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Teams & Riders Thibaut Pinot discussion thread

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MatParker117 said:
Apparently the Sky rumours were swearling around the Tour presentation along with what I assume would compose his support riders.

I don’t know if I buy the rumors, but going to Sky for two years would be really good for his career.
 
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MatParker117 said:
perico said:
MatParker117 said:
Apparently the Sky rumours were swearling around the Tour presentation along with what I assume would compose his support riders.
Support riders with him? Reichenbach to Sky would cause Kirby to sh#t himself.

I was referring to the rumoured arrival of Amador and the Izagirre brothers.
Absolute nonsense. Even if those transfers were true they wouldn't be his support riders but Froome's.
 
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LaFlorecita said:
Moviefan1203 said:
MatParker117 said:
Apparently the Sky rumours were swearling around the Tour presentation along with what I assume would compose his support riders.
Yes a

I don’t know if I buy the rumors, but going to Sky for two years would be really good for his career.
No, it wouldn't be.

How do? Some time away from being grand tour leader would be good for him. Riding alongside Froome and learning from someone of his caliber would greatly benefit his craft for sure. Sky also has access to facilities and trainers/coaches that would improve his TT. The sports Psychologists on Sky’s payroll would also be of help to Pinot one would think.
 
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Moviefan1203 said:
LaFlorecita said:
Moviefan1203 said:
MatParker117 said:
Apparently the Sky rumours were swearling around the Tour presentation along with what I assume would compose his support riders.
Yes a

I don’t know if I buy the rumors, but going to Sky for two years would be really good for his career.
No, it wouldn't be.

How do? Some time away from being grand tour leader would be good for him. Riding alongside Froome and learning from someone of his caliber would greatly benefit his craft for sure. Sky also has access to facilities and trainers/coaches that would improve his TT. The sports Psychologists on Sky’s payroll would also be of help to Pinot one would think.
As I wrote earlier on this thread, he has the potential, he doesn't have to learn anything but he's frail. The Sky training regime and in-team competition would drain him both physically and mentally. Plus he's at the age where he's going to be peaking soon - don't waste several years in service of someone else.
 
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Moviefan1203 said:
LaFlorecita said:
Moviefan1203 said:
MatParker117 said:
Apparently the Sky rumours were swearling around the Tour presentation along with what I assume would compose his support riders.
Yes a

I don’t know if I buy the rumors, but going to Sky for two years would be really good for his career.
No, it wouldn't be.

How do? Some time away from being grand tour leader would be good for him. Riding alongside Froome and learning from someone of his caliber would greatly benefit his craft for sure. Sky also has access to facilities and trainers/coaches that would improve his TT. The sports Psychologists on Sky’s payroll would also be of help to Pinot one would think.

Yeah two years with Steve Peters, Rod Ellingworth & Tim Kerrison should be a great help in those areas.
 
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LaFlorecita said:
Moviefan1203 said:
LaFlorecita said:
Moviefan1203 said:
MatParker117 said:
Apparently the Sky rumours were swearling around the Tour presentation along with what I assume would compose his support riders.
Yes a

I don’t know if I buy the rumors, but going to Sky for two years would be really good for his career.
No, it wouldn't be.

How do? Some time away from being grand tour leader would be good for him. Riding alongside Froome and learning from someone of his caliber would greatly benefit his craft for sure. Sky also has access to facilities and trainers/coaches that would improve his TT. The sports Psychologists on Sky’s payroll would also be of help to Pinot one would think.
As I wrote earlier on this thread, he has the potential, he doesn't have to learn anything but he's frail. The Sky training regime and in-team competition would drain him both physically and mentally. Plus he's at the age where he's going to be peaking soon - don't waste several years in service of someone else.

I don’t necessarily agree, but thanks for detailing your thoughts. It’s appreciated. :)
 
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MatParker117 said:
Moviefan1203 said:
LaFlorecita said:
Moviefan1203 said:
MatParker117 said:
Apparently the Sky rumours were swearling around the Tour presentation along with what I assume would compose his support riders.
Yes a

I don’t know if I buy the rumors, but going to Sky for two years would be really good for his career.
No, it wouldn't be.

How do? Some time away from being grand tour leader would be good for him. Riding alongside Froome and learning from someone of his caliber would greatly benefit his craft for sure. Sky also has access to facilities and trainers/coaches that would improve his TT. The sports Psychologists on Sky’s payroll would also be of help to Pinot one would think.

Yeah two years with Steve Peters, Rod Ellingworth & Tim Kerrison should be a great help in those areas.
Interesting that you've only become interested in him since he is rumored to be joining sky and suddenly you have his best interests at heart :rolleyes:
 
Tonton said:
Thibaut with Sky? Not on my dead body...I don't know what he will learn from them except...

Good ride today. I'm hoping for a good ending of what is a disappointing season so far.

He will learn to hurt himself more maybe and over train which probably isn't what he needs as he sometimes has some health issues. Tactically Sky are pretty straightforward except for certain pre planned sneak attacks..........I still would prefer to see him change teams and get a fresh approach. The problem is where ? Astana maybe ? Michelton already have three GC riders. BMC might have been good and they might have helped him more with his TT but that's history now.
 
movingtarget said:
Tonton said:
Thibaut with Sky? Not on my dead body...I don't know what he will learn from them except...

Good ride today. I'm hoping for a good ending of what is a disappointing season so far.

He will learn to hurt himself more maybe and over train which probably isn't what he needs as he sometimes has some health issues. Tactically Sky are pretty straightforward except for certain pre planned sneak attacks..........I still would prefer to see him change teams and get a fresh approach. The problem is where ? Astana maybe ? Michelton already have three GC riders. BMC might have been good and they might have helped him more with his TT but that's history now.
Learn to hurt himself more? Where have you been?

Team change as a solution, for me, means the dark side. I'll still ride, but not follow PRR if it happens. Pro-wrestling and the likes? Not for me/
 
Tonton said:
movingtarget said:
Tonton said:
Thibaut with Sky? Not on my dead body...I don't know what he will learn from them except...

Good ride today. I'm hoping for a good ending of what is a disappointing season so far.

He will learn to hurt himself more maybe and over train which probably isn't what he needs as he sometimes has some health issues. Tactically Sky are pretty straightforward except for certain pre planned sneak attacks..........I still would prefer to see him change teams and get a fresh approach. The problem is where ? Astana maybe ? Michelton already have three GC riders. BMC might have been good and they might have helped him more with his TT but that's history now.
Learn to hurt himself more? Where have you been?

Team change as a solution, for me, means the dark side. I'll still ride, but not follow PRR if it happens. Pro-wrestling and the likes? Not for me/

What I mean is the SKY training methods are supposed to be pretty intense, not for everyone. Landa hated it. Not saying Pinot doesn't know how to suffer.
 
Fair enough :) .

The Sky talks are non-sense to me. It's Star Wars material, joining the dark side. I like my Tibopino as the Jedi, even though the force is not always with him :eek: . He was approached by Sky a few years back, wouldn't move to the Nice-Monaco area. He built his house in his hometown, has some fishing ponds, his family nearby, heck he wouldn't settle just 40 km eastward in CH and save a ton in taxes :eek: . Just a simple dude, down to Earth. It may cost him career-wise, but I still believe that he can win a GT if circumstances are right. As long as he gives it all, that's fine by me.

I really hope for a podium at La Vuelta; the Giro ending was brutal. I don't want it to be the highlight (or rather lowlight) of his season.
 
Tonton said:
Fair enough :) .

The Sky talks are non-sense to me. It's Star Wars material, joining the dark side. I like my Tibopino as the Jedi, even though the force is not always with him :eek: . He was approached by Sky a few years back, wouldn't move to the Nice-Monaco area. He built his house in his hometown, has some fishing ponds, his family nearby, heck he wouldn't settle just 40 km eastward in CH and save a ton in taxes :eek: . Just a simple dude, down to Earth. It may cost him career-wise, but I still believe that he can win a GT if circumstances are right. As long as he gives it all, that's fine by me.

I really hope for a podium at La Vuelta; the Giro ending was brutal. I don't want it to be the highlight (or rather lowlight) of his season.

Yeah I think Pinot, Aru, Porte,Yates and Quintana would all like to have a result at the Vuelta. Otherwise the season looks a bit bare. Could be a fun race.
 
memyselfandI said:
Tibopino at the team Sky as a superdomestique/road captain for Froome or Thomas would be excellent position for him as it would take certain type of high pressure off yet keeping certain type of high pressure on. He could learn a lot.
Learn what? How to improve his immune system? What a joke of a post. "certain" of what? Sky has nothing to offer. Marginal gains...thanks but no thanks.