Tim Kerrison

[veganrob]

Kerrisons will invent a rain making machine. Have it imported to Tenerife. Also have the team take the ski lift to the top of the mountain and then practise descending.

Wiggo will fall off the tram

 

[Ripper]

Who will be the first to come up with the sockpuppet WonderWiggo?

I'm still waiting as well. The fanboys are crazy enough, we simply need the humour injection of a wonderwiggo.

 

[The Hitch]

There already was one of those. Went by the name of leon something, but too many people fell for it and he ended up getting banned.

 

[Ripper]

There already was one of those. Went by the name of leon something, but too many people fell for it and he ended up getting banned.

Leon was simply an annoying troll, not of the class of WL.

But you raise a good point. In our current moderation climate, could such a poster as wonderlance even exist long enough to gain traction?

 

[Froome19]

In a race dominated like none other in the history of the sport do you want me to believe a 0.00000000000001% chance that the winner wasn't doping?

Simply not possible. Statistically, mathematically, logically not possible.

Seriously, a 0.00000000000001% chance? What planet are you living on?
Variables have changed drastically and so has the playing field, those numbers can by no means be extrapolated to today's peloton.

 

[the sceptic]

Seriously, a 0.00000000000001% chance? What planet are you living on?
Variables have changed drastically and so has the playing field, those numbers can by no means be extrapolated to today's peloton.

What has changed since say, 2008? other than JV and sky talking up how clean everything is what has really changed?

 

[Ferminal]

Contador and Valverde got busted, on return they wouldn't dope due to risk of permanent ban. Subsequently no one else has to dope to win.

 

[DirtyWorks]

Seriously, a 0.00000000000001% chance? What planet are you living on?
Variables have changed drastically and so has the playing field, those numbers can by no means be extrapolated to today's peloton.

What variables have changed?

We know nothing has changed at the UCI. As recent as 2010 or so, the UCI was suppressing red-hot positives.
We know the bio-passport is being used as a tool to commit sports fraud.
We know cyclists are RAIL thin with all the power they ever had at a higher, natural body weight thanks to peptides.
Cycling's leadership hasn't changed from the Armstrong dope-enablers.

What's changed?

 

[blackcat]

and fans from the uk are ignorant. that is what has changed. out usa, in uk.

 

[Bexon30]

and fans from the uk are ignorant. that is what has changed. out usa, in uk.

That's slightly unfair as there is a core of cycling fans that knows their apples and they are pre Sky pre BC. I got hooked in the early 90's due to I believe channel 4. But I do get your point there is a lot of new Wiggo fans etc that have no idea and believe the guff Kerrison and DB lay out. For me living in England was the surprise by the non existent media coverage of Geert and his time at Sky. As for the 'perceived to be clean' that's just a joke. From talking to new fans some dont think it's strange to see rider transformation. As for last year there will always be a black cloud over TK and marginal gains because of the clear out afterwards.

 

[blackcat]

if one is not doping, you have no reason to prove the negative.

if one is attempting to prove the negative they are either of three things
i) fools
ii) liers attempting to fool
iii) fools and liers attempting to fool

 

[BroDeal]

Who will be the first to come up with the sockpuppet WonderWiggo?

It will be SirWonderWiggo.

 

[Fortyninefourteen]

Kerrisons will invent a rain making machine. Have it imported to Tenerife. Also have the team take the ski lift to the top of the mountain and then practise descending.

Tenerife is quickly becoming the Disneyland of Cycling....where the impossible is made possible!

 

[blackcat]

Tenerife is quickly becoming the Disneyland of Cycling....where the impossible is made possible!

well, millar first won at EuroDisney.

 

[42x16ss]

Seriously, a 0.00000000000001% chance? What planet are you living on?
Variables have changed drastically and so has the playing field, those numbers can by no means be extrapolated to today's peloton.

What planet? Planet Earth as far as most of us can tell. Look back over the history of Grand Tours. Noone, NOONE since La Vie Claire in the mid 80's has dominated a race as a team like Sky at the Tour last year without someone eventually being busted or very strong coincidental evidence.

USPS, Mapei, Festina, Cofidis, Gerolsteiner, Rabobank, Saunier Duval, Banesto the list goes on.

Yes, it looks like clean (or very close to it) riders can be genuuinely competitive again in the 1 week races and classics if they are raced suitably as well as picking up stage wins in GT's but they still won't be able to dominate a GT from start to finish like Sky did last year.

 

[biopass]

Any one knows which coaching certificates Tim Kerrison holds?

 

[blackcat]

Any one knows which coaching certificates Tim Kerrison holds?

grad Dip from a Weeties breakfast of Champions box.

 

[Benotti69]

grad Dip from a Weeties breakfast of Champions box.

are you sure? I thought he won a nutella competition......

 

[blackcat]

are you sure? I thought he won a nutella competition......

could be right on that. I tend to plagiarise

 

[42x16ss]

could be right on that. I tend to plagiarise

He has a Sports Science degree from UQ IIRC. It's very hard to find anything on his quals.

Kerrison was originally a rowing coach, so that's probably where his official coaching quals come from.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

Not only did Sky's marginal gains allow them to dominate stage racing for a couple of years, but they were so good at it, that

Kerrison believes that it is too early to draw any conclusions from this year’s Tour but Sky’s dominance in stage races has been put to the sword. The marginal gains approach that led to success upon success has been replicated, tweaked and improved.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/kerrison-sky-and-froome-focus-on-winning-tour-de-france-in-2015

Wait what!?

So let me get this straight.

Sky were the only team doing marginal gains, no other team did anything.

Sky can dominate because of this.

Sky dominate, and not only do the other teams replicate those secret, undocumented marginal gains, but then tweak and improve them. Having never done anything like it before.



Wait, what?!

 

[Dear Wiggo]

Improved pineapple juice.
Improved pillows.
Improved warm downs.

From clinic forum member X: improved drafting.
From clinic forum member Y: improved tactics.
From clinic forum member Z: improved uphill cadence.

Hmmm what else?

 

[the sceptic]

Not only did Sky's marginal gains allow them to dominate stage racing for a couple of years, but they were so good at it, that



Wait what!?

So let me get this straight.

Sky were the only team doing marginal gains, no other team did anything.

Sky can dominate because of this.

Sky dominate, and not only do the other teams replicate those secret, undocumented marginal gains, but then tweak and improve them. Having never done anything like it before.



Wait, what?!

Food for the bots. They need an explanation as to how marginal gains have become worthless.

Just put in "doping" instead of "marginal gains" and it makes sense.

 

[BroDeal]

Sky dominate, and not only do the other teams replicate those secret, undocumented marginal gains, but then tweak and improve them. Having never done anything like it before.



Wait, what?!

It is pretty simple. Other teams have their own version of Tim Kerrison but those teams' riders send in their full power files to be analyzed instead of just the data for the warmup part of the workout. The riders probably meet and talk with their team's version of Tim Kerrison as well. And the teams have professional nutritionists instead of the riders' wives planning the riders' diets. Lots of room for improvements.

My sources tell me that Brailsford has been on the phone with Paul Mccartney asking for advice about how to handle Team Sky's Yoko. Yoko Cound, she broke up the team.

 

[Granville57]

Not only did Sky's marginal gains allow them to dominate stage racing for a couple of years, but they were so good at it, that

The marginal gains approach that led to success upon success has been replicated, tweaked and improved.

The funniest part about that quote, is that it doesn't appear to be a Kerrison quote, rather just some creative interpretation on the part of Dan Benson.

Does Benson believe that?
Is he trying to sell that?
Or did Kerrison say or imply that, but for some reason isn't directly quoted?


And further...
What is that quote really trying convey?
That Team Sky has been out-marginally-gained by other teams, and that is the reason for their downfall this year?

Staying upright on the bike=Marginal Gain.


Not to mention that fact that since both Porte and Froome ignore Kerrison's training "advice" and do their own thing anyway (while deliberately deceiving Kerrison/Brailsford so that it appears they are following that advice), just what the hell is Kerrison going to do that will have a more favorable outcome in terms of performance for the team's two favorite riders?