Tom Danielson

[zigmeister]

^Exactly. Tom sure has been quiet after his initial defiant statements and responses to Tweets about how stupid everybody is except him regarding the matter. Haven't seen/heard anything out of JV for 6-8 months on any topic for that matter as well. Gone into hiding himself on these topics.

 

[HelmutRoole]

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I thought Tom Danielson was blaming an ex for spiking him?????

More BS.

If it's DHEA it's easy to prove. A CIR done properly can isolate DHEA from exogenous testosterone. Look at the LaShawn Merritt case. It was done there.

USADA: They're idiots on this topic.

 

[Benotti69]

Re: Re:

I thought Tom Danielson was blaming an ex for spiking him?????

More BS.

If it's DHEA it's easy to prove. A CIR done properly can isolate DHEA from exogenous testosterone. Look at the LaShawn Merritt case. It was done there.

USADA: They're idiots on this topic.

Seems Danielson is going with a similar, didn't meant to dope excuse, but i stupidly did not check the supplement thoroughly, which is BS.

 

[jmdirt]

TD "After thoroughly investigating all possible avenues and countless tests, we have identified the likely cause of my positive test as a dietary supplement I have taken for many years without issue." EDIT: ...or the doping products that I was using that weren't supposed to show up on tests.

He doped as a collegiate mountain bike racer, he doped at Mercury, Saturn, (edit) Fasa, and Discovery, but we should believe that he wouldn't dope in 2015 ( you know, for health reasons)? Plus, he had actually slowed down when he went to Slipstream, but then sped up again in 2013-2015.

The sh*t side of this though is that there are many, many guys who doped more and profited more, and they are still going strong. That doesn't make me feel sorry for TD, but it is something to think about.

EDIT: At this point, why would JV have anything to say? Not bringing TD back for '16 says a lot.

 

[Benotti69]

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TD "After thoroughly investigating all possible avenues and countless tests, we have identified the likely cause of my positive test as a dietary supplement I have taken for many years without issue." EDIT: ...or the doping products that I was using that weren't supposed to show up on tests.

He doped as a collegiate mountain bike racer, he doped at Mercury, Saturn, (edit) Fasa, and Discovery, but we should believe that he wouldn't dope in 2015 ( you know, for health reasons)? Plus, he had actually slowed down when he went to Slipstream, but then sped up again in 2013-2015.

The sh*t side of this though is that there are many, many guys who doped more and profited more, and they are still going strong. That doesn't make me feel sorry for TD, but it is something to think about.

EDIT: At this point, why would JV have anything to say? Not bringing TD back for '16 says a lot.

JV has nothing to say. He said it when he declared that if anyone on his team tested positive he was done with the sport forever, but when Tom D was busted he stayed!

 

[Irondan]

JV didn't bring TD back in 2016 because Tommy boy is provisionally suspended, not because he was making a statement....

 

[Benotti69]

taking the pi$$...

"I hope to educate others on the dangers of supplement use"

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/racing/tom-danielson-i-hope-to-educate-others-on-the-dangers-of-supplement-use-232664?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social

 

[thehog]

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taking the pi$$...

"I hope to educate others on the dangers of supplement use"

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/racing/tom-danielson-i-hope-to-educate-others-on-the-dangers-of-supplement-use-232664?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social

TommyD will save all of us from unintentional ingestion. I believe in him.

 

[HelmutRoole]

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taking the pi$$...

"I hope to educate others on the dangers of supplement use"

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/racing/tom-danielson-i-hope-to-educate-others-on-the-dangers-of-supplement-use-232664?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social

He's taking a page from Tom Zirbel's playbook. He'll play the DEAH card and roll on a few of his former teammates.

Ref. Merritt's case: his first CIR was an adverse analytical for testosterone or its precursors (same as Zirbel). A second CIR was positive for DHEA. He did consume DHEA. The question that USADA won't answer is (among many) did they also do a separate CIR for testosterone. It is possible to have both in you body.

 

[86TDFWinner]

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taking the pi$$...

"I hope to educate others on the dangers of supplement use"

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/racing/tom-danielson-i-hope-to-educate-others-on-the-dangers-of-supplement-use-232664?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social

He's taking a page from Tom Zirbel's playbook. He'll play the DEAH card and roll on a few of his former teammates.

Ref. Merritt's case: his first CIR was an adverse analytical for testosterone or its precursors (same as Zirbel). A second CIR was positive for DHEA. He did consume DHEA. The question that USADA won't answer is (among many) did they also do a separate CIR for testosterone. It is possible to have both in you body.

He's also taking a page out of Contadopers book on the "I don't know how that got in my body, I are meat, the dog ate my homework" excuse.

 

[Benotti69]

I wonder did Vaughters pay out the rest of his contract....

 

[StryderHells]

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I wonder did Vaughters pay out the rest of his contract....

He didn't have a contract for 2016 or are you talking about the rest of his salary for the 2015 season?

 

[Benotti69]

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I wonder did Vaughters pay out the rest of his contract....

He didn't have a contract for 2016 or are you talking about the rest of his salary for the 2015 season?

He got busted before ToC. So yeah the rest of the season, 2015.

 

[blackcat]

Re: Re:

I thought Tom Danielson was blaming an ex for spiking him?????

More BS.

If it's DHEA it's easy to prove. A CIR done properly can isolate DHEA from exogenous testosterone. Look at the LaShawn Merritt case. It was done there.

USADA: They're idiots on this topic.

just take the testo releasing peptides and gh releasing peptides, it is just ur own pituitaru being piqued to do all the damn work

 

[blackcat]

Re: Re:

I thought Tom Danielson was blaming an ex for spiking him?????

More BS.

If it's DHEA it's easy to prove. A CIR done properly can isolate DHEA from exogenous testosterone. Look at the LaShawn Merritt case. It was done there.

USADA: They're idiots on this topic.

Dennis Mitchell #FTW

yeah, Tommy D just had too much sex with Utah Podium girls and the Church of Latter Day Saints and Morons and L Rob Hubbard got evens
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2013/jul/15/doping-denials

too much sex m8, it was not just Lance who had the Faustian curse of pudenda.

 

[blackcat]

Re: Re:

taking the pi$$...

"I hope to educate others on the dangers of supplement use"

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/racing/tom-danielson-i-hope-to-educate-others-on-the-dangers-of-supplement-use-232664?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social

He's taking a page from Tom Zirbel's playbook. He'll play the DEAH card and roll on a few of his former teammates.

Ref. Merritt's case: his first CIR was an adverse analytical for testosterone or its precursors (same as Zirbel). A second CIR was positive for DHEA. He did consume DHEA. The question that USADA won't answer is (among many) did they also do a separate CIR for testosterone. It is possible to have both in you body.

love how they snitch

#weakwilled

 

[V3R1T4S]

Happy 1 year anniversary!

 

[Benotti69]

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Happy 1 year anniversary!

How long does it take to analyse a pot of pi$$?

 

[Enrico Gimondi]

http://cyclingtips.com/2016/10/fourteen-months-later-usada-hands-tom-danielson-reduced-four-year-sanction-for-contaminated-supplement/

four-year sanction — a reduced sanction, Danielson said in a statement, because USADA accepted that he had taken a contaminated supplement.

 

[Benotti69]

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http://cyclingtips.com/2016/10/fourteen-months-later-usada-hands-tom-danielson-reduced-four-year-sanction-for-contaminated-supplement/

four-year sanction — a reduced sanction, Danielson said in a statement, because USADA accepted that he had taken a contaminated supplement.

What a joke.

 

[Lexman]

makes him 41 when the suspension is over, best years are yet to come and he will have the right age to win a GT (ask Horner)

 

[Benotti69]

No statement from slipstream sports. Gone with the tailwind!

 

[sniper]

B..b..but its only the second time he gets a reduced ban...

 

[Enrico Gimondi]

http://velonews.competitor.com/2016/10/news/danielson-ducks-lifetime-ban-dhea-ingestion-deemed-unintentional_422322

USADA says TD might not be telling the truth in his statement.

USADA’s statement makes no mention of unintentional ingestion or contamination, and when contacted by VeloNews USADA representative Ryan Madden disputed Danielson’s portrayal of the reduced ban.

“At no point during USADA’s investigation were we presented with scientific evidence suggesting that Mr. Danielson’s positive test resulted from a contaminated product,” Madden said in a statement Thursday afternoon.

 

[IndianCyclist]

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http://velonews.competitor.com/2016/10/news/danielson-ducks-lifetime-ban-dhea-ingestion-deemed-unintentional_422322

USADA says TD might not be telling the truth in his statement.

USADA’s statement makes no mention of unintentional ingestion or contamination, and when contacted by VeloNews USADA representative Ryan Madden disputed Danielson’s portrayal of the reduced ban.

“At no point during USADA’s investigation were we presented with scientific evidence suggesting that Mr. Danielson’s positive test resulted from a contaminated product,” Madden said in a statement Thursday afternoon.

looks to be a media spin by TD