Teams & Riders Tom Dumoulin discussion thread

[Red Rick]

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Nope. Rafał the Greatest Majka (by his absence).

Fair enough.

Rafal Majka shall win the Tour de France.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

I support this motion. Rafal Majka for TDF victory

 

[Koronin]

Sure why not. Mijka for the Tour win.

 

[Gigs_98]

Let's make this a real thing. #majkaforyellow

 

[Bot. Sky_Bot]

Let's make this a real thing. #majkaforyellow

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[movingtarget]

Let's make this a real thing. #majkaforyellow

"#majkaforyellow - did not match any documents."

See Polka Dots...........

 

[Blanco]

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Yes, and it's the best thread to say it:
If ASO forces the 2nd/3rd rider of the World (TD) to abandon TdF because of its route, it's absolutely crazy.

He's neither 2nd nor 3rd rider of the World

 

[Singer01]

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Yes, and it's the best thread to say it:
If ASO forces the 2nd/3rd rider of the World (TD) to abandon TdF because of its route, it's absolutely crazy.

He's neither 2nd nor 3rd rider of the World

It's not remotely unreasonable to say he is.

 

[Red Rick]

https://www.telegraaf.nl/sport/2967936/dumoulin-er-ontstond-kortsluiting-in-mijn-hoofd

Nice article on Dumoulin's mental struggles in the past year.

He says he's a much happier person than last year. He really struggled with being famous all of a sudden after his Giro win. So much was happening around him, and he only saw the negative stuff, and being the control freak he is, he started overcompensating by training too much. Credits his gf, now wife, who is a psychologist, with getting him through it.

There's a premium article I don't have access to.

 

[Robert5091]

If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;

Can n't be easy being the next big thing - hope the wifey helps him stay on the straight and narrow. He did look thinner this year though.

 

[Koronin]

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https://www.telegraaf.nl/sport/2967936/dumoulin-er-ontstond-kortsluiting-in-mijn-hoofd

Nice article on Dumoulin's mental struggles in the past year.

He says he's a much happier person than last year. He really struggled with being famous all of a sudden after his Giro win. So much was happening around him, and he only saw the negative stuff, and being the control freak he is, he started overcompensating by training too much. Credits his gf, now wife, who is a psychologist, with getting him through it.

There's a premium article I don't have access to.

Here's the English version. Hopefully translated correctly. http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/tom-dumoulin-i-didnt-become-a-cyclist-for-the-money-and-the-fame/

Hopefully he's got a handle on it now. Sounds like his wife is a great asset/help for him.

 

[Salvarani]

Double up.

 

[Red Rick]

https://nos.nl/artikel/2266013-na-lang-twijfelen-hakte-sunweb-voor-dumoulin-de-knoop-door-toch-giro.html

Dumoulin doesn't want to do everything right for the Tour and get 3rd cause the route doesn't suit him, and waste a good Giro opportunity.

Then why would he do exactly that by riding the Tour over the Vuelta.

Riding the Tour after the Giro makes absolutely no sense with the explanation that's given.

So I guess it's sponsors.

Also literally says he was gonna do the Tour 100% focus until the route scared him off

Obviously he's now gonna reward the organisers by showing up anyway.

I'm orally defecating in my mouth a little.



Lastly, Oomen to the Tour, no Giro. Kelderman goes to the Giro.

Anyway, full interview will come out on Sunday apparently.

 

[eric_vv]

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Lastly, Oomen to the Tour, no Giro. Unless Kelderman goes to the Giro, he'll spend a lot of time alone in Italy

Anyway, full interview will come out on Sunday apparently.

In the same article it says that Kelderman will ride the Giro. Not the strongest possible team, but Kelderman will do (unless he crashes out again).

 

[rick james]

this year is not the year for a Giro - Tour double attempt, the Giro field is crazy this year, it will be a crazy tough race...I don't understand a double attempt

 

[Red Rick]

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this year is not the year for a Giro - Tour double attempt, the Giro field is crazy this year, it will be a crazy tough race...I don't understand a double attempt

My guess is that after this year a lot of people think it's suddenly a viable option, and a lot of riders go to the Tour cause sponsor pressure.

 

[movingtarget]

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https://nos.nl/artikel/2266013-na-lang-twijfelen-hakte-sunweb-voor-dumoulin-de-knoop-door-toch-giro.html

Dumoulin doesn't want to do everything right for the Tour and get 3rd cause the route doesn't suit him, and waste a good Giro opportunity.

Then why would he do exactly that by riding the Tour over the Vuelta.

Riding the Tour after the Giro makes absolutely no sense with the explanation that's given.

So I guess it's sponsors.

Also literally says he was gonna do the Tour 100% focus until the route scared him off

Obviously he's now gonna reward the organisers by showing up anyway.

I'm orally defecating in my mouth a little.



Lastly, Oomen to the Tour, no Giro. Kelderman goes to the Giro.

Anyway, full interview will come out on Sunday apparently.

Easy way to cut himself some slack and say it's not an attempt at the double when he probably has it in the back of his mind after the two second places last year. At the same time he now realizes how hard it is to do a really good second grand tour. I think he is secretly hoping that Sky have some issues at the Tour which gives him more hope and his TT will be enough to get him on the top step at the Giro. I still think the Giro will be a very competitive race but Dumoulin has showed over the past two seasons that he does enough in the mountains and is much better at riding his own race on the final climbs instead of worrying too much about tactics. The TT is still his strength and knowing how to time his effort for minimal time loss on the MTFs.

 

[Salvarani]

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this year is not the year for a Giro - Tour double attempt, the Giro field is crazy this year, it will be a crazy tough race...I don't understand a double attempt

He is going for the Giro.

He will show up at the Tour and see how it goes. He fall out of GC, he can go for a stage win or something.

 

[Tim Booth]

Giro
BAKELANTS Jan
DUMOULIN Tom
HAGA Chad
HAMILTON Chris
KELDERMAN Wilco
POWER Robert
TUSVELD Martijn
VERVAEKE Louis

Tour
ARNDT Nikias
DUMOULIN Tom
KELDERMAN Wilco
KRAGH ANDERSEN Søren
KÄMNA Lennard
MATTHEWS Michael
OOMEN Sam
ROCHE Nicholas

 

[yaco]

Look at the two teams and undoubtedly the TDF squad is stronger and should finish near the top in the TTT.

 

[Squire]

The Dutchies sure like to plan in advance.

 

[wheresmybrakes]

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this year is not the year for a Giro - Tour double attempt, the Giro field is crazy this year, it will be a crazy tough race...I don't understand a double attempt

I agree that the field is crazy this year in the Giro, but I wouldn't be surprised to see half the big guns end up falling away from a decent GC position and go on to use the Giro as getting some mileage in the legs in preparation for a good shot at the Tour. Dumo gonna go up against the Skyborgs who are totally focused on the Tour so think he has the best chance to go all out and win the Giro and stage hunt in the Tour.

 

[Red Rick]

Giro/Vuelta makes by far the most sense in terms of having good chances of winning big races.

 

[Vesica]

Giro
BAKELANTS Jan
DUMOULIN Tom
HAGA Chad
HAMILTON Chris
KELDERMAN Wilco
POWER Robert
TUSVELD Martijn
VERVAEKE Louis

Tour
ARNDT Nikias
DUMOULIN Tom
KELDERMAN Wilco
KRAGH ANDERSEN Søren
KÄMNA Lennard
MATTHEWS Michael
OOMEN Sam
ROCHE Nicholas

I don't understand this. Sunweb/Dumoulin wants to go all in for the Giro and than they put a far stronger squad on paper for the Tour...plus why on earth would you already name your squad now. There's something like form or injuries.

 

[kiszol]

Giro
BAKELANTS Jan
DUMOULIN Tom
HAGA Chad
HAMILTON Chris
KELDERMAN Wilco
POWER Robert
TUSVELD Martijn
VERVAEKE Louis

Tour
ARNDT Nikias
DUMOULIN Tom
KELDERMAN Wilco
KRAGH ANDERSEN Søren
KÄMNA Lennard
MATTHEWS Michael
OOMEN Sam
ROCHE Nicholas

I don't understand this. Sunweb/Dumoulin wants to go all in for the Giro and than they put a far stronger squad on paper for the Tour...plus why on earth would you already name your squad now. There's something like form or injuries.

I guess this list is not official, or is it? It's just speculation, however I think it's close to the truth. The Tour team almost certainly will feature Dumoulin, Kelderman, Oomen, Roche and Matthews.