Tired of Cavendish

[Anonymous]

Get over it man. He had every right to feel ****ed. Sure he shouldn't have made the gesture but the media and public shouldn't have been so quick to dismiss him because he had a bad start to the season. Move on

That's fine but when the man-child throws a fit and makes the F U gesture for all to see don't get upset when it turns people off.

He's colorful, no doubt... but this kind of stuff is way over the top.

 

[woodie]

That's fine but when the man-child throws a fit and makes the F U gesture for all to see don't get upset when it turns people off.

He's colorful, no doubt... but this kind of stuff is way over the top.

Yeah, I agree it was over the top, it was stupid and he shouldn't have done it. He was wrong. I just get sick and tired of people slamming him because he shows some emotion and made a mistake. Yeah he does some stupid stuff but who doesn't?

I just think people need to get over their hate of cyclists and enjoy it for what it is. There's always going to be people doing stupid stuff get used to it.

BTW this isn't directed at anyone in particular just a general statement.

 

[Anonymous]

Yeah, I agree it was over the top, it was stupid and he shouldn't have done it. He was wrong. I just get sick and tired of people slamming him because he shows some emotion and made a mistake. Yeah he does some stupid stuff but who doesn't?

I just think people need to get over their hate of cyclists and enjoy it for what it is. There's always going to be people doing stupid stuff get used to it.

BTW this isn't directed at anyone in particular just a general statement.

Fair enough.

For the record, being critical of Cav does not necessarily translate to hating him.

 

[woodie]

Fair enough.

For the record, being critical of Cav does not necessarily translate to hating him.

Fair point.

 

[Orinda8]

Shouldn't those who criticize Cav re-consider,at least a little, after the article today in CyclingNews about his trip to India where he drove the team car himself when he was not racing, and even wiped the back of a team member who was warming up? Cav may have rough edges but would Pharmstrong ever do any of this?

 

[Dewulf]

Personality in the peloton!!!! God forbid!

we can't have guys being good and actually realising that they are good. Next thing you know they will be telling people that they will win races and trying to psych other riders out. No, what we want is for them to be self effacing, humble, and not speak unless spoken to. That way they will be acceptable in the eyes of forum posters who always wanted to be bike racers of note but were somehow never good enough. The guys who were always coming in 10-15 minutes after the winner. Who had to stand and watch while others got the glory...

This really is what the majority of these hate threads boil down to.
It's the same thing in life, people who are happy with who they are and/or what they've achieved in life rarely feel the need to put others down.

Hit the nail on the head there. Sad really.

Sure, just maybe someone fully 'hating' could fit that mould.

On the other side of the fence, you've got people who don't have a leg to stand on in the debate, so instead of talking about the issue, they attack the character of the person they're arguing against. Sad, really, but all too common, as the above 3 posts show.

And not going to bother saying anything bout Cav since it's all been said already. Cheers.

 

[usedtobefast]

i admit i kinda liked him early, then his less than sporting gestures in races
really turned me off. with all of that though, he always thanks his team,bigtime.
and he seems sincere about it. he is young and headstrong for sure. like i said before,bunny hopping the stage finish in the Vuelta for me, was telling. it just says," i love riding and racing my bike." seriously, who thinks, at a grand tour,for crying out loud,"when i win this stage, i am going to bunny hop the finish line."? no body ever. it just screams pure joy, and i understand that.
riding a bike can be that much fun.

 

[Hawkwood]

i admit i kinda liked him early, then his less than sporting gestures in races
really turned me off. with all of that though, he always thanks his team,bigtime.
and he seems sincere about it. he is young and headstrong for sure. like i said before,bunny hopping the stage finish in the Vuelta for me, was telling. it just says," i love riding and racing my bike." seriously, who thinks, at a grand tour,for crying out loud,"when i win this stage, i am going to bunny hop the finish line."? no body ever. it just screams pure joy, and i understand that.
riding a bike can be that much fun.

I saw a clip of him winning a motor-paced event at the Ghent Six Day, he put on a good show and the crowd loved him. I thought he doesn't need to be doing this stuff, okay so motor-paced is safer than it used to be, but it's still dangerous.

 

[L'arriviste]

I saw a clip of him winning a motor-paced event at the Ghent Six Day, he put on a good show and the crowd loved him. I thought he doesn't need to be doing this stuff, okay so motor-paced is safer than it used to be, but it's still dangerous.

I was at the Gent Six last year (or was it 2008? tempus fugit and all that) and the derny's not really as scary as it looks.

Partly because it's all just icredible fun, cheesy 4:4 music and lots of showing off.

Mostly it's because of those jolly motards in bright yellow Cécémel jerseys, bib tights and a massive paunch full of mossel-friet, stoofvlees and Palm.

 

[Hawkwood]

I was at the Gent Six last year (or was it 2008? tempus fugit and all that) and the derny's not really as scary as it looks.

Partly because it's all just icredible fun, cheesy 4:4 music and lots of showing off.

Mostly it's because of those jolly motards in bright yellow Cécémel jerseys, bib tights and a massive paunch full of mossel-friet, stoofvlees and Palm.

Mates of mine in Liverpool have been to the Ghent Six on numerous occasions, but I'm in Kent and haven't. I really must pull my finger out and come over for a long weekend. I have been to that big bike shop in Aalst a few times, impressive!

 

[L'arriviste]

Mates of mine in Liverpool have been to the Ghent Six on numerous occasions, but I'm in Kent and haven't. I really must pull my finger out and come over for a long weekend. I have been to that big bike shop in Aalst a few times, impressive!

This will be OT, but nobody will mind me continuing. It's a silly thread anyway.

Van Eyck Sport, was it? Haven't been myself yet (I've just come back to cycling this season for the first time in 15 years and I don't have a bike as yet, but I'm thinking about one for next year).

Being from Kent, you really have no excuse. Obviously, there's the fact that it's only two hours on the Eurostar to BXL, but a lot of people don't realise that the same ticket will cover your change of train onto the domestic line to Gent because the deal is "Any Belgian Station".

Wrap up warm though, the wind from the Scheldt is evil and when I was there for the Six it had been snowing heavily! Here in Belgium, it's usually about +2 degrees on the UK, but the Scheldt counts for a lot in terms of wind chill.

 

[Hawkwood]

This will be OT, but nobody will mind me continuing. It's a silly thread anyway.

Van Eyck Sport, was it? Haven't been myself yet (I've just come back to cycling this season for the first time in 15 years and I don't have a bike as yet, but I'm thinking about one for next year).

Being from Kent, you really have no excuse. Obviously, there's the fact that it's only two hours on the Eurostar to BXL, but a lot of people don't realise that the same ticket will cover your change of train onto the domestic line to Gent because the deal is "Any Belgian Station".

Wrap up warm though, the wind from the Scheldt is evil and when I was there for the Six it had been snowing heavily! Here in Belgium, it's usually about +2 degrees on the UK, but the Scheldt counts for a lot in terms of wind chill.

First the on-topic bit, I think it's good that `stars' such as Cavendish are still supporting Sixes (obviously the money helps!), the latter are an important part of cycling heritage in my opinion.

I've been to Belgium on a number of occasions and have enjoyed the food, the beer and meeting such friendly people. Ghent is only about a 2.5 hr drive from Calais. Yes it was Van Eyck. The first time I went was around 1998, the manager helped me select a new frame and other gear, and then told me to ignore the price tags as `we can do much better than that'!

 

[L'arriviste]

...Yes it was Van Eyck. The first time I went was around 1998, the manager helped me select a new frame and other gear, and then told me to ignore the price tags as `we can do much better than that'!

Thanks! I'll bear that in mind when I decide to get my bike then

 

[clotho2]

Mark is young, but not that young. The thing is athletes have this thing about being effusive after they score or win. American football has elected to fine its players for being too effusive in their victory display, but I think it's more for safety.

You should have seen me when Mark crossed that finish line first each time. I really don't blame him for his reaction. Especially if he is a clean cyclist.

Look at how Tiger Woods has managed to bring the galleries to life in golf with a simply fist pump. heck when you get something right you're proud. Why not pop a wheelie or whatever. Any Cycling event that comes down to a sprint and Mark "The Manx Missile" Cavendish is in it
is cause for super excitement. Say what you will about the man, but he is the best at sprinting.

 

[Arnout]

http://beta.uitzendinggemist.nl/afleveringen/992009

Nice interview with Cavendish in the first 19 minutes. Good for your Dutch as well (subtitles, interview is in English, as we don't like voice overs in the Netherlands)

 

[Andy99]

So, who's going to see cav on the big screen?

http://chasinglegends.com/index.html

 

[Jamsque]

Huh, that looks averagely interesting. There's a showing just down the road from me tomorrow but I don't know if I'm willing to shell out £14 and cancel my plans just to listen to Phil Ligget dodge questions about doping. I'll wait till it hits cyclingtorrents...

 

[Boardslide]

So, who's going to see cav on the big screen?

http://chasinglegends.com/index.html

I must admit I've got tickets for the O2, I've already got the DVD set and thought it'd be nice to see it on the big screen and also the Q&A afterwards with Bernie Eisel, Rolf Aldag, & Brian Holm might be interesting. Apparentley the original list of venues were sold out so they had to include quite a few extra.

 

[Boardslide]

http://beta.uitzendinggemist.nl/afleveringen/992009

Nice interview with Cavendish in the first 19 minutes. Good for your Dutch as well (subtitles, interview is in English, as we don't like voice overs in the Netherlands)

Arnout as you say nice interveiw but at the end did he beat the track record of Bos or not?

 

[avanti]

Mark Cavendish quotes:

I’m committed to a contract I signed a few years ago, [but] there’s been no goodwill, no bonuses, nothing. I feel kind of abused for what I’ve achieved.”

I’m just frustrated because I’ve been massively underpaid this year and next because for some reason we can’t get more sponsors,” Cavendish told Britain’s Observer newspaper following the Commonwealth Games

Source: http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/theres-something-about-marky

Maybe Mark should get a new personal agent – top cyclists get their big money from sponsors, advertising, riding for pay in crits and 6-days, and giving speeches. (This from two pro cyclists I know)

 

[The Hitch]

Maybe Mark should get a new personal agent – top cyclists get their big money from sponsors, advertising,

All ive seen of this is Pozzato going commando to advertise Sidi cycling shoes, Contador acting gangster for a saddle, and Tyler Farrar transitions lenses, which cant be to great if they make him introduce himself before every advert, and just play it non stop for a year.


Dont see any big money in either of these.

 

[usedtobefast]

All ive seen of this is Pozzato going commando to advertise Sidi cycling shoes, Contador acting gangster for a saddle, and Tyler Farrar transitions lenses, which cant be to great if they make him introduce himself before every advert, and just play it non stop for a year.


Dont see any big money in either of these.

yeah none of that will put your kids through school. small change. you'll take it for sure, but nothing major.