The Yates (AKA the TUE Brothers)

[58teeth]

I dunno...watching that replay and the way he just blasts around those guys at the finish, opening a gap even, with a smile on his face showing no discomfort.

 

[ngent41]

How predictable this thread gets a boost today. I am no great fan of Yates but really guys can we lay off until there is some solid evidence rather than just because someone who isn't Spanish or Colombian wins on mountains? His twin brother got 4th in the Tour two years ago so my eyebrows are not particularly raised by what we are seeing.

the fact that hes already had a suspension a few years back, even if it was only for lack of TUE paperwork or whatever surely helps that thread boost.

 

[Benotti69]

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Yates giving it the Lance fist pump.

Come on you can do better than that.

Sorry Zama, the sport doesn't deserve it.

Yates is a doper just like the rest. There are some unicorns in the pro peloton but their silence is deafening.

Watched the Giro today more for the scenery as i lived in Abruzzo not too long ago and rode these roads.

 

[DirtyWorks]

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How predictable this thread gets a boost today. I am no great fan of Yates but really guys can we lay off until there is some solid evidence rather than just because someone who isn't Spanish or Colombian wins on mountains? His twin brother got 4th in the Tour two years ago so my eyebrows are not particularly raised by what we are seeing.

He put in his time. Got trusted. Saw how it worked. It's not a leap too far at that point. Remember, this is the UCI we're talking about. Fixing grand tours by permitting doping is how it works.

I haven't tuned in to racing at all this year. But, it's too early to get a sense of a podium.

 

[Cycle Chic]

and how annnnoyyyying is his voice !!!!
that pseudo spanish accent - he,s from Manchester !!

 

[Pantani Attacks]

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How predictable this thread gets a boost today. I am no great fan of Yates but really guys can we lay off until there is some solid evidence rather than just because someone who isn't Spanish or Colombian wins on mountains? His twin brother got 4th in the Tour two years ago so my eyebrows are not particularly raised by what we are seeing.

The fact his brother got 4th in the Tour should raise your eyebrows to the top of Zoncolan

 

[simoni]

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and how annnnoyyyying is his voice !!!!
that pseudo spanish accent - he,s from Manchester !!

I think its from spending time with too many Australians! My brother got a bit like that when he lived there - we wanted to cut out his tongue after a while.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

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Time will tell,especially how far Yates will go in the Giro - Will add that Yates is in his 5th year whch is when you get an idea how far a rider can go in GC - Now of course if Yates loses less than a minute in the ITT, then eyebrows will be raised.

If Yates loses less than 1 minute in a 33,4km flattish/hilly TT to the world champion ITT who's also an above average climber, than he's suddenly better than Froome himself. I refuse to believe that's possible from a guy who lost 4s a km to Froome a while back.

I think he will drop 2.30/3m in the long TT.

 

[ontheroad]

Mitchelton Scott and in particular Yates, have gone to a new level. Already he seems to be the dominant climber of this Giro and the way he gapped other top climbers over a short distance on Etna just underlined this dominance. He also still looks as fresh as a daisy at the end of the mountain tops. The chances are that he will need at least 2 minutes on Dumoulin before the TT but he has already shown he is capable of riding away from him on a couple of occasions and I would expect that gap to grow further given the strength of his team.

 

[yaco]

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Time will tell,especially how far Yates will go in the Giro - Will add that Yates is in his 5th year whch is when you get an idea how far a rider can go in GC - Now of course if Yates loses less than a minute in the ITT, then eyebrows will be raised.

If Yates loses less than 1 minute in a 33,4km flattish/hilly TT to the world champion ITT who's also an above average climber, than he's suddenly better than Froome himself. I refuse to believe that's possible from a guy who lost 4s a km to Froome a while back.

I think he will drop 2.30/3m in the long TT.

That's exactly my point - I used the minute on the basis of a below average performance from Dumoulin and a top of the race performance from Yates - Expect Yates to lose a bit over 2 minutes - Red flags are raced if the difference is around a minute.

 

[Wiggo's Package]

Yates finished 7th in the Giro prologue

Beat Tony Martin among other TT specialists

Just sayin!

 

[GraftPunk]

Eh, but I think Tony's best day are so far behind him that the comparison may be using a bit of a low bar. Plus with a few weeks in the legs I thin he may fade a bit faster than some of his competitors.

 

[lartiste]

 

[gmedina]

yeah he looked super fresh in his stage win, he was smiling while Pinot and Chavez were grinding their teeth.

 

[glassmoon]

Should've shared his inhaler with Chavito today though...

 

[Serpentin]

Did Simon flush down Chaves BB ?

 

[Screecher]

Unbelievable performance so far in the Giro. I mean i knew Yates was a talent but this?

 

[macbindle]

Maybe, maybe not. But if he wasn't winning stages people would be whining about the lack of panache, and dishonouring the maglia rosa

 

[saganftw]

if he doesnt crush Dumoulin by at least 90 seconds on Zoncolan i will be dissapointed,5 seconds on Formolo? 8 seconds on Geniez? those are rookie numbers...

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

He won't. So far he has only shown he's an impressive Purito.

I've yet to see a sustained effort from further out.

 

[hrotha]

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He won't. So far he has only shown he's an impressive Purito.

I've yet to see a sustained effort from further out.

While I agree that we have yet to see that, he's become a better puncheur than he ever was and his puncheur skills always went hand in hand with his high mountain climbing skills, so it's far from a stretch to assume he will also be stronger than ever in the mountains,

 

[thehog]

Unbelievable performance so far in the Giro. I mean i knew Yates was a talent but this?

He is a talent, don’t surprise me on long grinding climbs due to his weight but riding away from Dumoulin today on a punchy short rise was in the mutant category.

 

[macbindle]

Two seconds? Hardly.

If he'd put 30 seconds into him, than maybe.

 

[The Hegelian]

Yeah, I don't see anything mutant about what Yates is doing. He's always been punchy. Has looked like a GC contender from his first WT race. It's almost a textbook progression.

Certainly in amazing form, and that always begs questions - but "mutant" to me implies "totally unexpected transformation (in either characteristics or quality)"

 

[Netserk]

If he ends in the top-10 of the ITT, it'd (likely) be quite mutant.

I hope he'll lose enough time so that we'll get to see the team blow the race apart on Finestre.