Tirreno-Adriatico 2023, March 6-12

[staubsauger]

You can have brunch..........gels and eggs.......and pay much too much

And you can have cold Pizza Hawaii as breakfast on Sunday afternoon!

 

[CyclistAbi]

Or you can have a croissant at TA today.

 

[Lequack]

So it's the same token break riders as yesterday? It's going to be a long day.

 

[Mayomaniac]

2 men TT for the Bais brothers? Sounds like a cool story to tell in the future.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Likely similar race to yesterday indeed. Hopefully for the finale to not be tasking on the GC guys. In terms of crashes. Then they can take it from there starting tomorrow.

 

[gregrowlerson]

2 men TT for the Bais brothers? Sounds like a cool story to tell in the future.

No treaty can ever be reached in the battle of ITT vs. TTT, so maybe they're trying to find some middle ground.

 

[Red Rick]

I do honestly think that flat stage breakaways have become a farce.

And I have no solution for that.

 

[Tonton]

I do honestly think that flat stage breakaways have become a farce.

And I have no solution for that.

No flat stages ?

 

[Samamba]

I do honestly think that flat stage breakaways have become a farce.

And I have no solution for that.

No solution here either and I agree.
I guess noone sees a chance at winning from there, but then again, last year in the Giro (and in think in 2021 too) the flat stage breakaway actually won a few times or mess up in the end by looking at eachother. In 2021 a flat stage breakaway won in the Tirreno too. It's not impossible. But I guess sprint teams just simply don't let good riders in the breakaway anymore.

 

[Mayomaniac]

No flat stages ?

I can see why you'd want to have a easy flat stage after a block of harder stages and/or a stage that is made for long range attacks. Other than that, make the start of the stage hilly, like the final stage in this race, and throw people out of the race for obvious road blocking bs.

 

[BR2]

I do honestly think that flat stage breakaways have become a farce.

And I have no solution for that.

Ideas:

• Stop broadcasting more then the final of these stages.
• Reduce team sizes.
• Reduce the World Tour.
• Get rid of power meters.

 

[Lequack]

The problem is the process of wildcard teams that get invited. They are expected by the organizers to go in these meaningless brakes or else next year not get invited any more. Without it we would have stages with just peloton on a Sunday ride without a break, and the organizers/UCI would have to do something eventually. But as long as they have wildcard teams to push around there will be no changes.

 

[movingtarget]

Quite. Basically they've just yanked him out of his slumber a few weeks prematurely. He did manage to shave his mustache though, unfortunately.

There......wolf.......

 

[movingtarget]

It's the haircut. They must have a much better hairdresser in Bora than they had in DSM/Sunweb.

He asked for the extra strength blow dry.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

I'm a fan of Bais Boys breakaways, but they could have made the stage bit more interesting by including the Montalcino sterrato sections (they would of course hve comed too early for them to have any impact, but they would have produced some nice images).

 

[BR2]

I'm a fan of Bais Boys breakaways, but they could have made the stage bit more interesting by including the Montalcino sterrato sections (they would of course hve comed too early for them to have any impact, but they would have produced some nice images).

As much as I like sterrato, you can't include it in every race now because otherwise nothing will happen.
In my eyes one solution is to not expect anything and to not watch these stages anymore. Another one is to break the pattern of extreme controlled racing by having less strong teams and less power infos while they ride.

 

[Mayomaniac]

The problem is the process of wildcard teams that get invited. They are expected by the organizers to go in these meaningless brakes or else next year not get invited any more. Without it we would have stages with just peloton on a Sunday ride without a break, and the organizers/UCI would have to do something eventually. But as long as they have wildcard teams to push around there will be no changes.

Not to mention that there's prize money for most kms in the breakaway and everything in RCS races, then the race organizers really don't have to complain if certain riders on wildcard teams target that one.
I remember when the 2011 Zoncolan stage went past my hometown. The breakaway rode at a good pace, but behind it was such a coffee ride tempo that your average weekend warrior could have ridden at the end of the bunch with zero problems...

 

[Riek s]

Quite. Basically they've just yanked him out of his slumber a few weeks prematurely. He did manage to shave his mustache though, unfortunately.

So for a team that is supposable dominating because of its incredible organization, they don't have a shaving/waxing employee?

 

[Samu Cuenca]

As much as I like sterrato, you can't include it in every race now because otherwise nothing will happen.
In my eyes one solution is to not expect anything and to not watch these stages anymore. Another one is to break the pattern of extreme controlled racing by having less strong teams and less power infos while they ride.

I don't really have any issues with almsot certain sprint stages, as long as there aren't too many of them in a row.

I think power meters get too much heat, but on the other hand I wouldn't actually mind it if the riders didn't even know how fast they were going and had to ride on intuition and feeling alone. That's what I usually do, which probably also explains why I keep blowing myself up too early

 

[BR2]

So for a team that is supposable dominating because of its incredible organization, they don't have a shaving/waxing employee?

Maybe he likes his legs hairy? It's not like this is an insanely important race where every second matters. And nobody has a problem with beards (apart from me).

 

[Red Rick]

Not to mention that there's prize money for most kms in the breakaway and everything in RCS races, then the race organizers really don't have to complain if certain riders on wildcard teams target that one.
I remember when the 2011 Zoncolan stage went past my hometown. The breakaway rode at a good pace, but behind it was such a coffee ride tempo that your average weekend warrior could have ridden at the end of the bunch with zero problems...

If you can sit in the middle of the bunch a lot almost anyone can sit in there for the early hours. I've seen Kuss do like 60W in the peloton

 

[Red Rick]

So for a team that is supposable dominating because of its incredible organization, they don't have a shaving/waxing employee?

Why would they. It was debunked ages ago that shaven legs are more aero.

 

[Riek s]

Why would they. It was debunked ages ago that shaven legs are more aero.

Well i checked an fast query comes up with:

In the News: Wind tunnel data indicates shaved legs are faster

The Globe and Mail reports that tests in Specialized's wind tunnel indicate that that shaving one's legs may reduce drag by about seven percent

www.velonews.com

 

[Tim Cahill]

Roglic should go for the Rasmussen 'straight out of the womb' look for races he's taking seriously.

 

[Carrick-On-Seine]

Why would they. It was debunked ages ago that shaven legs are more aero.

It's more hygienic if you fall off and have a graze or cut.