Tirreno - Adriatico 2021, March 10 - March 16

[Ricco']

I don't play Fortnite or any of these recents videogames, but can it be related to that? It seemed like a pose some of that videogames style might have, from the short clips I see sometimes.

 

[dutchdescent]

I wonder how his celebration will go down on social media. When Evenepoel dusted off his shoulder it nearly resulted in WWIII and it took extensive international lobbying for all nuclear powers to stand down. This celebration is not that different, also saying "too easy", "i'm the best", "not breaking a sweat"... But something tells me this time Twitter and Wielerflits will not explode for some reason.

he didn't dust off his shoulders now, did he?

 

[Publiuszam]

Imagine that Sagan was in form? It would be 30-50% of the stages to these fellows!

Exactly..the others have not been in the radar so far...it is getting silly

 

[dutchdescent]

I have always thought that Sagan is arrogant

Touché

 

[Winnen]

I wonder how his celebration will go down on social media. When Evenepoel dusted off his shoulder it nearly resulted in WWIII and it took extensive international lobbying for all nuclear powers to stand down. This celebration is not that different, also saying "too easy", "i'm the best", "not breaking a sweat"... But something tells me this time Twitter and Wielerflits will not explode for some reason.

My advice would be to stop reading the comments at Wielerflits..... I like to read comments from actual cycling enthusiasts and on Wielerflits there is a lot of fanboyism. So I stick to this forum.

 

[johnymax]

Hmm...If he lets MvdP chase, maybe he secures a win and 10 boni seconds or at the worst he comes in second behind Stybar and again secures 6 boni seconds like he actually did in real life. There's also a nightmare scenario, where he would let MvdP chase, but Mathieu wouldn't chase and than beat him in a sprint for second so he gains only 4 boni seconds. But I don't think the latter scenario is realistic and belongs more in the "Slight miss from me. Move along." thread.

To add to that.

To be frank, it's a difficult decision he had to make in a fraction of a second so I'm not criticising him. It's just an observation and my point of view.

 

[dutchdescent]

And they were seen as such by a lot of forum users.

Fair enough. I enjoyed them though. If you're that good and have the time then you might as well make something out of your celebration. That 'Jesus' pose many do is just boring IMHO..

 

[Cinemaniak]

I know he said he doesn't want to waste energy this T-A, but I seriously want to see MvdP try to go full gas on the Prati di Tivo. He's not a climber, but with his power he won't be far from the likes of Bernal, Pogacar..

 

[Fernandez]

To add to that.

To be frank, it's a difficult decision he had to make in a fraction of a second so I'm not criticising him. It's just an observation and my point of view.

I think he chased because he was in the position to chase. Like at the moment it was his job to chase Stybar.

 

[jaylew]

I wonder how his celebration will go down on social media. When Evenepoel dusted off his shoulder it nearly resulted in WWIII and it took extensive international lobbying for all nuclear powers to stand down. This celebration is not that different, also saying "too easy", "i'm the best", "not breaking a sweat"... But something tells me this time Twitter and Wielerflits will not explode for some reason.

I think a lot of that was because of his age. Some prefer precocious types be a bit more humble towards their elders.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

he didn't dust off his shoulders now, did he?

No, he crossed his arms and gazed at the sky as if he wasn't really trying. Which, to be frank, may even be true. It's simply an observation, i have no issue with his celebration, nor did i have an issue with that of Evenepoel.

 

[jmdirt]

These two are just beasts!

 

[tobydawq]

MvDP can thanks Van Aert. Without his help he wouldnt win.

Sagan bad legs or was holded by fall? I think I saw him unharmed but involved in it.

He was involved but also has very bad legs.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Hmm...If he lets MvdP chase, maybe he secures a win and 10 boni seconds or at the worst he comes in second behind Stybar and again secures 6 boni seconds like he actually did in real life. There's also a nightmare scenario, where he would let MvdP chase, but Mathieu wouldn't chase and than beat him in a sprint for second so he gains only 4 boni seconds. But I don't think the latter scenario is realistic and belongs more in the "Slight miss from me. Move along." thread.

He doesn't have to take boniseconds on van der Poel, he has to take them on Bernal, Bardet, Pogacar.
If he chases Stybar, he knows on that finish he will still take 4 seconds most likely, in case he gets beaten by van der Poel and Alaphilippe. If he lets Stybar go, and he loses the sprint of van der Poel and Alaphilippe, he takes 0 seconds on Pogacar & Bernal. He chose to ride for his GC and not for stagewin.

 

[red_flanders]

That was arrogant

Gets criticized for being too stoic, criticized for being too exuberant, now he's arrogant.

I hear what you're saying but part of me thinks road biking fans just seem to have a problem with dominant riders.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

I don't play Fortnite or any of these recents videogames, but can it be related to that? It seemed like a pose some of that videogames style might have, from the short clips I see sometimes.

I have no idea, i know van der Poel was addicted to playing Fortnite, but i have no idea if that had anything to do with it. Evenepoel has always been a Michael Jackson fan, and claims his dusting off the shoulder move, was taken from a Michael Jackson choreography.

 

[SafeBet]

Fair enough. I enjoyed them though. If you're that good and have the time then you might as well make something out of your celebration. That 'Jesus' pose many do is just boring IMHO..

To be clear, the only celebrations I've criticized in my life are the early ones.
I have zero problems with riders pointing guns, showing fins, dusting stuff off their shoulders, getting off their bikes, silencing the crowd or whatever they come up with.
Some variety can't be bad for cycling.


Re Bernal: apparently he lost 18 seconds and is now 38 seconds behind WVA in GC.

 

[tobydawq]

And they were seen as such by a lot of forum users.

Just to be sure, "all" means the 3 out of 114 wins he got in the 2012 Tour?

 

[jaylew]

He doesn't have to take boniseconds on van der Poel, he has to take them on Bernal, Bardet, Pogacar.
If he chases Stybar, he knows on that finish he will still take 4 seconds most likely, in case he gets beaten by van der Poel and Alaphilippe. If he lets Stybar go, and he loses the sprint of van der Poel and Alaphilippe, he takes 0 seconds on Pogacar & Bernal. He chose to ride for his GC and not for stagewin.

I don't think it was that calculated, I just think in the heat of battle, he saw what DQ was doing, was in the right position, and instinctively went for it. In any case, I think he was fairly confident in getting bonus seconds no matter what from that point. Now, what he says after time to absorb the stage could be completely different.

A shame we were robbed of another true 1x1, in any case.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

I don't think it was that calculated, I just think in the heat of battle, he saw what DQ was doing ,was in the right position, and instinctively went for it. In any case, I think he was fairly confident in getting bonus seconds no matter what from that point. Now, what he says after time to absorb the stage could be completely different.

I think it was very calculated, he knew van der Poel was in his wheel, he even looked back before he started to close the gap.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1370404527329927168

View: https://twitter.com/laflammerouge16/status/1370404527329927168


this was the reason

 

[Boes]

I know he said he doesn't want to waste energy this T-A, but I seriously want to see MvdP try to go full gas on the Prati di Tivo. He's not a climber, but with his power he won't be far from the likes of Bernal, Pogacar..

For the life of me, I can't imagine he'll let it go in the mountain stage.
I remember him saying he'd do LBL or Il lombardia 'just for the experience', yet both times he went 100% om the climbs for the result.

I'm not saying he'll be close with Pogacar or Bernal, but he'll sure as hell try to hold on their wheels for life.

Tbh, I never understood why WVA said out loud he'd be going for GC. There's a huge difference between going for GC and publically announcing it. My guess is MVP is just as curious in his GC abilities as WVA, after all, he is Poulidoir's grandson...

 

[jaylew]

I think it was very calculated, he knew van der Poel was in his wheel, he even looked back before he started to close the gap.

He didn't look back until he was already committed. I certainly don't think he was doing all that mental math you described.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

I think it was very calculated, he knew van der Poel was in his wheel, he even looked back before he started to close the gap.

yeah same, he made the choice to go for GC in that instant.

Kinda think of it. WVA really is the perfect leadout for VDP. But unfortunately for VDP it's not gonna be like that most of the time lol

 

[jaylew]

He was involved but also has very bad legs.

A real shame that for the 2nd year in a row, we're unlikely to see him in the mix in the classics. I don't know, maybe he can get his form back in time for Roubaix but I have my doubts. Getting Covid really set hum back.