Tirreno - Adriatico 2021, March 10 - March 16

[BlueRoads]

You're still sure you don't have any fetishes?

I...ehm... how tall was that Álvaro doll?

Well, I don't have any, but then I was told people who do would always say that.

 

[Eeslliw]

Wout's tt'ing still underrated by some I see...

Did you forget TDF2020 TT? Pogacar put almost 1 minute and half on Wout. Van Aert is top TT but not Ganna. I think Wout and Tadej will be close, maybe short course is more to liking of mr. bunch sprinter.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

I...ehm... how tall was that Álvaro doll?

Well, I don't have any, but then I was told people who do would always say that.

It was 1.86m tall, so pretty lifelike.

I too don't have any fetishes and I dont know anything about Pornhub either. I'm more of a Redtube man (that is the London Underground for communists, right?).

 

[Samu Cuenca]

On a different topic:

I don't think Pogacar is going to beat van Aert on the San Benedetto del Tronto course. The time difference will probably not be huge, but van aert is definitely the favourite for me. But of course you should never discount Pogacar.

 

[topt]

Wout's tt'ing still underrated by some I see...

its more like Pogacar TTing is still underrated by some

 

[Cinemaniak]

MvdP seems to be extra motivated for this one.

Stage 1: Van Aert
Stage 2: Alaphilippe
Stage 3: Van der Poel

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Also, in the lost sprint yesterday, VDP said "Ik duwde twintig seconden lang 1200 watt "

so 20s 1200w.

 

[tobydawq]

Also, in the lost sprint yesterday, VDP said "Ik duwde twintig seconden lang 1200 watt "

so 20s 1200w.

Nothing my microwave oven can't do.

 

[Publiuszam]

Come on, Davide.

 

[Wvv]

Watch those expressions

Looking forward to the next battle.

 

[BlueRoads]

Van der Poel, Alaphilippe, Pogacar, van Aert and Bernal will get away together on the poggio.

 

[Publiuszam]

This already feels like pornhub. A lot of orgasms that van der Poel initiates. Guys, tune it down a bit, will you? The neighbours couldn't sleep.

My last holiday, I went to Johor in Malaysia, and I thought I heard a local telling me about pornhub restaurant, and I thought that was a cool name for a joint..so there I went to have a looksy at their cheapest beer but it turns out that the name of the restaurant was prawn hub.

Watch those expressions

Looking forward to the next battle.

Is this pornstache?

 

[pink_jersey]

Van der Poel, Alaphilippe, Pogacar, van Aert and Bernal will get away together on the poggio.

I don't think Bernal and Pogi will ride it.

I think Van der Poel and Alaphilippe will get away on the Poggio and battle it out at the finish.

 

[BlueRoads]

I don't think Bernal and Pogi will ride it.

I think Van der Poel and Alaphilippe will get away on the Poggio and battle it out at the finish.

"man against man, blood against blood, skills against skills"?
But then there will be too many teams left to chase. And Bernal is quite the attacking poggiolist these days.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

why ? if we are going by last TT Pogacar beat VVA on the flat

Maybe because van Aert was more tired, after three weeks of doing sprints and domestique work?
Maybe because van Aert is not a pure climber and saved energy on the flat to have some reserves on the climb?
Maybe because van Aert, as i already stated, always starts slow on longer ITT's in order to finish fast?
Maybe because Pogacar rode the ITT of his life that day?

This is all possible. Furthermore, both ITT's are not only completely different in style, but also in length.
Since then Pogacar has been beaten by a guy (Bjerg) who got beaten severely by van Aert on the WCC.
It simply doesn't work that way.

Did you forget TDF2020 TT? Pogacar put almost 1 minute and half on Wout. Van Aert is top TT but not Ganna. I think Wout and Tadej will be close, maybe short course is more to liking of mr. bunch sprinter.

Going by this logic, why even bring up Ganna? You should be talking about Evenepoel, who beat Ganna 3 times in a row before his accident. He's the real worldchampion and unbeaten ITT'er of 2020, right? He won all his ITT's last year, including those against Ganna and Dennis. And henceforth, no ITT's should be ridden anymore, because we already know who is better than who. As the WCC 2019 showed, Roglic is a worse ITT'er than Campenaerts who crashed and had to stop 3 times. That settles that debate as well.

So, we know Evenepoel is better than Ganna, Ganna is better than Pogacar, Pogacar is better than van Aert, van Aert is better than Küng, Dennis, and the mortals. Please everybody, refer back to this list for future reference!

 

[BlueRoads]

what - 8.52? They are letting Niki Terpstra win this?

 

[Eeslliw]

Going by this logic, why even bring up Ganna? You should be talking about Evenepoel, who beat Ganna 3 times in a row before his accident. He's the real worldchampion and unbeaten ITT'er of 2020, right? He won all his ITT's last year, including those against Ganna and Dennis. And henceforth, no ITT's should be ridden anymore, because we already know who is better than who. As the WCC 2019 showed, Roglic is a worse ITT'er than Campenaerts who crashed and had to stop 3 times. That settles that debate as well.

So, we know Evenepoel is better than Ganna, Ganna is better than Pogacar, Pogacar is better than van Aert, van Aert is better than Küng, Dennis, and the mortals. Please everybody, refer back to this list for future reference!

That is just crazy. I just mentioned that TT in TDF, because some were saying that Wout will gap for substantional amount other GC contenders in TT. We all know there are different TTs that suit different type of riders. So I was not meaning to say Pogacar is defacto better because of TDF TT. Just to remind people what happend and not to expect big gaps between them.

It's short TT so I would say max 10-15 seconds between Wout and Pogacar. And in UAE Tadej showed he can ride those short fast TT also, not just hilly.

 

[hayneplane]

The TT is pan flat and the same course every year which makes it one of the better measuring guides of riders current form and career progress.

Ganna should be heavy favourite due to the course fitting his abilities best and less energy exerted through the race by not doing GC. WVA should go top 5 in the stage and top the GC riders but Pogi may only be 10-15 seconds back with Almeida next best.

 

[topt]

Maybe because van Aert was more tired, after three weeks of doing sprints and domestique work?
Maybe because van Aert is not a pure climber and saved energy on the flat to have some reserves on the climb?
Maybe because van Aert, as i already stated, always starts slow on longer ITT's in order to finish fast?
Maybe because Pogacar rode the ITT of his life that day?

This is all possible. Furthermore, both ITT's are not only completely different in style, but also in length.
Since then Pogacar has been beaten by a guy (Bjerg) who got beaten severely by van Aert on the WCC.
It simply doesn't work that way.


Going by this logic, why even bring up Ganna? You should be talking about Evenepoel, who beat Ganna 3 times in a row before his accident. He's the real worldchampion and unbeaten ITT'er of 2020, right? He won all his ITT's last year, including those against Ganna and Dennis. And henceforth, no ITT's should be ridden anymore, because we already know who is better than who. As the WCC 2019 showed, Roglic is a worse ITT'er than Campenaerts who crashed and had to stop 3 times. That settles that debate as well.

So, we know Evenepoel is better than Ganna, Ganna is better than Pogacar, Pogacar is better than van Aert, van Aert is better than Küng, Dennis, and the mortals. Please everybody, refer back to this list for future reference!

or maybe Pogacar is just a better TTer,;what we do know for sure is, in the last TT Pogacar beat WVA by a big margin, so until that changes I see no reason to expect WVA to gain time on pogacar

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

That is just crazy. I just mentioned that TT in TDF, because some were saying that Wout will gap for substantional amount other GC contenders in TT. We all know there are different TTs that suit different type of riders. So I was not meaning to say Pogacar is defacto better because of TDF TT. Just to remind people what happend and not to expect big gaps between them.

It's short TT so I would say max 10-15 seconds between Wout and Pogacar. And in UAE Tadej showed he can ride those short fast TT also, not just hilly.

Sorry, didn't see any predictions of big gaps. Gaps would be comparable or even smaller than in EAU.

or maybe Pogacar is just a better TTer,;what we do know for sure is, in the last TT Pogacar beat WVA by a big margin.

Sure, maybe.

 

[Zoef-Lightning]

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i dont believe for a second vdp was on the limit. Or it was a really bad day after strade lol.
What is more likely, is something I read in an interview just before the 2nd stage.
And that is the idea of the team is that VDP is supposed to come out of the Tirreno relatively fresh. Which also meant for this stage: if it's being controlled, sprint for the win. If it's being pushed extremely hard, let go. Basically the plan is for VDP to not over-exert himself here.
So he might ride on a limiter here and not go beyond until the sprint.

Which brings me to question that tomorrow is the nthe only chance left, because for sure Castelfidardo is going to be raced hard and he'd be put on a limit there. So i see him as likely to softpedal both Prato di Tivo and Castelfidardo.

Of course Van der Poel was on the limit. It's not a novice rider who does not know how to position himself. Which is very easy in a uphill. Slower speed and everyone in line. It was obvious he couldn't get any closer the last km. He only had one "cartouche" left. An explosive sprint the last 100 m.

 

[Bonimenier]

or maybe Pogacar is just a better TTer,;what we do know for sure is, in the last TT Pogacar beat WVA by a big margin.

What we do know for sure is that Pogacar in his last TT lost as much time on Ganna in 13 km as van Aert did in his last TT in 32km. What we also know for sure is that Pogacar in his last TT got beaten by Bjerg, while van Aert took 1min30 on Bjerg in his last TT.

 

[glassmoon]

Caleb struggling already?

 

[topt]

Also, in the lost sprint yesterday, VDP said "Ik duwde twintig seconden lang 1200 watt "

so 20s 1200w.

wau, crazy numbers

 

[Ricco']

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Of course Van der Poel was on the limit. It's not a novice rider who does not know how to position himself. Which is very easy in a uphill. Slower speed and everyone in line. It was obvious he couldn't get any closer the last km. He only had one "cartouche" left. An explosive sprint the last 100 m.

As I said before he was well positioned 600m from the finish, next to Alaphilippe and Van Aert, when then bunch caught Sivakov and Landa, who blocked the right part of the peloton who was closer to the edge of the road due to a right turn. Thomas launched on that moment his attack with Ala on his wheel on the left side of the bunch and that side reacted quickly leaving VDP slightly behind. Of course that everyone was on their limit when Thomas went full gas. If MVDP wanted to take places he would need to start his sprint from afar (much time before Ala and Van Aert started their sprints) and he might take a couple of places back but he wouldn't be able to match the final effort of these two riders.