Teams & Riders Tom Dumoulin discussion thread

[Red Rick]

Tune in for Season 2 of the Tom Dumoulin Saga.

The Transfer

 

[Põhja Konn]

Neither Dumoulin nor Roglic have been obsessed with riding the Tour year-in year-out thus far in their career. Shouldn't be a problem alternating Tour leadership from year to year unless that attitude suddenly changes.

 

[Sybrand]

In the case of Dumoulin moving to Jumbo, I think Roglic will leave. For Jumbo as a sponsor, Dumoulin is far more interesting than Roglic. Roglic' contract expires in 2020 I think, but maybe Bahrain (for example) can make a deal with Jumbo?

 

[Red Rick]

Re:

In the case of Dumoulin moving to Jumbo, I think Roglic will leave. For Jumbo as a sponsor, Dumoulin is far more interesting than Roglic. Roglic' contract expires in 2020 I think, but maybe Bahrain (for example) can make a deal with Jumbo?

Jumbo were trying to extend with Roglic before this Dumoulin crap all came down. It may all put Roglic into an unfortunate position cause I really do think he deserves to be the sole leader of a strong GC team.

 

[Laplaz]

Roglic to Bahrain-Merida would make sense. A lot of slovenians already there. And for Tom Jumbo-Visma would be perfect too I think.

 

[jaylew]

Dumo says a transfer isn't happening.

 

[Gigs_98]

Re:

Roglic to Bahrain-Merida would make sense. A lot of slovenians already there. And for Tom Jumbo-Visma would be perfect too I think.

I want to see landa's face If that's happening :lol:

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

there is probably some truth to him being unhappy. But ultimately i think the management meeting is more about sunweb having to give dumoulin some assurances concerning next season.

 

[Red Rick]

Re:

there is probably some truth to him being unhappy. But ultimately i think the management meeting is more about sunweb having to give dumoulin some assurances concerning next season.

Didn't he get assurances the past 19 years?

 

[Laplaz]

Re: Re:

Roglic to Bahrain-Merida would make sense. A lot of slovenians already there. And for Tom Jumbo-Visma would be perfect too I think.

I want to see landa's face If that's happening :lol:

Me not, poor Mikel

 

[42x16ss]

Re:

there is probably some truth to him being unhappy. But ultimately i think the management meeting is more about sunweb having to give dumoulin some assurances concerning next season.

They have to, because their only reliable winners at WT level are Dumo and Matthews and both sound less than happy with the team ATM. If it weren't for Cees Bol, they'd only be ahead of Di Data.

 

[Vesica]

Spekenbrink responds on dutch newswebsite NOS:

"De verhalen in de krant hebben mij ook verrast", zegt teammanager Iwan Spekenbrink, die in 2017 het contract van Dumoulin tot eind 2021 verlengde.

"Wij werden er gisteravond over gebeld, vanochtend stond het in de krant. Op dit moment speelt dit helemaal niet. Sterker, volgende week zijn we uitgenodigd voor een gesprek door het management van Dumoulin. We moeten eerst maar eens afwachten."

free translated:

"The stories in the newspaper surprised me as well" says teammanager Iwan Spekenbrink, who extended in 2017 Doumoulin's contract untill 2021.

We were called yesterday evening, this morning it was in the newspaper. At the moment there are no issues. We're even having talks with Dumoulin's management next week. We first have to wait."

Well, to me that sounds exactly like a manager who knows that the story in the newspaper is true and now plays the 'oh well i'm very surprised card'.

source: https://nos.nl/artikel/2291789-sunweb-verrast-door-vertrekwens-dumoulin-volgende-week-gesprek.html


EDIT:

on dutch newssite nu.nl Spekenbrink confirms that there's a clause.

Mocht Dumoulin echt willen vertrekken, dan kan Spekenbrink hem in principe niet stoppen. "Als principe klopt dat. Er gaat nu zoveel in het rond. Het is Tom Dumoulin, een heel groot sportman die heel veel voor ons heeft betekend. Natuurlijk willen wij verder met Tom. Laten we rustig blijven en geen circus creëren."

If Dumoulin really wants to leave, Spekenbrink can't stop him. "in principle that is correct. There's so much going on right now. It's TD, a very big sportsman, who did a lot for us. Of course we want to continue with Tom. Let's stay calm en don't make a circus."

 

[JosephK]

I think a move by TD to Jumbo-Visma could be good for him. They had some problems of their own with injuries before and during the Giro, but they have solid guys for GC support, barring injuries/illness.

 

[Nirvana]

Re: Re:

there is probably some truth to him being unhappy. But ultimately i think the management meeting is more about sunweb having to give dumoulin some assurances concerning next season.

They have to, because their only reliable winners at WT level are Dumo and Matthews and both sound less than happy with the team ATM. If it weren't for Cees Bol, they'd only be ahead of Di Data.

Matthews has extended for two years two days ago saying he's really happy with the team.

https://teamsunweb.com/michael-extends/

“I’m really happy to be staying with Team Sunweb for another two years,” said Matthews. “I’ve already had an amazing two and a half years with the team, with lots of great memories. I think this is a good environment for me to develop and I can’t wait to make even more memories with our big family in Team Sunweb.”

 

[Red Rick]

Apparently Dumoulin suffered tendon damage in the crash, and he can't ride his bike for the next weeks.

Vuelta is in doubt and he's not gonna make it in good shape.

Thanks Pucchio

 

[glassmoon]

Re:

Apparently Dumoulin suffered tendon damage in the crash, and he can't ride his bike for the next weeks.

Vuelta is in doubt and he's not gonna make it in good shape.

Thanks Pucchio

jeez, i mean wtf? are there only *** amateurs around him or what? no wonder he wants to leave...

 

[Cinemaniak]

"Hi Jumbo"

 

[hfer07]

Re:

Apparently Dumoulin suffered tendon damage in the crash, and he can't ride his bike for the next weeks.

Vuelta is in doubt and he's not gonna make it in good shape.

Thanks Pucchio

That injury is going from bad to worse

WTF is going on with Sunweb Team's management? how on Earth they can allow that to slide? Not enough sources to do a thorough diagnosis on Tom's Knee? The worst thing that can ever happen to a rider is to have injury not property treated or partially healed. If this goes on - he'd be lucky to ride Lombardy

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Re: Re:

That injury is going from bad to worse

Don't worry, it's just a metal splinter. There is no reason why he wouldn't be ready for the Tour!

They just forgot to mention they were talking about TDF 2020!!

 

[Lequack]

Tom Dumoulin nears Sunweb exit as Jumbo-Visma wait in the wings
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/tom-dumoulin-nears-sunweb-exit-as-jumbo-visma-wait-in-the-wings/

 

[staubsauger]

Well, they've earned his decision with their recent incompetence. That's for sure!

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Latest update: Management Dumoulin is still in talks with Sunweb, no agreement yet, both parties have decided not to talk about anything to the press about this.
Jumbo are rumoured to up their budget to 20€ million to support getting Dumoulin.

More and more it actually looks serious instead of just a rumor.

 

[Bolder]

Re:

Latest update: Management Dumoulin is still in talks with Sunweb, no agreement yet, both parties have decided not to talk about anything to the press about this.
Jumbo are rumoured to up their budget to 20€ million to support getting Dumoulin.

More and more it actually looks serious instead of just a rumor.

Roglic thread reports verbal agreement with J-L through 2023. That would be interesting, I think. Having 3 legitimate podium contenders (yes, I'm including Kruijswijk...) is ... Movistar level ... (Not that I'm comparing J-L to Movistar, just that it could get tricky in allocating leadership. But Dumoulin is a generational talent so if they can scrape together the cash they should do it.

 

[tobydawq]

J-L?

 

[movingtarget]

Re:

Latest update: Management Dumoulin is still in talks with Sunweb, no agreement yet, both parties have decided not to talk about anything to the press about this.
Jumbo are rumoured to up their budget to 20€ million to support getting Dumoulin.

More and more it actually looks serious instead of just a rumor.

I doubt it's a rumour. Dumoulin doesn't seem to be happy with Sunweb lately but Jumbo also had plenty of issues during the Giro. I'd hate to see him go to Ineos.