage fund thread, probably count, no?

 

[Digger]

No. Simple. No. Because I didn't ALLUDE to anything. I asked a question, straight out, and you started squirming.





Well, where will we start? The allegations you suddenly deletedunder pressure from Vaughters about Magnus Bäckstedt?

The nine hour squirm trying to pretend you had insider knowledge of Sky doping to Velocast, before admitting it was cr^p?

And that's just off the top of my head.



What, I'm supposed to out my sources to the likes of ye? Seriously?



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How many times has that been, Digger? You've clearly got the records, no?

As for anger, I think offers to fight people, as in the kimmage fund thread, probably count, no?

That's exactly what you want me to do.

And when I don't, you say it's lies!! Magnus thing, velocast thing...if I don't reveal my sources it's lies...with everyone else it's fair game!!

You are getting angry again Martin...take it easy with the personal attacks. Or you will get banned. Again! Why do you keep getting banned? Did you not make a threat last night? tut tut

With the personal attacks you have in your posts against me and others so often, would you say you get angry easily?

Also just to clarify, you are saying I made up the Magnus thing from thin air? Anyway looking forward to meeting you...small island...exciting times!!

Admit it - you don't know what context means and you don't know the background to Moore and kimmage. Eventhough you thought the Sky Kimmage job thing was the start of it.

 

[Digger]

https://twitter.com/Digger_forum/status/414329774543106048

A fan queried why he didn't question Dan Martin after his LBL win like he did with Nico Roche after Kreuziger's win the previous week. Paul ended up telling the guy "he had the brain the size of a pea".

Kimmage went off on one because he wanted stickybottle to report 100% against McQuaid and called him a "spinless ******" about it. Yet this website gave Shane Stokes a platform for a feature piece during the CI nomination process to say it was time for McQuaid to be removed. They also carried quotes from Anto Moran and Conor McGrane. On the other side they did it with some of the McQuaid family which you are meant to do with both sides of the argument.

That's a good little website which does great work on informing people on Irish cycling and it was out of order to throw that insult at the time. That was one of the best sources during this whole situation.

Your opinion...they also basically ignored how pat had initiated a lawsuit...all coming back to that thing context...as regards that twitter user...do you have idea the abuse Journal Velo gives Kimmage?!!! Which is fine..he is entitled to his views on Kimmage, but Paul has no right of reply?!! Again...context.

Any luck with finding out where I called Kennaugh a 'bully'? Because that tweet doesn't call him a bully. Although I am curious to know whether you agree with Kennaugh's original statement on Kimmage? Because that could be telling...also do you think sky are clean?

 

[ebandit]

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You are getting angry again Martin...take it easy with the personal attacks. Or you will get banned. Again! Why do you keep getting banned? Did you not make a threat last night? tut tut

With the personal attacks you have in your posts against me and others so often, would you say you get angry easily?

cool!.............where there is no defence............play the 'angry' card

Mark L

 

[Digger]

cool!.............where there is no defence............play the 'angry' card

Mark L

we all keep missing the context word on here - and they all so happen to be sky fans!! amazing...but you may want to look back at who used that 'angry' card first yesterday

 

[ebandit]

angry

cool! the member who plays the 'angry' card the most................always lieing

Mark L

 

[Digger]

cool! the member who plays the 'angry' card the most................always lieing

Mark L

Aren't you just back from a ban also?!!

 

[ebandit]

ban

so i should be banned for having once been banned? i once disagreed with a mod...............shock horror!

or being dull?

or riding my dogma............ah well?

Mark L

 

[martinvickers]

That's exactly what you want me to do.

And when I don't, you say it's lies!! Magnus thing, velocast thing...if I don't reveal my sources it's lies...with everyone else it's fair game!!

You deleted it under threat of action. Pretty clear you made it up out of whole cloth. You asked for an example. You got one.

You are getting angry again Martin...take it easy with the personal attacks. Or you will get banned. Again! Why do you keep getting banned? Did you not make a threat last night? tut tut

Seriously, how often do you think I've been banned, Digger? you seem to be under a misapprehension on this...

Also just to clarify, you are saying I made up the Magnus thing from thin air? Anyway looking forward to meeting you...small island...exciting times!!

I hope that's not an attempt at a threat, k. For your sake.

Admit it - you don't know what context means and you don't know the background to Moore and kimmage. Eventhough you thought the Sky Kimmage job thing was the start of it.

This is simply gibberish now. What background do you want, Digger? 'Sky's the Limit'? 'LeMond's skits'? What are you going on about? O are you simply trolling, again?

 

[martinvickers]

Your opinion...they also basically ignored how pat had initiated a lawsuit...all coming back to that thing context...as regards that twitter user...do you have idea the abuse Journal Velo gives Kimmage?!!! Which is fine..he is entitled to his views on Kimmage, but Paul has no right of reply?!! Again...context.

Any luck with finding out where I called Kennaugh a 'bully'? Because that tweet doesn't call him a bully. Although I am curious to know whether you agree with Kennaugh's original statement on Kimmage? Because that could be telling...also do you think sky are clean?

It's not calling him a bully?

F*** the hypocrisy
‏@Digger_forum 1:41 AM - 21 Dec 2013

@Petekennaugh Bully boy behaviour lives on the in the 'new generation.' Do you take a sh*t when David allows you to?

That's not calling him a bully?

That piece of sophistry is just as pathetic and dishonest as they come, and shows you for what you are, Digger. The tweet is plain as day. And you are basically dishonest. Well played.

 

[Digger]

You deleted it under threat of action. Pretty clear you made it up out of whole cloth. You asked for an example. You got one.



Seriously, how often do you think I've been banned, Digger? you seem to be under a misapprehension on this...






I hope that's not an attempt at a threat, k. For your sake.





This is simply gibberish now. What background do you want, Digger? 'Sky's the Limit'? 'LeMond's skits'? What are you going on about? O are you simply trolling, again?

You are threatening me Martin!!!

And whilst the above is actually a threat by you - my comment about small island and bumping into you was alluding to your comment earlier about anger, small island, maybe knowing people I know!! which come to think of it might also have been a threat by you! so last night's threat about others knowing when you are angry...and not these threats...when all I said was that I look forward to meeting you, as I do all sky fans, for comedic value alone...

why are you threatening people martin?!!

I hope that's not an attempt at a threat, k. For your sake

Ball not the man martin - as we agreed yesterday!

 

[Digger]

It's not calling him a bully?





That's not calling him a bully?

That piece of sophistry is just as pathetic and dishonest as they come, and shows you for what you are, Digger. The tweet is plain as day. And you are basically dishonest. Well played.

No it's not calling him a bully!! Can you not read? And stop with the personal attacks Martin please!

 

[Digger]

You deleted it under threat of action. Pretty clear you made it up out of whole cloth. You asked for an example. You got one.



Seriously, how often do you think I've been banned, Digger? you seem to be under a misapprehension on this...






I hope that's not an attempt at a threat, k. For your sake.



This is simply gibberish now. What background do you want, Digger? 'Sky's the Limit'? 'LeMond's skits'? What are you going on about? O are you simply trolling, again?

Your opinion!!

 

[martinvickers]

]No it's not calling him a bully[/B]!! Can you not read? And stop with the personal attacks Martin please!

In which case, I repeat; that piece of sophistry is just as pathetic and dishonest as they come, and shows you for what you are, Digger. The tweet is plain as day. And you are basically dishonest. Well played.

 

[martinvickers]

You are threatening me Martin!!!

Where have I threatened you, K? You're the one talking about 'meeting up'. fairly clear inference- A foolish one, but clear all the same.

 

[gooner]

Unbelievable, a tweet that can't be more crystal clear showing him calling Kennaugh a bully and he still denies it.

In honour of your username, could you please stop digging.

 

[Digger]

Where have I threatened you, K? You're the one talking about 'meeting up'. fairly clear inference- A foolish one, but clear all the same.

You threatened me by saying it better not be!!! how is that not a threat!! I would love to meet up with you...you are very paranoid if you took that as a threat!! this anger and paranoia by you is amazing!

 

[Digger]

Unbelievable, a tweet that can't be more crystal clear showing him calling Kennaugh a bully and he still denies it.

In honour of your username, could you please stop digging.

Bully boy behaviour is not the same as bully!!!

haha!

So do you and Martin think sky are clean?

 

[Digger]

Anyway gooner and martin don't understand context...don't believe a person should defend himself...

Martin has serious anger issues...and took me saying I look forward to meeting him sometime, as he alluded to maybe knowing my friends, as a threat!!!

Martin let's be clear here - I was not threatening you!! I know the word context has brought up difficulties in understanding - but no threat.
Meanwhile Martin threatens me that I better not be threatening him!! And also hints that he might know people I know as it's a small island haha!

 

[Mellow Velo]

Dear me, it's worse than last night's infantile squabble.
You guys seriously need to cool down.

Digger: We've no history.
Having read your recent posts and the above links supplied by the others, I'd suggest you do yourself a favour and shut up for a while.
You have been caught out, fair and square.
Clearly, it's making you upset.
I suggest you take a time out, pour yourself a glass of something nice.