The Sports Illustrated Article

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MacRoadie said:
It's all good here my friend. ;)

Came in to the office, had a nice cup of Kona, answered a couple of emails, finalized some plans for a trip to Hawaii at Easter, and checked on the status of a new set of ZIPP 808's I have on the way.

All is good. Out of the office early and out on the bike. 80 degrees in So Cal today.

Tomorrow will be pretty good too.

I had a nice day which became nearly perfect, too. Have fun.
You are lucky that you were finally able to make a choice how to spent your money. :D
 
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For years this is the type of "Journalism" that Terry practiced

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When a celebrity screws up, say gets caught doing blow with some hookers, they make a call to Terry and he gets one of his people to write a puff piece. IN this case Wonderboy's legal threatening, begging, anything to keep the truth from coming out.

The SI piece will run, it will just be a watered down version thanks to Terry's lack of backbone and celebrity fetish.

Time to go back to editing the Nation Inquire Terry, and leave the media business to the big boys.
 
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MacRoadie said:
It's all good here my friend. ;)

Came in to the office, had a nice cup of Kona, answered a couple of emails, finalized some plans for a trip to Hawaii at Easter, and checked on the status of a new set of ZIPP 808's I have on the way.

All is good. Out of the office early and out on the bike. 80 degrees in So Cal today.

Tomorrow will be pretty good too.


Tell Ralph Elliott I miss him dearly.
 
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Granville57 said:
I'm also wondering if more will come from the initial Bonnie D. Ford interview with Landis. We've only seen and heard excerpts. At the very least I hope she releases the entire transcript at some point.

Back on the SI topic: As others have stated, the average SI reader has no clue about cycling, and most of them haven't the inclination to become informed. As much as I would like to see it, I've long felt that any truly explosive and revealing article on LA, in a magazine that lives for college basketball and the swimsuit issue, would be akin to publishing a stunning breakthrough in quantum physics in the pages of People Magazine—it would be beyond what most of its readers would be able, or even willing, to comprehend.

(Sadly, the same could be said for at least half the readers of Bicycling and Velonews as well.)

+1 love the analogy...so apt:D
 
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thehog said:
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The Sunday Times pumped it. They were not happy. They think its pay-back. Fancy taking those events out in the lead up to the London Games. Criminal.
Can you provide a copy of that Times article?
 
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Glenn_Wilson said:
You scoop guys have lost some credibility in regards to upcoming SI articles.


thehog said:
There was never a scoop. The guys are reading this feed..... and feeding off each other.
http://twitter.com/nyvelocity

:eek: Who say whaaa? :confused:

thehog said:
The pre-release SI cover comes out tomorrow. iPad users get first glimpse.

thehog said:
The cover is released early then the magazine follows.

thehog said:
I don't think he'll be allowed to leave the country. Just my own thought. Although in saying that the SI article is a due to be published on the 18th so perhaps they'll let him get hit there in Australia? Upon return arrest him.

thehog said:
SI takes a one week break over the Xmas break.

Much better the article coincides with the TDU* for maximum effect & sales.

NB The swimsuit edition kicks in on Feb 8th.

Not that I think he'll ride.

thehog said:
27th I think.

thehog said:
Nope it's still on. Not sure in what capacity but before Christmas. I guess in 72 hours we'll know. There's two competing articles. No one is going to let the holiday sales get hit.

thehog said:
Word is coming to me that there is going to be quite the story in next Wednesday’s Sports Illustrated. I’m feeling that this isn’t going to be a happy Christmas for a few people.

http://neilbrowne.com/2010/12/uci-man-up-or-shut-up/

Bets on Armstrong making the TDU?

I guess it's just me then :rolleyes:
 
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People keep talking about what the article no longer is. I want to know what it was, and what it's supposed to be about now. What exactly is the subject?
 

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bianchigirl said:
I suggest we mobilise those who would like to hear the incontrovertible truth to bombard Terry McDonnell with questions as to why he has backed down

Good suggestion, and I would add write a letter - NOT e-mail.
Heck, multiple letters would be fine too. Seperate envelopes though.
And double stamp them so they go faster.
Lets flood the offices of SI with SACKS of mail grrrr.

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Good post Granville57.

Agree with BianchiGirl. Don't like SI not having a spine enough to publish something of substance, then write them an e-mail. Also agree with Polish that a letter may carry more weight than an e-mail.

As I said some time ago, I had the strong feeling that whatever article does get published, it won't contain any surprises to anyone on here. At best it would be informative for the masses. This still remains the case.

What will be interesting is not if, but when and as, the information that was leaked to SI filters out to other outlets who will have the balls to publish. Just because SI caves, doesn't mean everyone else will. That's how journalism works much of the time.
 
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Alpe d'Huez said:
Good post Granville57.

Agree with BianchiGirl. Don't like SI not having a spine enough to publish something of substance, then write them an e-mail. Also agree with Polish that a letter may carry more weight than an e-mail.

As I said some time ago, I had the strong feeling that whatever article does get published, it won't contain any surprises to anyone on here. At best it would be informative for the masses. This still remains the case.

What will be interesting is not if, but when and as, the information that was leaked to SI filters out to other outlets who will have the balls to publish. Just because SI caves, doesn't mean everyone else will. That's how journalism works much of the time.

TMZ baby. TMZ.
 
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this has sponsor pressure written all over it.

i wonder did the clinic unintentionally tip off uniballer to what was coming and he got his pubic stratalies to round up the sponsors to put the squeeze on SI....
 
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Benotti69 said:
this has sponsor pressure written all over it.

i wonder did the clinic unintentionally tip off uniballer to what was coming and he got his pubic stratalies to round up the sponsors to put the squeeze on SI....

A publication like SI will get sources (probably anonymous ones) and then seek comment from everyone named BY the sources. If the interview process itself doesn't tip them off, the fact-checking process most certainly will.

This is not sponsor pressure. This is "pay a guy to work his connections with board members at Time Warner" kinda pressure. Lance paid a lot of money for this watering job.
 
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BotanyBay said:
A publication like SI will get sources (probably anonymous ones) and then seek comment from everyone named BY the sources. If the interview process itself doesn't tip them off, the fact-checking process most certainly will.

This is not sponsor pressure. This is "pay a guy to work his connections with board members at Time Warner" kinda pressure. Lance paid a lot of money for this watering job.

not so sure.

Dolce and Gabbana are being investigated in Italy for not paying tax on an estimated 1billion euro earnings.......this made a few paragraphs in some newspapers.

Valentino Rossi got done on 70million euro. front page news

Mario Cipollini investigated on 5million. front page news.

Fabio Cappello another whose tax investigation made front page news

Dolce and Gabbana regularly take out full double page colours ads in the national media, not just fashion rags.....the story has not reappeared as an ongoing story. advertising money is important.
 
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Benotti69 said:
not so sure.

Dolce and Gabbana are being investigated in Italy for not paying tax on an estimated 1billion euro earnings.......this made a few paragraphs in some newspapers.

Valentino Rossi got done on 70million euro. front page news

Mario Cipollini investigated on 5million. front page news.

Fabio Cappello another whose tax investigation made front page news

Dolce and Gabbana regularly take out full double page colours ads in the national media, not just fashion rags.....the story has not reappeared as an ongoing story. advertising money is important.

I wasn't aware that Lance did business with SI. Which of his ads appear there? Keep in mind that if SI wants to sell magazines, they also have to treat their audience intelligently. They still write negative stories about Baseball, football, hockey and basketball players, and still seem to be in business.
 
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BotanyBay said:
I wasn't aware that Lance did business with SI. Which of his ads appear there? Keep in mind that if SI wants to sell magazines, they also have to treat their audience intelligently. They still write negative stories about Baseball, football, hockey and basketball players, and still seem to be in business.

keep in mind that nike like uniballer, oakley like him and magazines value advertising big time. they give advertisers the shout over editorial more often than not. the SI is not a serious investigative journal. it appears they like bikini's more than anything else, why not drop some heavy stuff from an article about a sport hardly anyone cares about if it pleases the head of nike and oakley.

as for the other sports. you can write something heavy about a team and not alienate every other reader as they dont all support the sport, they support teams. so the stuff is presented about individuals on individual teams. LA is american cycling. he goes down big time, american cycling probably goes down with him.

take golf. woods did not make golf popular, it already was. but he made it globally accessible, which is what every sport wants because that attracts sponsors. Fifa doesn't want to introduce technology to soccer/football as it makes it less accessible to poorer nations, where it can grow and make money for fifa and its sponsors.

edit; in woods case golf had a solid fanbase and woods did not get an easy ride in the media. he has lost sponsors but the sport hasn't suffered.
Armstrong is connected to cycling through lots of different threads. it was almost built around his name, so easier for sponsors to pipe up and pressure sporting publications.
 
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In July 2008, a BBC investigation found documents indicating that over three million dollars were paid by Japanese race organizers as reimbursements for UCI expenses during Verbruggen's tenure as president, including five flights to the Netherlands for Verbruggen personally in 1999.[7] The investigation cited sources within the UCI who confirmed that the repayments were "explicitly a payback for getting keirin into the Games". Verbruggen denied any wrongdoing, and the UCI ignored BBC requests for clarification.

You killed the article. You have the scatalogical touch hog. How about next time, if there is a next time, you let someone else leak it, mmmmkay?
 
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Benotti69 said:
keep in mind that nike like uniballer, oakley like him and magazines value advertising big time. they give advertisers the shout over editorial more often than not. the SI is not a serious investigative journal. it appears they like bikini's more than anything else, why not drop some heavy stuff from an article about a sport hardly anyone cares about if it pleases the head of nike and oakley.

as for the other sports. you can write something heavy about a team and not alienate every other reader as they dont all support the sport, they support teams. so the stuff is presented about individuals on individual teams. LA is american cycling. he goes down big time, american cycling probably goes down with him.

take golf. woods did not make golf popular, it already was. but he made it globally accessible, which is what every sport wants because that attracts sponsors. Fifa doesn't want to introduce technology to soccer/football as it makes it less accessible to poorer nations, where it can grow and make money for fifa and its sponsors.

+1

This is why it really falls somewhere in the middle: not a great "victory" for either camp, and not a strong bellwether for things to come.
 

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Race Radio said:
For years this is the type of "Journalism" that Terry practiced

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and how about....
Benotti69 said:
the SI is not a serious investigative journal. it appears they like bikini's more than anything else....


LOL, you guys are using the SAME LINES some clueless FanBoy would have used if the article had turned out to be damning. LOL again. and again.



Race Radio said:
The SI piece will run, it will just be a watered down version thanks to Terry's lack of backbone and celebrity fetish.

Since the Scoop Guys are ALWAYS wrong, this comment is a bit foreboding for Lance.....maybe it WON'T be a watered down version.

Yikes, maybe NOW is the time for Lance to start freaking out yikes.
 
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Polish said:
LOL, you guys are using the SAME LINES some clueless FanBoy would have used if the article had turned out to be damning. LOL again. and again.

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clueless in the clinic? you cobbeldy, sparty, andypandy0000 and flickie ace that and in spades :D
 
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Nike would not pull advertising on Sports Illustrated over a Lance Armstrong story. And if Lance's people tried to ask THAT favor, Phil Knight would laugh them the hell out of his office.

A) Lance is on the way out. B) While Lance may only play with one ball, Nike plays Football, Basketball, Baseball (and many more).

Nike might have made that call for Micheal Jordan (during his peak) and Tiger Woods (2 years ago), but never for Lance Armstrong.
 
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Polish said:
Good suggestion, and I would add write a letter - NOT e-mail.
Heck, multiple letters would be fine too. Seperate envelopes though.
And double stamp them so they go faster.
Lets flood the offices of SI with SACKS of mail grrrr.

BTW, you can purchase stamps online at http://www.USPS.com
https://shop.usps.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/TopCategoriesDisplay?storeId=10052&catalogId=10001
As always, the USPS appreciates your patronage.

Polish, great stuff. Excellent tie in.
 
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BotanyBay said:
Nike would not pull advertising on Sports Illustrated over a Lance Armstrong story. And if Lance's people tried to ask THAT favor, Phil Knight would laugh them the hell out of his office.

A) Lance is on the way out. B) While Lance may only play with one ball, Nike plays Football, Basketball, Baseball (and many more).

Nike might have made that call for Micheal Jordan (during his peak) and Tiger Woods (2 years ago), but never for Lance Armstrong.

i wouldn't be so sure, cycling is or was a fast growing sport in usa and that growth has to be nurtured to be harvested.

remember LA is the centre of it all. if he spill his beans about everything he could take a lot of big business sponsorship names and their top people down with him.
 
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Looks like some juicy details to me...the Hemassist, bypassing customs, Catlin downplaying high T/E values early in his career, Popo still using Ferrari.
 
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Jagers said:
In the late 1990s, according to a source with knowledge of the government's investigation of Armstrong, the Texan gained access to a drug, in clinical trial, called HemAssist, developed by Baxter Healthcare Corp. HemAssist was to be used for cases of extreme blood loss. In animal studies, it had been shown to boost the blood's oxygen-carrying capacity, without as many risks as EPO. (Armstrong, though his lawyer, denies ever taking HemAssist.)

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• When Italian police and customs officials raided the home of longtime Armstrong teammate Yarolslav Popovych last November, they discovered documents and PEDs as well as texts and e-mails linking Armstrong's team to controversial Italian physician Michele Ferrari as recently as 2009, though Armstrong had said he cut ties with Ferrari in 2004.

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/more/01/18/lance.armstrong/index.html#ixzz1BQW0o4BT

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