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Teams & Riders Thibaut Pinot discussion thread

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Superb ride. I wonder how this would have played out without the fog as the Yates group probably would have seen him most of the time and someone might have extended his attack a bit to close that gap. Then again MAL also couldn't really close the gap so Pinot was really really strong
 
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movingtarget said:
Cance > TheRest said:
But realistically, how far can he climb in the overall? He's probably not going past any in the top 5, and a top 10 position is not what he came for. With the climbing he's showing, he could easily win a mountain stage from the break, but he's not allowed into any breaks.

That stupid time loss on stage 6 has put Pinot in a very bad spot to be in.

It's often the way with Pinot, it comes down to one bad stage and then you have the TT........be interesting to see how he goes in the next one as this type of TT used to suit him.
He gets sick in GTs as he said at the end of the Giro. He cannot solve this problem himself, This something that the team has to help him with.
Weakness
Sickness in GTs - Team consultation with medical experts
Positioning in stages - Team DS and specific teammates for flats
TT Training for TT heavy GTs - Team Manager, wind tunnels
Considering that most of the weakness are team related and the team manager is Marc Madiot who is still in the 80s, it is unlikely that they will be resolved. Reichenbach is a great supporter in the mountains.
If Sky type support, nutrition and "marginal gains" were available to Pinot, then we would have seen a super Pinot by now.
 
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Koronin said:
Very nice win for Pinot.

Tonton, I know you're thrilled by this.
I just watched the final 13km on Tizcycling for the third straight time :) . It never gets old! Super, super, super happy :) . It would have been so unfair for Tibo to have stage 20 of Il Giro as the Hughlight (lowlight) of his '18 season.

What a day :) !
 
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Tonton said:
Koronin said:
Very nice win for Pinot.

Tonton, I know you're thrilled by this.
I just watched the final 13km on Tizcycling for the third straight time :) . It never gets old! Super, super, super happy :) . It would have been so unfair for Tibo to have stage 20 of Il Giro as the Hughlight (lowlight) of his '18 season.

What a day :) !


I agree. With what happened at the Giro he deserved something for a highlight and I think this qualifies.
 
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lartiste said:
I am happy for him, he deserved the win.

How he can perform in time trial?

His TT's have been abysmal last 1-2 years to be honest. Certainly compared to that 1 year where he(and most of FDJ) did great in TT's... That was also out of nowhere and also dissapeared as fast as it came.

Just 1 year of good TT's. That's still really weird.
 
For a fan, I think Pinot is one of the more human riders. They all, of course, do thing on the bike that are beyond the comprehension of most of us, but with Pinot you really get the full gamut of emotion, the frailties and the bravery, all immediately visible. I’m never sorry to see him win.
 
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Zinoviev Letter said:
For a fan, I think Pinot is one of the more human riders. They all, of course, do thing on the bike that are beyond the comprehension of most of us, but with Pinot you really get the full gamut of emotion, the frailties and the bravery, all immediately visible. I’m never sorry to see him win.
Thisbis exactly what I love about him. Gotta take the good with the heartbreak at times
 
The biggest problem is that TT comes after a rest day. And we all know that he is really bad after a rest days in GTs. If this changes tommorrow, he has a decent chance of getting closer to podium. Mountain stages in the last week are good for him and he should be peaking.