The Sky-Con-O-Meter. Predictions on how much more ridiculous they can get

[Ferminal]

Get an early night, the TT is tomorrow

 

[Alphabet]

Oops.

Well, tomorrow then!

 

[lemoogle]

Numbers on a piece of paper from past and present do not cover all variables that are found in racing.

So please tell me what information you're using to say that cycling is now clean and that's why people like froome are winning.
Because all that's left here is faith.

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

Cycling has got cleaner and cleaner since the end of that exact period. Froome would have been up against a higher percentage of doping during that period. Work ethic will only go so far when thats going on and when you know its happening you would be banging your head against a brick wall just like Froome and Porte would have been.

That a great line of reasoning.

So, to make clear, everybody doped untill that Vuelta d'Espagna 2011, and then stopped so clean Chris could shine like the new sun?

Or, could it be this 'chubby' normal and healthy looking guy

shed a few pounds without losing power and turn into this anorexic fellow in 2 months time:

But hey, Clean Chris is not the only one:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/lessons-have-been-learned-says-brailsford

To illustrate the point, Paul Kimmage asked Brailsford precisely how Peter Kennaugh had managed - by his own admission - to lose five kilograms since he lined up at the Tour de Romandie in late April.

"Through calorie deficit," Brailsford said bluntly, before then expanding slightly on his answer. "Why not speak to Nigel our nutritionist? It's a good question to ask. That is a lot of weight to lose and I totally agree with you. What do we do to get to that kind of weight loss? They're the types of questions that would be legitimate to answer. I don't think there's any great secret in that."

Just ask Nigel, the same one who turned fat Brad into an anorexic GT winner.

 

[lemoogle]

shed a few pounds without losing power and turn into this anorexic fellow in 2 months time

That applied to Wiggo though , Froome actually GAINED insane amounts of power to become a top TimeTrialist and Olympic medalist.

Cycling has got cleaner and cleaner since the end of that exact period. Froome would have been up against a higher percentage of doping during that period. Work ethic will only go so far when thats going on and when you know its happening you would be banging your head against a brick wall just like Froome and Porte would have been.

I guess that only applied to sky riders then? surely some other no British/sky guys would have picked up on that no?

 

[LaFlorecita]

Froome: climbing on a par with Armstrong. If he can do that clean, why wait til everyone stops juicing?

Great question.

 

[arvc40]

Hi all, I can not prove or disprove that Froome is doping so i will leave you to find the answers.

Hope you all enjoy the rest of the race.

 

[ebandit]

watch

Hi all, I can not prove or disprove that Froome is doping so i will leave you to find the answers.

Hope you all enjoy the rest of the race.

sir i will be watching avidly..............froomey set alarm bells ringing but it's
not known if he really is doping

of course no-one here knows adding to the fun of conjecture

a secret doping product that is so secret no-one has heard of it

if only the outcome could be settled once and for all

Mark L

 

[taiwan]

How's the fence there guys. Hope it's not one of them pointy ones.

 

[Benotti69]

Indurain set the alarm bells ringing when he passed Robert Millar and left him for dead on a Pyrenean mountain, Millars favoured hunting ground.

Riis set the alarm bells ringing when he stopped to look at other GC contenders and then rode away!

Armstrong on Sestriere set bells ringing for nearly everyone, except Walsh.

Landis with his solo ride.

Wiggins with his 2012 season.

Froome start ring bells in the Vuelta'11 and has been ringing them since!

It seems lots of fans are deaf!

 

[Gugashwill]

Tomorrow they are closest to their home.
So, the hosts might be considerable enough to cut their expenses for the return.
Or should the damage be maximized by waiting till the Ventoux?

 

[Ripper]

I assume that you are joking but just in case you are not:

Have you hung out with any of the local A grade/Cat 1 amateurs? All the ones I know are busting their balls doing 700 - 1000km per week with specific power based & interval training. And these are amateurs with no chance of making the ProTour.

Yet you're telling me that only British pro riders train hard? That all those other Pros from teams who are spending many millions of Euros trying to win Grand Tours are not really trying that hard? That all these Type A, ultra-competitive people are sitting on their backsides not willing to do the hard work.

This is the same rubbish that Armstrong came up with: 'we train harder'. What a freakin' insult. And what freakin' rubbish too.

Well Pharmstrong (and pretty much all dopers) do actually train harder. What they leave out is that the dope let's them train harder. Be faster pace, or fast pace for longer, or more miles, or better recovery, or ...

I love this stuff about Froome trains harder and there are lazy people everywhere. Lazy people do not become pro cyclists!

 

[thehog]

Well Pharmstrong (and pretty much all dopers) do actually train harder. What they leave out is that the dope let's them train harder. Be faster pace, or fast pace for longer, or more miles, or better recovery, or ...

I love this stuff about Froome trains harder and there are lazy people everywhere. Lazy people do not become pro cyclists!

I once had friend.

How do you drink all night? I'd say.

How do you say awake to the last person leaves?

How do you get up so early the next day I'd say?

Cocaine he'd said. Keeps me going he said. No sleep. Just drinking and partying.

No one could keep up.

It was the drugs you see.

 

[Ferminal]

"Cocaine, but not a lot" ?

 

[DirtyWorks]

Hi all, I can not prove or disprove that Froome is doping so i will leave you to find the answers.

Hope you all enjoy the rest of the race.

More demands for "proof." Alright then:

What qualifies as proof Froome is doping? I'm so charitable that I'm going to give you examples. Is it going to be used doping supplies witnessed as dumped by the press? That was vigorously denied by the deniers. I bet the UCI investigated it too. Just like Landis' claims. Will it be a doping positive? We know the UCI hides those.

Better come up with something better than those. Please be specific.

 

[the sceptic]

Can Dawgstrong keep this level of ridiculousness up or will he slow down at Ventoux?

 

[No_Balls]

Can Dawgstrong keep this level of ridiculousness up or will he slow down at Ventoux?

I wonder if they will do with Froome what they did the other day with Porte. Surely, Froome could afford losing some time in another attempt to masking the obvious.

I dont think they will try another ***-moment and i am not sure they are confident in Froomes abilities of not trying to do so. Better safe then sorry. The dawg must be chained and keep a closer look on his wattages.

I predict some terrible acting at some moment.

 

[Alpechraxler]

Depends on the bloodbags left. Porte used 2 so far. Froome 3.

 

[Benotti69]

I wonder if they will do with Froome what they did the other day with Porte. Surely, Froome could afford losing some time in another attempt to masking the obvious.

I dont think they will try another ***-moment and i am not sure they are confident in Froomes abilities of not trying to do so. Better safe then sorry. The dawg must be chained and keep a closer look on his wattages.

I predict some terrible acting at some moment.

Yes i agree, i think Sky let T Martin win today for good pr amongst the teams in the hope to win friends.

But will it work. I doubt it.

 

[thehog]

I wonder if they will do with Froome what they did the other day with Porte. Surely, Froome could afford losing some time in another attempt to masking the obvious.

I dont think they will try another ***-moment and i am not sure they are confident in Froomes abilities of not trying to do so. Better safe then sorry. The dawg must be chained and keep a closer look on his wattages.

I predict some terrible acting at some moment.

The UCI/Cookson/ASO are in a bind with the Dawg. If they take him down then cycling is no longer “clean”. If they leave him go he’s turning the sport into a farce. Everyone is literally shaking their heads at this year’s Tour.

I honestly think they don’t know what to do.

I agree there’s going to be some bad acting coming our way in the next few days.

 

[silverrocket]

I haven't read any evidence of Sky/Froome doing anything different from any other elite cyclists. Winter training? Cat 1's in my Canadian province are doing that in -30 and snow. I find it too hard to believe that Sky can have some top secret training methods that nobody has figured out before, and somehow nobody ever sees, and that somehow those training techniques are so advanced that they outstrip the improvements one could make from doping.

 

[icefire]

Fraudsford should convince his kid to slow down a bit and keep his legs fresh to have a go at the Vuelta

 

[jilbiker]

The UCI/Cookson/ASO are in a bind with the Dawg. If they take him down then cycling is no longer “clean”. If they leave him go he’s turning the sport into a farce. Everyone is literally shaking their heads at this year’s Tour.

I honestly think they don’t know what to do.

I agree there’s going to be some bad acting coming our way in the next few days.

I think it looks very bad for Cookson. The more rediculous it gets the more likely bike clubs/sponsors/etc will not want a British guy to be head. Yes the only other choice left is Pat'o'Boy but Cookson begins to look like jumping from the pot into the fire??

 

[keeponrollin]

I think it looks very bad for Cookson. The more rediculous it gets the more likely bike clubs/sponsors/etc will not want a British guy to be head. Yes the only other choice left is Pat'o'Boy but Cookson begins to look like jumping from the pot into the fire??

+1

This is Pat's chance to spike Cookson's gun. Especially as he's been telling us all how much work he's been doing to make cycling cleaner. It's a big risk though, the blow back could be nasty !

 

[Stueyy]

I think it looks very bad for Cookson. The more rediculous it gets the more likely bike clubs/sponsors/etc will not want a British guy to be head. Yes the only other choice left is Pat'o'Boy but Cookson begins to look like jumping from the pot into the fire??

Exactly, why on earth would anyone with links to British cycling be a good choice for UCI president? Did anyone not see the London Olympics, doping in British sport is prevalent and testing at the Olympics and Pre-Olympics was a joke. Cycling is no longer the doping king of sport, the Olympics now carry that mantle.