Tirreno-Adriatico Stage 7: San Benedetto del Tronto (ITT) 9.3km

[El Pistolero]

Was there any doubt that Gesink is a better climber in GTs than Cuddles?

Don't know what you guys are discussing about.

 

[boomcie]

Although I do tip Gesink for the podium now. After Andy and Basso.

If boring Basso ends on the podium of the TDF this year I will:

1. be surprised
2. be unpleased
3. be disappointed
4. be bored ****less
5. not eat spaghetti or lasagna for two weeks (no, not more)

What a colorless figure. Zoncolan my ***.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

But never the less, Nibali is smart to not go to the Tour. He'll win GTs, while Gesink never will if he keeps focusing on the Tour. Let's face it, he's never going to be a match for Andy.

We'll see. I get more confident when you shout that, because you've been proven wrong on almost every occasion so far when you started shouting.

Evans winning this + a hilly stage is one thing for instance

 

[theyoungest]

If boring Basso ends on the podium of the TDF this year I will:

1. be surprised
2. be unpleased
3. be disappointed
4. be bored ****less
5. not eat spaghetti or lasagna for two weeks (no, not more)

What a colorless figure. Zoncolan my ***.

He was colourless in this Tirreno yes, but that's because like Gesink these climbs don't suit him. I actually think he did surprisingly well (except for his time trialing skills that seem to elude him ever since his return).

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

but you're apart of the dutch mafia and when you associate with posters like T_L_R & D_T you don't help your cause!

Coming from you, hilarious
Anywho I realize your baiting but please link me to any unreasonable gesink posts I've made.

@Kurt almost every meeting at high mountains gesink has bettered Evans. Progression suggests this will only increase.

I should sleep now.

 

[El Pistolero]

We'll see. I get more confident when you shout that, because you've been proven wrong on almost every occasion so far when you started shouting.

Evans winning this + a hilly stage is one thing for instance

No, I said Cuddles wouldn't be able to win a sprint at the finish of LBL and used stage 5 as an example.

I don't see what the finish of stage 6 has to do with LBL... More Fleche Wallone yeah, and I wouldn't be surprised if he wins there again. When Cuddles starts winning on the Cauberg than I'll be dead wrong.

I actually was right many times as I was for example the only one tipping Gilbert for stage 5 while everyone said to me the other stage would be more for him. Yeah right(ACF said that for example)

I didn't expect Cuddles to attack in stage 6 and he didn't. He managed to stay in the front group and finished it of with a impressive timing.

That said, I don't think me tipping Gesink for the podium is an insult to the Dutch Maffia Nor is it unreasonable.

 

[Ferminal]

On the four MTFs that Vuelta before Gesink fell he succeeded in putting time into Evans in each one.

Gesink was also a much better climber than SSanchez too.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

@pistolero: you tip Gilbert for every stage with a hill in it. Eventually you get 1 right out of 3, he failed in the other 2 stages.

too funny.

 

[kurtinsc]

On the four MTFs that Vuelta before Gesink fell he succeeded in putting time into Evans in each one.

-Alto de Aitana Stage 8

3. Gesink
4. Evans +6s

-Alto de Velefique Stage 12

3. Gesink
7. Evans +10s

-Sierra Nevada Stage 13 (that of the famous flat)

4. Gesink
8. Evans +1m 07s

-La Pandera Stage 14

6. Gesink
7. Evans +14s

While that clearly is a difference, I don't view it as significant (other then Sierra Nevada which was helped along by something unrelated to climbing ability).

If Gesink can TT better then Evans, then he'll be better overall obviously. But if a rider loses a grand total of 40 seconds on 4 MTF finishes (giving Gesink 10 seconds on Sierra Nevada assuming no flat for Evans), I don't consider him a significantly better climber. A tiny bit better perhaps... but Evans put 27 seconds into Gesink on three hilly stages in the TA. If Gesink is significantly better on high mountains, then Evans seems to be significantly better by a similar margin in the hills.

Now Gesink may have improved since then. I think he has. But I don't have a more recent reference for the two riders in high mountains while in any sort of form/health.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Gesink was also a much better climber than SSanchez too.

Actually no. Samuel lost time on 2 occasions, especially on Xorret de Cati. But he won time on Gesink uphill in the 3rd week and was the strongest climber in that race at that time (3rd week)

 

[El Pistolero]

@pistolero: you tip Gilbert for every stage with a hill in it. Eventually you get 1 right out of 3, he failed in the other 2 stages.

too funny.

I tipped Di Luca or Scarponi for the win on stage 6. He was a let down, but meh, it's a climb he should've done well on, but clearly is not in top shape yet.

 

[boomcie]

I am also starting to notice how much I am like Robert Gesink...

1. He and I love cycling
2. We speak the same language
3. Our hight and weight are identical (really, if there is a difference it's negligible).
4. He and I were born in the same year and on exactly the same day.

This scares me.

Also: we both look like a grandpa with a baby-face. No seriously, only he does.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

I was born exactly 2 months before him (31 march instead of 31 may).

If only I waited 2 months, would I have had the same talent

 

[boomcie]

I was born exactly 2 months before him (31 march instead of 31 may).

If only I waited 2 months, would I have had the same talent

Like me you mean?
Dream on! (both of us)

 

[Ferminal]

Actually no. Samuel lost time on 2 occasions, especially on Xorret de Cati. But he won time on Gesink uphill in the 3rd week and was the strongest climber in that race at that time (3rd week)

Once maybe? Gesink was far more consistent. Samu climbed more or less at the same level as Evans, he finished 2nd because of the TTs and puncture (Evans I think would have dropped on Sierra Nevada anyway, but not past Sanchez).

 

[theyoungest]

Actually no. Samuel lost time on 2 occasions, especially on Xorret de Cati. But he won time on Gesink uphill in the 3rd week and was the strongest climber in that race at that time (3rd week)

I'd say that title goes to Mosquera.

 

[Cobblestoned]

Congrats Evans !

He made it. Gesink good performance again.

Finally it makes sense today that cycling is just all about Evans, Gesink TT, ACF, Dutch mafia, BMC and all these never ending jokes regarding that.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

I do think this ends all discussion about Gesink not being able to TT.

Shuts them up. Where are those people anyway?

 

[kurtinsc]

I do think this ends all discussion about Gesink not being able to TT.

Shuts them up. Where are those people anyway?

Gesink can't time trial.

Unless it's hilly, or flat and under 10 KM.

There... will that work for you.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Contador can't climb, unless it's uphill and long or short or medium length.

 

[Moondance]

I do think this ends all discussion about Gesink not being able to TT.

Shuts them up. Where are those people anyway?

Indeed... I sure hope this guys shuts up about it:

We'll see by the end of the week won't we.
A short flat TT is the ultimately tortute for Gesink, he NEVER performed in those ones. He never did 1 decent flat prologue below 50th place. So...

 

[theyoungest]

Indeed... I sure hope this guys shuts up about it:

Although I think nobody expected this. Especially as his form seems to be a bit off.

 

[boomcie]

I do think this ends all discussion about Gesink not being able to TT.

Shuts them up. Where are those people anyway?

I'm here! How could you have missed me?

 

[maltiv]

Cadel Evans TT position is one of the worst I've seen on such a high-quality rider. He probably had to push the same watts as Cancellara in order to finish 30 seconds behind with that non-aero position of his...

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Indeed... I sure hope this guys shuts up about it:

Got me there, fair and square..