Tinkov - no doping exists in cycling

[MarkvW]

Technically Tinkov is correct, you're not doping if you don't get caught, thus his ethics cannot be faulted.

And, technically, you're not cheating if you don't get caught? And your ethics cannot be faulted if you don't get caught?

In the world of professional cycling, the answer to both questions is a resounding YES!!!

 

[42x16ss]

Technically Tinkov is correct, you're not doping if you don't get caught, thus his ethics cannot be faulted.

It's good enough for Brailsford

 

[LaFlorecita]

Oh my lord

 

[ultimobici]

Don't most people who get rich do so by acting like a tool?

Not necessarily.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/b...t-hes-planning-their-inheritance-8952760.html

 

[Clausfarre]

Oleg is just comic relief. This statement is just another little gem. I started following him on Twitter because it was just filled with ridiculous goodies, not at least attacking Bjarne and the team itself for poor performances.

Now he can do what he feels is necessary to get the results he demands. It will be entertaining, I'm sure.

 

[Granville57]

I relish reading the accusations of the island dwellers when their imported winner gets beat at his own game.

Wait. You mean these people?

And this guy?

And this game?

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

What have you got against Russians?

Vino isn't Russian. He's Kazakh.

 

[darwin553]

It's pretty clear: Tinkoff just wants to put his head in the sand about doping issues that surround the sport and instead just wants to taste the champagne as a team owner.

 

[jyhjyh]

How Tinkov got rich

How did Tinkov ever get the ability to get that rich? He seems like a complete tool.

I guess even people like him could get tons of cash and assets in the post Soviet collapse plundering of state assets.

Tinkov is no Oligarch (or tool)
http://inrng.com/2013/12/tinkov-team-profile/#more-17753

 

[webbie146]

I really want to see Contador beat Froome and Tinkov to become a master troll and say its normal for clean riders to do 6.6w/kg on Hautacam.

One can hope..

ahahahha omg cycling is awesome

 

[veganrob]

And, technically, you're not cheating if you don't get caught? And your ethics cannot be faulted if you don't get caught?

In the world of professional cycling, the answer to both questions is a resounding YES!!!

Ah, and don't forget "if you aren't cheating you aren't trying to win".

 

[Stingray34]

God is dead - Nietzsche

Nietzsche is dead - God

Doping is dead - Tinkov

Tinkov is dead - Doping

 

[Briant_Gumble]

Tinkov is no Oligarch (or tool)
http://inrng.com/2013/12/tinkov-team-profile/#more-17753

So he got started out buying and selling stuff? No particular expertise in any area. I see no reason to believe he didn't rip off a lot of people to get where he is like most people that rich. However, he might just have got lucky and worked long days but like a successful doper in cycling I would guess he worked really hard AND did unethical things.

From what I know Bill Gates is a businessman that I can celebrate, Harvard level maths, thousands of hours spent on a computer meant he could accurately predict the changes in the market in the forthcoming personal computer revolution.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CsGihiSE6sM

 

[Briant_Gumble]

Ah, and don't forget "if you aren't cheating you aren't trying to win".

Lol, that should be the team motto.

 

[Ferminal]

So he got started out buying and selling stuff? No particular expertise in any area. I see no reason to believe he didn't rip off a lot of people to get where he is like most people that rich. However, he might just have got lucky and worked long days but like a successful doper in cycling I would guess he worked really hard AND did unethical things.

Just your typical fraudster.

http://www.bne.eu/story5445

 

[Coolair2970]

How did Tinkov ever get the ability to get that rich? He seems like a complete tool.

I guess even people like him could get tons of cash and assets in the post Soviet collapse plundering of state assets.

Not all people act like other people expect them to do. Back in the 70's and 80's we had a totally crazy guy that own the largest charter travel agency inthe world.

He had a bunch of young ladies serving him breakfast naked and he had a orgie publicly in Tivoli once.

He made things that make Tinkov look like a preacher and he still was worth more than a billion.

Behind all the crazy things there was a very clever guy with a razor sharp brain.

Don't get it wrong Tinkov is a very smart businessman and I think he really belives what he says. He actually earned all his money from buying and selling, not from stealing oil from some russian provins.

 

[DirtyWorks]

From what I know Bill Gates is a businessman that I can celebrate, Harvard level maths, thousands of hours spent on a computer meant he could accurately predict the changes in the market in the forthcoming personal computer revolution.

Ohhh no.

He used Mum and Dad's considerable fortunes as leverage and then used the gaps in intellectual property regulations to enter the market. Once in, really was an 80's robber barron determined to fix the market for computing products and services. And later fixed those holes in intellectual property regulation to limit competition.

He uses his foundation to enforce and extend the American intellectual property rights model oh, and do some other stuff they like to talk quite a bit about. Really, it's a much more well done version of Livestrong profit/charity scam.

He's actually, a perfect billionaire cycling-team-as-a-hobby personality. Doping and buying race podiums from the UCI/ASO would be no problem.

 

[Briant_Gumble]

Ohhh no.

He used Mum and Dad's considerable fortunes as leverage and then used the gaps in intellectual property regulations to enter the market. Once in, really was an 80's robber barron determined to fix the market for computing products and services. And later fixed those holes in intellectual property regulation to limit competition and uses his foundation to capture intellectual property rights worldwide on his way to creating a two social class planet.

He's actually, a perfect billionaire cycling-team-as-a-hobby personality. Doping and buying race podiums from the UCI/ASO would be no problem.

What do you mean by creating a two social class planet?

 

[martinvickers]

Vino isn't Russian. He's Kazakh.

Worse still! Are no Slavs safe from innuendo?

(PS joking aside, for some reason I had it in my head vino was a dual national. Is that just my premature senility catching me?)

 

[MarkvW]

Wasn't Genghis Khan an Innuendo?

 

[DirtyWorks]

What do you mean by creating a two social class planet?

PM'd you.

25 characters

 

[Almeisan]

Tinkov is the Russian Ralph Nader? Didn't know that.

My bad, lol.

 

[DirtyWorks]

Vino isn't Russian. He's Kazakh.

Better still!!!

For Yanks it's JV vs Tinkov.
For Brits it's Brailsford vs Tinkov.

The Astana "bad guy" didn't really work out and Katousha... well, the cold war ended and the Yanks won.

Americans with their horrible geography can generate all kinds of ridiculous suspicions for themselves.

Looking forward to the WWE-style show with Sky dominating stage racing for six solid months and Contador rediscovering his former performance about June, 2014.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

From what I know Bill Gates is a businessman that I can celebrate, Harvard level maths, thousands of hours spent on a computer meant he could accurately predict the changes in the market in the forthcoming personal computer revolution.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CsGihiSE6sM

Uh no. BG was lucky, and at the right time, using someone else's software, in the right place. Harvard level maths? Puhlease. BG is like Tinkov in a way - good sales person.

Like Dave Brailsford.

Except Tinkov has sold things, whereas DB sells ideas and theories. Not sure they could switch places, although Jv has done remarkably well turning real estate sales into DB-style idea and theory sales.

 

[The Hitch]

Brailsford a good salesman? of what.